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    Gentlemans Cruiser
    by muddy ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ( Midshipman)
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    ๐Ÿ“ Gentlemans Cruiser
    3 years ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Started on the upper-works/cabin. Ring saw came into its own again. Followed up by the small mini drill, similar to a Dremil but with a bigger chuck which is handy, using Dremil 1/2" drum sander to clean up the window inner edges. Used 1.5mm ply for the cabin sides as they are going to be veneered, found a pice of veneer under the bench it nearly had roots, and i think, think, it's Teak. This was all glued up under weight using a PVA glue, probably the one in the pics, but an Alphatic. then when glue well and truly dry, Using a No10 scalpel blade to remove the innards of the window frames, and a quick swish with some fine grade sandpaper, not sure about any window frames as yet. ( to many windows for me ... ! ) Regards Muddy....

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    3 years ago by ianed57 ( Midshipman)
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    Hello, Just found your build log and love this boat. is it a Bassett Lowke design- ie Margaret or Barbera? if not, what is the design? Very nice work!

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    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    OK Ian , Thank you.. It's Margaret. A bit of a tail, but at the time my son in law's mother, Margaret Died. So not wanting to "Stir things up ", i passed it on, a pal of mine was stuck for something to do, but at the same time it was built for a big pond, and then i noticed that she had a "stepped deck", whereas Elizabeth, same hull different upper works was a single level deck. So my attention was diverted to Lizzy, which is awaiting paint at the moment. Thanks again Muddy..
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    2 months ago by ianed57 ( Midshipman)
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    Yes, I only noticed today that I commented on it three years ago.
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    3 years ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Hello, Fitted the combing, the deck , and started the Fore Planking, this time with Mahogany planks (5mm x 1.5mm ) and white wood caulking (0.5mm) mounted vertically. Adding some colour to the motor mounts, and drive chain, makes it easier when final assembly takes place as in electrical wiring. Regards Muddy....

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Gentlemans Cruiser
    3 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Good work ๐Ÿ‘ Seems to be coming on extremely fast! How long has it taken to get this far?? KUTGW Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    3 years ago by John2 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Looking good!

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    3 years ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Hello, The keel was cut on the 13th of May 2017.
    Power tools are the secret, i would not like to be without the Proxxon table saw, and or the B&D jigsaw plus a Battery drill, makes life a lot easier. The longest job so far has been the Deck planking, it's more like anger management..lol...
    Hope this helps, regards Muddy....

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Gentlemans Cruiser
    3 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Not bad, not bad at all! Hats off!! ๐Ÿ‘
    I agree on the table saw, I also have the small band-saw. ideal for the smaller scales I usually work to. Even if bigger originals (mostly naval) work out at 3 to 5 feet as well. Nevertheless; I admire your dedication and speed. Do you ever sleep?๐Ÿ˜‰ Carry on Captain ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    3 years ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Many thanks, but hats off to you Sir.. I could never cope with warship scales, to fine a quality of skill required.. 1/32 nd.. is about my limit.. Now i am envious of a band saw, had one about 45 years ago, sold it, regretted it ever since..

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    3 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Muddy, i agree with you on the details. Sometimes it is necessary to leave out some of the more filigree stuff for practical operating reasons! Or resort to etched or cast parts. But then they also require assembly and finishing!
    On reflection, and nipping down to the cellar to check, it's not a band-saw I have but the King Craft electric fretsaw! Technically called a scroll-saw I just learned from Wiki! Has the advantage of using standard 5" fret-saw blades and you can cut internal shapes, e.g. hollowing out bulkheads, without needing an entry cut from the edge ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Š
    So, back to work now, just had a DHL delivery of the remaining parts for my Sea Scout renovation and update ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š
    Cheers Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    3 years ago by Dave M ( Vice Admiral)
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    Coming along nicely. Just to give you an idea of the finished article I am attaching a pic of a fellow club members gentlemans cruiser. They do look very nostalgic and sail very realistically

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    3 years ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Many Thanks Doug.. and ok about your saw, my hollowing out of bulkheads mainly concerns a ring saw as a typical electricial would have/use and the inverted jigsaw in the work-mate, the ring saw sets the internal radius, usually about 1" blade. Or a 3/8" drill into the bulkhead preferably close to the inner edge, and then using the jig saw, inverted.. I tend to use the metal work blades for the jigsaw, as they are a much thinner profile enabling tight radi to be tackled..Sea scout, now there a nice size boat , a blast from the past..Tnx for the info..Regards Muddy....

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    3 years ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Thanks for the pics Dave M and the info, what a lovely job has been done on the deck planking, now thats a credit to its owner/builder. Do you happen to know what the drive assembly consists of..? Regards Muddy....

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    3 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Mornin' Muddy, I never had any luck with ring saws, I got the impression they were made of rice pudding ๐Ÿค” so I bought a set of proper wood borers, such as are used for the recesses for kitchen cabinet hinges! Nice and sharp and last for years ๐Ÿ˜Š Agree on the metal blades ๐Ÿ‘ Cheers Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    3 years ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Hello Doug, know what you mean about ring saw's, when i was apprentice we had a type of ringsaw that was retained on its former or mandrel by a couple of 6BA screws, it wern't the best idea but they did work but blade life was limited when cutting into Trunking and switchgear even with a cutting paste/oil. But Black and Decker appeared at about this erra with their ring saw and it was a much better idea, but being new they were expensive. Bought this set about 15 years ago from Machine Mart, think they are "eastern" copies and ok on/in wood. Like your setup of the wood bits but i only have a battery drill here not a bench or pillar drill, so dont know if they would be suitable. in my case it was more of how much, and instant availability. Thinking back and i still use this method sometimes is to simply wrap sandpaper, about a 180 grade around a piece of 1/4" dowel or larger to suit the required radius, and it is surprising how quickly the "clean-up/radi" appears ..lol..Cheers Muddy ....

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    3 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Muddy, yep, they look a lot more robust and useful๐Ÿ‘ I only knew the type help together with 2 screws, turned out to be 'use once and chuck away in frustration'๐Ÿ˜ก Must look around the tool shops again ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Cheers Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    2 months ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Hello Doug, i dont appear to be to find the said pics ? perhaps i,m not in the correct place ? Muddy..
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    3 years ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Running gear or furniture.. Once the skeleton or frame was completed it's a good idea to dry fit all the running gear, Drive motors shaft's and prop's, plus the radio gear and battery boxes/trays, and even sound unit locations. Then start the skinning. This hull has very curvy bottom skins, in that they turn from the transom to the bow 90 degrees sharply. Tried some test pieces of vertical grain ply, ( 1.5mm ) but it was the same as horizontal grain.. Skins were placed in as large as pieces as possible at about 45 degrees to the keel, or planking in ply.. Not a pretty sight, but makes life a lot easier. The skins were dry fitted with brass pins first, mainly to assist in the cutting of the skin shape. When the bottom skins were completed and rough trimmed the side skins were applied and these were vertically grained, again makes life a lot easier and they fall onto the stringers, means less brass pins and elastic bands. Not forgetting to drill some 1" holes in the breast-hook and No; 1 former, as i always pour in a little Fibre glass resin to help seal the bow section and add some strength. Regards Muddy....

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    3 years ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Just a note about the Bulkheads, There are 1/4" x 1/4" Stringers and 3/8" x 1/8". After the bulkheads were all marked out, remembering the old rule measure twice and cut once. Picked up a piece of 3/8" x 1/8" Obechie and placed it onto the bulkhead checking the marking out, whoops something was wrong the marked location was to small, wishing to return the next day and start cutting at first light, they were remarked, but when i did four from the Transom, for some unknown reason i decided to measure again.. The air was blue..... I had by accident picked up a piece of scrap of 1/2" x 3/16".. A long pause and "to ponder" what to do next. Scrap the bulkheads and start again or make do and mend, 5mm marine ply aint cheap, in other words apply some modelers license.. Modeler's license won, as it usually does. So the stringers were "Shimmed", maybe not pretty, but it worked and hopefully does not make the structure weak..And now its been skinned, who knows about it..!

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    3 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    We do!! ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‰
    But I would have done the same ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    3 years ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Phewwww... thats a relief, glad i aint on my own.. regards Muddy ....

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    3 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Don't worry ... you'll find a lot of 'Bin there - dun that' here ๐Ÿ˜‰
    main thing is a good workaround - like yours! Cheers Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    3 years ago by muddy ( Midshipman)
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    Hello, after rummaging around the plans bag, and finding the Speranza, which i did start and hope to continue as the infill to this build, sorry Alan... But don't blame me, someone did a post on an old Gentleman's cruiser, and i was hooked, the power of the press hey !.. Away we went, cutting keels, bulkheads, dry fits , fitting stringers, then realizing this is going to be bigger than I though.. Regards Muddy ....

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