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Dumas MISS UNLIMITED KIT #1305
This is the third dumas model i have bought and working on. For some reason i like this Hydroplane the old style types,. I had heard this was not a very good kit, alot of work to get it finish, and they were right. the instructions, are just about useless, parts are all ( one good point) over sizes. but that said, it is hard to figure out what and where the pieces go and fit. Driving me crazy trying to make a nice working model, but not sure where and how parts go/ lint up, or the intended of the drawing is suppose to be. Dumas email me back, just said it is an old model and will not be made any longer. thanks.
Not sure about the motor. looking at 600 - 800 brush type motors. that is what i have experience with as of now,. Not sure how brushless motors are rated. yes i have read the how and what the numbers mean, but i'm not sure how i can convert that to a 600 type motor.. any help would be of great h... i'm not going to race this, no clubs around here. I just want it to go up on plane, not 60 MPH. I'm thinking that a 600 type will do the job, also have batteries and a ESC for brush type. but i have been looking into burshless and trying to get educated on what all the numbers mean...
that are no charts to convert over so i'm asking if anyone have a good working knowledge on how you pick out an burshless motor... thank you.
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DUMAS 1930 Chris-Craft Mahogany Runabout, KIT No. 1230
DUMAS 1930 Chris-Craft
Mahogany Runabout,
KIT No. 1230
started May 2001 birthday.
finished sept 2018 Yes a long time..even after i retired it took 5 years to get her out and start working on her... i was busy
took a break for 16 years.
Motor is a Dumas 6 volt, $25. I wanted something that
would look like the real boat, which i saw on Lake George, upstate NY, it didn't go to fast, the original boats had a 6 cylinder eng. so they didn't real go to fast and being 24 feet long and a 6cly eng, she was not got to fast. not like the later models.
so she rides nice, moves the battery around some, looks like the right speed to me. and no leaks... use enough z-poxy that it much weigh in at 10 lb or so
MY biggest problem with it, was the finishing of the sides. not making the side look nice by sanding but finishing them off.
I used what dumas had suggested , Z poly resin that everyone used... will it didn't work for me.. i tried all kinds of thing of things to get a nice finish.. sanding and recoating and recoating .Call the manufacture, they said to call the Rep, for the area. he sent me some new ZAP Z-poxy
still no lucky. got to a point i was going to send him the boat.. all most did...
then I can across some spray outside urethane paint water proof
worked like a charm... now i cover everything with it...
My grandson 9 like running it with me when he comes down. he is better then me i think at controlling her
got an offer to sell her for $600 but i'm not sure if i want too..
not yet...
got a Dumas Chris-Craft 1950 commander express all most finish.
and again, i'm not good with the paint, just can not get a smooth surface. but that another story
BE SAFE OUT THERE.. us'all
samc.
samc
4 years ago
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(Pleasure Craft) 4 C's
just finished the 1930 CC runabout, bought 18 years ago, bought this dumas model cause i thought the instructions would be similar, which they are not. wrong Numbers for parts, wrong instructions, or non for a piece. i guess they want you to buy there DVD for $20. also building the hull the wood split, and did all kinds of things. had to come up with my own way to cover the hull. (Motor: still thinking about it.) (ESC: HobbyWing for two motors) (7/10)
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6 years ago
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(Pleasure Craft) 4 C'S ? NOT finished
It has been a pain to try to finish the sides. have tried all kinds for zpoxys and resins. just stopped the pain, by spraying with a can for clean gloss urethane. looks good not great but i'm sick for sanding and getting no better results then before. 10 years in the making (Motor: dumas 540?) (ESC: hobbywing) (8/10)
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(Pleasure Craft) RETO
dumas commander wood is not the right type, having to change alot of things in the build, the instruction are not very clear at allllll. not like the other dumas boats. up to the hull finishing, have to bondo the hull cause of all the differences from one side to another, a pain
and then have to fiberglass it, this is my first fiberglassing should be fun, if anything like my other boat, it is going to be a long process, takes the fun out of building the boat. (Motor: ???) (ESC: HOBBYYWING) (5/10)
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(Pleasure Craft) 4 C'S
dumas 1930 runabout kit. took 10 years to built, trying to finish the hull in zpoxy, didn't work, so going to something else, a real pain,,, (Motor: dumas 6 volt) (ESC: hobbywind) (8/10)
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๐ฌ Re: 1930 Chris craft runabout
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I tried a number of products, with a lot of sanding in between the coats. found out the 2 part stuff doesn't like me. I thinned it with what i read and saw on the internet. Wrong and the weather effected the finished, to much Humify.
I ended up using Minwax for outside, 2-3 coats. Looks great, I think.
All I read was you had to use the 2 parts stuff, or you would not get a good finish.
Its been 2-3 years now and still looks great...
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๐ฌ Re: 1930 chris craft runabout waterline
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Dave that is what I did, put all the stuff in the model,engine,battery anything else, I put tape along where I thought it might be, put in in a tub with water and
See how she floats ,mark the tape, and that is the real water line. Mine came out nice, with this method
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๐ฌ Re: Chris Craft Catalina
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Hello
I'm making a CC Commander, looks similar wonder how you made the blinds.. looks great. like to add them to my boat, any special way to do it... thank samc
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OK so what do you use to get such a nice finish????, I'm about to start on the top of the dumas Miss unlimited top section, which is mahogany. i have had trouble before with my 1930 speed boat... tried the clear epoxy. and things just would never be a smooth finish.
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๐ Dumas MISS UNLIMITED KIT #1305
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This is the third dumas model i have bought and working on. For some reason i like this Hydroplane the old style types,. I had heard this was not a very good kit, alot of work to get it finish, and they were right. the instructions, are just about useless, parts are all ( one good point) over sizes. but that said, it is hard to figure out what and where the pieces go and fit. Driving me crazy trying to make a nice working model, but not sure where and how parts go/ lint up, or the intended of the drawing is suppose to be. Dumas email me back, just said it is an old model and will not be made any longer. thanks.
Not sure about the motor. looking at 600 - 800 brush type motors. that is what i have experience with as of now,. Not sure how brushless motors are rated. yes i have read the how and what the numbers mean, but i'm not sure how i can convert that to a 600 type motor.. any help would be of great h... i'm not going to race this, no clubs around here. I just want it to go up on plane, not 60 MPH. I'm thinking that a 600 type will do the job, also have batteries and a ESC for brush type. but i have been looking into burshless and trying to get educated on what all the numbers mean...
that are no charts to convert over so i'm asking if anyone have a good working knowledge on how you pick out an burshless motor... thank you.โก
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๐ old wood model can the thing be saved?
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Hi
and thanks to you"al again, for your ideas... was thinking of the epoxy or urethane. i could dip the parts in the urethane and then let them drip, then dry.
I have tried my hand at some cutting new parts from the prints. I'm not to good at it. i don't have a electric scroll saw, do try with a jig saw i made a jig for it, and use that as a scroll saw (kind of). worked ok but not sure how accurate i'm with making the parts. I guess if i work at it then i will become better.. but for right now time is tight. I have to many hobbies things to do. and home projects ( painting).
also just got a dumas Miss Unlimited, a b-day present, to myself.
If you want to talk about bad plans,, or lack of them this is one, there are not number or letters for half the parts, no part list, no reference to parts on the instructions. Now i know this is an old model. and i thought it would have been updated a little, i could update it even. why didn't dumas do that... ??/
ok back to building boats... โก
the pic is of a elco but my father had 1929 richerson, and that is what i would like to build,, someday. i guess i have to get my sawing skill up to par and do a scratch build.
that is what i would like to do... someday..
stay safe out there, in the UK
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๐ old wood model can the thing be saved?
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OK no linseed oil, go it, thanks you'all, did not think of the glue would affect it.
thank you guys to stopping me from doing the wrong thing
that is why i did this post,
great help
there is not anything else that might help the old wood is there..???
you i do have the drawing/ prints. in full scale
someone sent them to me. which was a great help.
so i should do the same...
will send them to the plans site,
pic are of old plans,, see they are not in good shape and the plans someone sent me. what a great help they are.
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๐ old wood model can the thing be saved?
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Vintage Marine Models 1948 Elco 35 Cruisette Model Boat 1110 Elco
Hi was looking to see if anyone has had this problem and a fit for it..
got an old Vintage Marine Models 1948 Elco 35 Cruisette Model Boat 1110 Elco
most of the kit is there, but a lot of the wood pieces are plywood. not sure where this was stored, but some of the plywood, with a Mahogany wood/ veneer covering, on the frame bulkheads, and other places
are coming off.
I like the model so has any one out there, every had this problem and is there a fit..
was think of giving a quick soak in linseed oil to see if it will bring back some of the flexibility in the wood..
the keel is 25 inches long and has a brown tint to it.
with a little bend in it..
any help would be appreciated,
or should i just forget about it,
want not thinking of making the whole thing over
but a few pieces i think i can do...
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be safe out there..
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๐ DUMAS 1930 Chris-Craft Mahogany Runabout, KIT No. 1230
4 years ago by
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DUMAS 1930 Chris-Craft
Mahogany Runabout,
KIT No. 1230
started May 2001 birthday.
finished sept 2018 Yes a long time..even after i retired it took 5 years to get her out and start working on her... i was busy
took a break for 16 years.
Motor is a Dumas 6 volt, $25. I wanted something that
would look like the real boat, which i saw on Lake George, upstate NY, it didn't go to fast, the original boats had a 6 cylinder eng. so they didn't real go to fast and being 24 feet long and a 6cly eng, she was not got to fast. not like the later models.
so she rides nice, moves the battery around some, looks like the right speed to me. and no leaks... use enough z-poxy that it much weigh in at 10 lb or so
MY biggest problem with it, was the finishing of the sides. not making the side look nice by sanding but finishing them off.
I used what dumas had suggested , Z poly resin that everyone used... will it didn't work for me.. i tried all kinds of thing of things to get a nice finish.. sanding and recoating and recoating .Call the manufacture, they said to call the Rep, for the area. he sent me some new ZAP Z-poxy
still no lucky. got to a point i was going to send him the boat.. all most did...
then I can across some spray outside urethane paint water proof
worked like a charm... now i cover everything with it...
My grandson 9 like running it with me when he comes down. he is better then me i think at controlling her
got an offer to sell her for $600 but i'm not sure if i want too..
not yet...
got a Dumas Chris-Craft 1950 commander express all most finish.
and again, i'm not good with the paint, just can not get a smooth surface. but that another story
BE SAFE OUT THERE.. us'all
samc.
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๐ problems cutting 1/8 bulkheads
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๐Thanks for replying, I have been thinking of buy one. Between my model trains, building builds from scratch and know boats.. it might be my next b-day gift to my self. since no one else has any idea on what to by me.
good to know about the saw blades, didn't know that one.
will add the other boat to the harbour. start tonight.
thank you guys for an answer.
I thought it was going to be that answer or answers..
oh yes and its
Wilmington,,, NC...
it is a nice place... real nice.. was just out side NYC and i'm so glad we moved, retired, 10 years ago... it is so nice down here, its not what you would think, its not the deep south,, more of a beach and college town..
thank you again.
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๐ problems cutting 1/8 bulkheads
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Thank you
I thought that was going to be the answer.. i guess there is no real simple why,
i guess if your going to build a scratch build boat you should be a electric scroll saw, any ideas on which one
it good ???
thank you for answer
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๐ problems cutting 1/8 bulkheads
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Hello
last night i looked over my model 1948 Elco 35 Cruisette Model Boat from Marine Model (old)
i bought a while ago, and i know it was going to be missing some parts. so i started to inventor the parts and need to make several bulkheads and others. Ok so i started to cut a N02 bulkhead from the forms / cut out that can with it.. it just seemed like a pain how is was doing it... traced the form onto a piece of 1/8 ply wood and started with hobby knife cutting. too a lot longer
So the question is is there an easier way ??
this is my third wood boat build so i have a little skill
i do not have a electric scroll saw , is that the answer, i should get one or is there a better method. have been playing with the thought of a scratch build of a cabin cruiser. now i'm wondering is i have the skills and patients
any help will help me
Rom seems to know a lot, but i'm not sure how to message him
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๐ฌ Re: Done!! At least the pretty bits
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Graupner SXM multifunction switch
just looked it up and a place in the BElgium
and ebay
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๐ฌ Re: Chris Craft Constellation
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hi I'm building a dumas commander which is similar to the constellation. i found at the mariner museum they have a lot of chris craft blue prints. you could look there for prints and ideas on a built, it helped me on my build. I have add a interior and some mod to the kit.
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๐ฌ Re: (Pleasure Craft) 4 C'S ? NOT finished
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๐ futaba radio and receivers
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Thank you for the information
should have looked up this, but was not sure how..
now i know...
thanks for asking a dumb question... i have plenty of them...
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๐ futaba radio and receivers
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hi my first time asking question to you guys....
have been reading different forum and not sure if i should just ask this question on one of them or start a forum, so i will not bother anyone unnecessary
question futaba radio and receivers
3PM-X FASST 2.4GHz d 3-Channel 2.4GHz Computer Radio, came with a futaba 203GF Receiver.
has anyone bought an other receiver not a futaba
and it worked...
looking around to see prices, and there are some less $$$ one but do they work with a futaba RADIO THAT IS FASST... it was not a expense radio set
want to have several receivers in several model boats instead of switching them are.every time i want to run a boat...
has anyone out there ever run into problems or is there a problem with any of the FASST type of radio set...
thank you
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๐ Prop size and speed
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Thanks for the information, will read your blog
i think i found a method to line up the prop shaft with the motor. Getting the right angle.
Measures the motor shaft then prop shaft tube. Got the difference 1.550 in, then measurer the motor dia.
Took the difference and came up with .620, so I put a piece of .625in wood 6-inch-long, on the tube and put a ruler (scale) on top of that. Put the motor in line with the rule and it all linen up, so I got the angle right, and made adjustment to the motor mount, shimmed it till it was right. Then measure that and make a piece to fit. The motor helped with the magnets in side holding on to the ruler.
I have tried several way to get this angle and measuring didnโt work of me, or just a piece of tubing over the shaft,,, just not getting the right angle.
Maybe this will help someone in setting up there motors.
Now Iโm going to finish up the placement of the batteries fuse, power disturbing boards, ESC and wire everything up and see if it WORKโSโฆ
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๐ Prop size and speed
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Ok i have to go back to school college to do the math in chapter 2.... but it looks like a 2 blade prop might be just as well as a 3 bladed one... just a question i wanted to ask to see if anyone got a big difference in speed or battery life...
I'm a scale speed guy also... just want to model to look like the real thing in the water... on 50 MPH that is why i got small eng. Now i hope they will be big enough to power the boat...
now on to mounting the motors..
any suggestion???? so far i have a plywood plate sitting on an angle on the bulk heads.
think i should put them on blocks of wood and match the angle of the shaft. or ????
thank you guys...
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๐ Prop size and speed
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Hi doug and anyone out there....
you mentioned you tried 2 & 3 blade prop
what was your conclusion?? did the boat go faster or did it accelerated faster or is there advantage
2 blades are for speed,? and 3 are for power?
i have a dumas CC commander 36 inch long.
wondering if i should us 3 blade prop. comes with a 2 bladed and going to run twin motors. also should i revers one of the motors, for better control???
thank you samc
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๐ Static Model Boat Club
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YES i would like this model, do you know the cost.
thank you samc
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๐ Static Model Boat Club
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Hello i have been looking and can not find this model
do you know where one is...
are they an old model they do not make anymore?
the midwest products i found didn't even make boats anymore... ๐
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๐ Static Model Boat Club
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Hi ronaldo
wondering is the cabin cruiser a kit and by who? like it a lot, samc
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๐ฌ The bow blocks & outer keel
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hello i'm trying to epoxy finish on my dumas CC commander and having a hard time getting a smooth surface each time try to put on a coat. it comes out wavy and not even. have tried foam and reg brushes, auto body spreader, try a foam roller, better it was even but not smooth
any hints would be helpfully...
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๐ (Pleasure Craft) 4 C's
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๐ (Pleasure Craft) 4 C'S ? NOT finished
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It has been a pain to try to finish the sides. have tried all kinds for zpoxys and resins. just stopped the pain, by spraying with a can for clean gloss urethane. looks good not great but i'm sick for sanding and getting no better results then before. 10 years in the making (Motor: dumas 540?) (ESC: hobbywing) (8/10)
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๐ (Pleasure Craft) RETO
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dumas commander wood is not the right type, having to change alot of things in the build, the instruction are not very clear at allllll. not like the other dumas boats. up to the hull finishing, have to bondo the hull cause of all the differences from one side to another, a pain
and then have to fiberglass it, this is my first fiberglassing should be fun, if anything like my other boat, it is going to be a long process, takes the fun out of building the boat. (Motor: ???) (ESC: HOBBYYWING) (5/10)
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๐ (Pleasure Craft) 4 C'S
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dumas 1930 runabout kit. took 10 years to built, trying to finish the hull in zpoxy, didn't work, so going to something else, a real pain,,, (Motor: dumas 6 volt) (ESC: hobbywind) (8/10)
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