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5 months ago by π¬π§ DuncanP (
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For the final coat of varnish I used to 2000 grade sandpaper. Perhaps it was too fine. I've now sanded it down with 1200 grade paper and recoated the varnish. I've had my electric radiator on as well so the temperature was 20degrees C before starting to varnish - but I will switch off soon otherwise I won't be able to afford the electric bill! How long do you suggest leaving the varnish to harden before applying masking tape? My man cave is normally about 14degrees during the day during these mild days that we are unexpectedly experiencing at the moment. I have a dehumidifier in there keeping it between 60 and 70 humidity. Thanks Duncan. π
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5 months ago by πΊπΈ Len1 (
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for what its worth it seams that the varnish has not adhered well to the substrate and/or has not entirely cured. I would be concerned with the varnish lifting on its own over a period of time
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π¬ Re: DISASTER has struck!!
5 months ago by πΊπΈ LewZ (
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Masking for my models: I use blue masking tape which gives me a good edge. As for those curved surfaces, I lay down a section of masking tape, maybe 12 - 18 inches long keeping it straight. Using a sharp cutting tool and a steel straight edge I cut a strip (or multiple), maybe 1/8 inch wide (depending on the curve) and use that on the model burnish it down good to get a sealed edge. Then you can add wider tape to that.
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π¬ Re: DISASTER has struck!!
5 months ago by π¬π§ Graham93 (
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Hi Duncan,
What a shame, but such is the nature of model building. If you are only having to take four steps backwards, you are not doing too badly. I also like Frog tape. Readily available at the diy sheds in the UK Graham93 ▲
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π¬ Re: DISASTER has struck!!
5 months ago by π¬π§ ChrisG (
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Oh! such a shame, devastating but recoverable. Masking tape can be a nightmare for many reasons I have been using Tamiya for a while, it seems the stickier they are the more trouble they cause.
Everything will be great in the end she is still a model to be proud of and in time it will be funny story to tell. Regards ChrisG ▲
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π¬ Re: DISASTER has struck!!
5 months ago by π¬π§ Colin H (
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Duncan, sorry to hear of your problems, but for the tape to pull Varnish off sounds like your Varnish hadn't bonded with the wood.
I only ever had that happen once on a boat I was restoring and it turned out that the wood still had moisture in it. I had to put it in the airing cupboard for a week before it was fully dry. After it was fully dry I re-sanded and fresh Varnish, masked and repainted below the waterline without any problems. I use Frog tape for complex shapes as it's easy to work round the shape. Cheers Colin. ▲
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π¬ Re: DISASTER has struck!!
5 months ago by πΊπΈ pressonreguardless (
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I have used Frog Tape for delicate surfaces. I apply the tape; paint immediately and immediately remove the tape before the paint dries.
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π¬ Re: Varnishing complete!
5 months ago by π¦πΊ stevedownunder (
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Beautiful work Duncan,
I would agree with JBs recommendation. Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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5 months ago by πΊπΈ pressonreguardless (
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Great resolution, JBππ
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π¬ Re: Varnishing complete!
5 months ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Terrific job, dash is looking great. For the fittings, if at all possible, drill a 1mm hole for a pin in the bottoms, making the pins a tight fit and cyanoing (tiny dab of gel not liquid) them in, then drill holes in the deck for the pins and glue them in with a slower setting glue. If you glue the fittings onto the varnish and you knock them, you are liable to rip a patch or layer of varnish off with them, as the joint is only as strong as the top coat of varnish. Don't use cyano on the varnish as it might bloom and ruin the surface.
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π¬ Re: Varnishing complete!
5 months ago by πΊπΈ pressonreguardless (
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Dash looks great Duncan.
for mounting hardware to the deck you could try double sided mounting tape available on amazon. Do a trial run first on scrap to test. Trev ▲
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π¬ Re: Varnishing complete!
5 months ago by πΊπΈ DWBrinkman (
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What a gorgeous boat! Superb workmanship, the varnish finish is superb.
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π¬ Re: Varnishing complete!
5 months ago by π¬π§ ChrisG (
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Absolutely amazing varnish work, difficult to find better and I think the white bottom will enhance the varnish work and not detract from it, my opinion only I hasten to add.
The detail you are building into the dash is quite something, an all round beautiful model to be very proud of. Regards ChrisG ▲
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π¬ Re: Deck Planking
5 months ago by π¬π§ Colin H (
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That's a fantastic finish, do you really need to paint the bottom?
I've seen a few real ones that were not painted, and they looked fantastic. As for the fittings, I prefer to pin or screw if possible, if you must glue Varnish a scrap of wood and check it doesn't react with the glue before using on your model. Cheers Colin. ▲
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6 months ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Great job, looks really smartππ
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π¬ Re: Deck Planking
6 months ago by π¬π§ ChrisG (
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Lovely decking and yes to get it looking as good as you have does take lots of time, this is ok if you have other parts of the build to be carrying on with but frustrating if you have to keep walking away.
My goodness me though very much worth it in the end. Regards ChrisG ▲
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π¬ Re: Deck Planking
6 months ago by π¬π§ Norway (
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It's looking good. All your hard work is paying off.
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π¬ Re: Deck Planking
6 months ago by πΊπΈ pressonreguardless (
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Looks Great, Duncan
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π¬ Re: Almost ready for final mahogany planking
6 months ago by π¬π§ RonB (
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10 months ago by π¬π§ BOATSHED (
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Many thanks for putting this on here. I wil get on there and have a search for them on Amazon.I will be using them on my radio controlled model cars as well as my boats. The finish looks amazing. Thanks again.ππ
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π¬ Re: Almost ready for final mahogany planking
10 months ago by π¬π§ DuncanP (
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Hiya. I got the chrome pen off Amazon. It is a Molotow liquid chrome pump marker pen. I was amazed with the finish it gives. I've even used it to touch up a mark on the chrome of my car. There are different thickness of markers starting at 1mm and going up to 5mm. I used the 2mm one which was Β£5.82. Hope this helps. Cheers Duncan π
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π¬ Re: Almost ready for final mahogany planking
10 months ago by π©πͺ RNinMunich (
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Hi Boatshed,
You can find them on Amazon, just ordered mine from Amazon.de. Or go straight to the manufacturer- MOLOTOWβ’β¨ Feuerstein GmbHβ¨ Willy-Brandt-Str. 9/2β¨ 77933 Lahr / Schwarzwald Germany In very pretty landscape in Southwest Germany, worth a tripπ ▲
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π¬ Re: Almost ready for final mahogany planking
10 months ago by π¬π§ BOATSHED (
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Hi DuncanP, I am very curious to know where did you get the chrome pen from please. It looks realy good. I have used a chrome spray on a couple of things when I was working on things underneath my motohome when rebuilding the rear suspension and I wasn't too inpressed. But for on modeling that looks great.
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π¬ Re: Almost ready for final mahogany planking
10 months ago by π¬π§ ChrisG (
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Love the model and am looking forward to seeing her in the water, well done with the build.
First time I have heard about the chrome pen, I will certainly be trying that. Regards ChrisG ▲
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π¬ Re: Paper clips helpful when planking
11 months ago by π¬π§ DuncanP (
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Thank you for your comment (mturpin013)π. I then had a look at your RAF crash tender. It looks absolutely amazing! Is it the 34" or 46" version. I have the 34" model which I made in my 20's and then refurbished it during lockdown having spent about 50 years in the loft and garage. It is unfortunately not up to your standard! I found yours very intriguing especially the wheelhouse. Mine was built from the original Aerokits kit. Have you done a blog on the build of the boat? Thanks Duncan.
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π¬ Re: Paper clips helpful when planking
11 months ago by π¬π§ mturpin013 (
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Great tip on βtight boardsβ paper clip is so simple, most good solutions are simple
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π¬ Re: Overcoming difficulty of fitting rudders and linkages
11 months ago by π¬π§ ChrisG (
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The hull of your model shown bow on is very impressive, beautiful lines.
I can see that you are having real fun and games trying to shoehorn the steering gear under the stern deck, I don`t think there is an easy answer, on my current project I have abandoned all thoughts of a working model mainly due to space constraints and if good enough it will spend the rest of its days on a coffee table if the boss allows. That of course is not what you want to hear π€ I am looking forward to following your build, when finished it will be worth all of the problems. Regards ChrisG ▲
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π¬ Re: 1st coat of varnish
12 months ago by π¬π§ DuncanP (
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It is the 1st time I have tried building a planked model. I think the main thing is taking your time. I spent quite a lot of time cutting and then sanding the end of the planks to get a really good fit. I started build in April 2021!! Having said that I probably only fitted no more than 4 planks per day to give the glue time to set hard.
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12 months ago by πΊπΈ DWBrinkman (
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Very nice work! I only hope to someday get close to that kind of modeling skill!
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π¬ Re: 1st coat of varnish
12 months ago by π¬π§ dave976 (
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Looking good. Nice neat planking enhanced by the excellent paint finish.
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π¬ Re: 1st coat of varnish
12 months ago by π¬π§ ChrisG (
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She looks great, fabulous gloss already. The invention of water based paints has caused the likes of most of us a real `faff` it was great in the day when we did not have to worry about one paint reacting badly with another. They should have restricted water based to emulsion, sorry in my opinionπ π .
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π¬ Re: Amati Italian Runabout (Riva Aquarama) for use on water
12 months ago by π¬π§ DuncanP (
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Thanks Trev. In that case I'll probably just epoxy the inside of the hull which is still bare wood. I just want to make sure it is water tight so that I don't get any water damage ! π
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12 months ago by πΊπΈ pressonreguardless (
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I don't think the Epoxy is necessary at this point. If it is used it should be applied on raw wood.
Also use the correct hardener to achieve a clear finish. Total Boat and West have these hardeners. Good Luck Trev ▲
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π¬ Re: Amati Italian Runabout (Riva Aquarama) for use on water
12 months ago by π¬π§ ChrisG (
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Sounds good and certainly looks good to me, that mahogany and the quality of the planking you have achieved should not be covered in my opinion. I am not sure why you are thinking of epoxy finish as well as two coats of varnish, maybe because I find epoxy a lot more difficult to work with than varnish and if varnishing is carried out well the finish can be fantastic as well as giving adequate protection.
Whatever the model is coming along very well you should be proud. Regards ChrisG ▲
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