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    Just another, Smit Nederland Build!
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    πŸ“ Capstans!
    4 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    The Smit Nederland's Capstans.
    Are painted but I like the way they look in brass!

    The ones next to the main cabin.
    Are to be painted black!
    Along with the one aft!
    Under the chaffing gear!

    But, I think the all the Capstans.
    Being brass would look better!

    Question:
    What do you think?
    Should the capstans be painted?
    Or Shouldn't they?
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    4 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Ed,
    I tend to agree with you, except that they wouldn't look used.
    I think I would just paint the tops black and leave the rest brass,
    as if usage has rubbed the paint offπŸ˜‰
    She's looking really nice Ed πŸ‘
    Roll on FREEDOM!!
    Cheers, Doug 😎
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    4 days ago by MouldBuilder ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    I like the look of brass too Ed. If you don’t need to be correct to prototype, then leave brass. I would.πŸ˜ƒ
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    4 days ago by Martin555 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Ed,
    If you plan on doing a bit of weathering on the Smit you could do what Doug said and splash a little bit of mouldy green and rust.

    Martin555.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    3 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Doug,

    Will do!

    I had thought of painting the tops!

    I've never done weathering before!

    Do you have any recommendations for a weathering kit?

    Cheers, Ed

    Or a how's to? for weathering!
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    3 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks, Will do!
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    3 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Any hints on weathering?
    Would be appreciated!


    Cheers, Ed
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    3 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Ed,
    Some time ago I posted some stuff about Weathering.
    Might have been in Steve's (Cormorant) HMS Campbeltown Blog.
    I admitted then that I hadn't done any serious weathering myself, BUT had bought some Weathering paint kits from Lifecolor, and I posted some You Tube links to 'how to do it' videos.
    Search 'weathering' in the Forum and you should find some info.
    Also, in the Lifecolor catalogue (which I also posted as pdf file, attached here again) there are some excellent descriptions, with photos, of how to use their weathering paints.
    Main thing is: DON'T overdo it! Better too little than too muchπŸ‘
    Cheers, Doug 😎
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    3 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    A few links about weathering.
    Scroll down to about halfway for the Dreadnought weathering.
    http://bpmodels.net/Model/Album/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=664&p...
    Here's an excellent article about weathering from Model Boats mag
    http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/mucking-up/586
    How to vids-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNcUJ0BACO4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iekseD0IrfA
    What works on tanks works on boats too!
    Happy 'Mucking about' πŸ˜‰
    Cheers, Doug 😎
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    3 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Doug,

    Will look into!

    Cheers, Ed
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    3 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Go for it EdπŸ‘
    Got some more 'stuff' somewhere.
    I'll have a rummage around tomorrow.
    G'night, Stay safe🀞
    😎
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    3 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Ed,
    Here you should be able to find a Lifecolor paints shop in the US of A.
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=lifecolor...

    Check out some of the links to see the range of paint sets available for everything from trains through military vehicles and aircraft, to ships of various navies and merchant marine.
    Also various Detailing sets for Weathering, Dirt and Grime, Wear and Tear etc!
    Some should also have a Hints n Tips section like many European distributors do.
    Here's a typical example of a Lifecolor Paint Sets listing on a Dutch site, including several Detailing / Weathering setsπŸ˜‰
    https://www.military-modelling.com/c-3358365/lifecolor-paint...
    Happy huntingπŸ‘ (Don't forget to take your blunderbuss!😁)
    Cheers, Doug 😎
    BTW Lifecolor paints are water based acrylic ---> NO PONG😊
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=lifecolor+usa&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiqhOrOh8zoAhVVoXEKHXGlBrUQ1QIoAHoECAsQAQ&biw=1920&bih=955
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    3 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Ed,
    Here are some links specifically for the Lifecolor weathering sets.
    With some U-toob How to vid links.
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=lifecolor...
    That lot should keep you off the streets for a while😁
    Ciao, Doug 😎
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=lifecolor+weathering+sets&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwir1dmdi8zoAhVVoVwKHQxTDywQ1QIoAnoECAsQAw&biw=1920&bih=955
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    3 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    .... and finally πŸ™„
    Here's a link to the manufacturers site, showing a list of 15 How to downloads.
    On the left of the page are the links to various paint sets.
    https://www.astromodelstore.com/download.html?limit=20
    Click Brand, then LIFECOLOR and you get-->πŸ˜‰
    https://www.astromodelstore.com/brand/lifecolor
    As you can see they are in Italy, so I guess they are not producing very much at the moment.
    DAMN BUGS❄️❄️❄️!! 😠
    Happy browsingπŸ‘
    Ciao, 😎
    https://www.astromodelstore.com/download.html?limit=20
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Capstans!
    2 days ago by Cashrc ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Ed, she’s your boat, both the owner and skipper. Like Mouldmaker said, unless you’re going for and exact duplicate of the prototype, then paint em any way you want them. Dougs idea about having the paint look liked it was rubbed off is good however. Thing is, if you’re like me you weather one thing, then you have to make the rest of the boat look weathered as well. I think she looks fine now, you could always make her look β€œjust launched new”, run her a while, then go back and do some weathering.
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    πŸ“ A bit of Painting!
    4 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    OK, with Corona creating havoc!
    The wife and I have stayed home!

    So, I've been painting the Smit Nederland!
    But, Still taking my time with the build!

    I still have the Funnels and the Main Mast to assemble!

    And I'm going to take my time with her rails.
    As they have a lot of bends and turns!

    There's a few areas on the main deck.
    That have to be completed.

    Also the tow winch has to be assembled!
    See I purchased a miniature geared motor.
    Which I'm going to use to motorize the tow winch!

    But, one step at a time!
    Slowly, slowly I'll build the Smit!
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    πŸ’¬ Re: A bit of Painting!
    4 days ago by Martin555 ( Vice Admiral)
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    She is looking extremely good Ed.
    Well done.
    Taking it slowly is really paying off.
    Keep up the good work.

    Martin555.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: A bit of Painting!
    4 days ago by Joe727 ( Midshipman)
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    Really like the paint work, nice colors. Did you choose the colors or were they a kit recommendation?
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    πŸ’¬ Re: A bit of Painting!
    4 days ago by MouldBuilder ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    She looks really good Ed.
    Looking forward to seeing her on the water.πŸ‘
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    πŸ’¬ Re: A bit of Painting!
    4 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Joe,

    I had ordered paints by Billing Boats.
    But, they had a strong odor!
    So, sent them back to Billings!

    So, what I did was find the equivalents.
    To the paints that are recommended!

    But, the hull was my idea!
    Bottom of the hull is Red Oxide Primer # BT51
    And the Black is # BT43

    The Superstructure is
    Krylon Fusion All-In-One Matte White!
    Also ordered online!

    The Green and Yellow was also ordered online!
    From Humbrol US I ordered them online!

    The white stripe you see going around.
    The Bulwark is automotive pin striping tape!
    I have purchased some years ago!
    It turns out the striping was.
    Just the right size for the Job!

    Ed
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    πŸ’¬ Re: A bit of Painting!
    4 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Martin,

    Thanks, for the complement!
    Slowly, slowly she'll get built!

    Cheers, Ed
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    πŸ’¬ Re: A bit of Painting!
    4 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Mouldbuilder,

    Thanks, I'm just taking my time!
    I also can't wait to have her built.
    And on the water!

    She won't be finished any time soon.
    But, I do have my Tug Brooklyn.
    To take to the pond!

    Oh, Wait we can't go to the pond!
    Carona won't let us enjoy our hobby!

    Well, Let me get back to building!

    Cheers, Ed
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    πŸ’¬ Re: A bit of Painting!
    4 days ago by Joe727 ( Midshipman)
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    Ed,
    Thanks for detailed response on the paint, great information. White stripe looks good, I've found that the auto pinstripping works well too.
    Joe
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    πŸ’¬ Re: A bit of Painting!
    4 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nice one Ed!
    Steady as you go Admiral πŸ‘

    Hope you and Jenny are keeping well🀞
    Especially as you are not so far from the New York 'Hotspot'!
    Stay safe and tell the bugs to 'Bug Off'!!πŸ˜‰
    All the best, Doug😎
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    πŸ“ Bulwark!
    18 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Today, I'm painting the bulwark!
    It takes about three coats.
    Of paint to cover the Bulwark!

    Not sure why but, I started on her Starboard side!

    So, far so good!
    The three coats are just right!
    Next will be her Port side!
    Then her bow then stern!
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Bulwark!
    18 days ago by Martin555 ( Vice Admiral)
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    If you mis a bit Ed you can always add a bit of rusting to hide it LOL!

    Martin555.
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    πŸ“ Final Supplies! OK, almost Final Supplies!
    19 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    The Smit is just a big money pit!

    I finally ordered the rest of the supplies.
    I needed to complete the Smit Nederland Build!

    And I still need miniature wire.
    Which I'll use on her mast!

    But, I'll probably need something else!

    OK, supplies received are:

    Two 12 volt smokers and fuse connectors!
    And various other connectors as well!

    Also Miniature LED's in various colors!

    PS. when you only have one source.
    For smokers be prepared to pay handsomely for them!

    My smokers cost me $105.oo!
    And I needed two..........

    My total was $270.oo


    NO, the wife never saw the Bill!!!!πŸ˜‚πŸ€£
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Final Supplies! OK, almost Final Supplies!
    15 days ago by mturpin013 ( Commander)
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    Which supplier do the smokers come from?
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Final Supplies! OK, almost Final Supplies!
    14 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Michael,

    I sourced my smokers from:

    Harbor Models in California, USA!

    https://www.harbormodels.com/smokegenerator.html

    But as the smokers come with smoke liquid.
    They can't be exported to England!

    But, they are very good smokers!
    I have their medium smokers and their small smokers!

    I haven't tested the small smokers yet.
    But, I'm sure they'll work great!

    My Smit Nederland build will have independant throttling!
    And each motor will have a smoker connected!
    There being two motors in total!

    But, I must admit they are pricey.
    But, Well worth the price!

    Oh, here in the US!
    I've only been able to find one source for smokers!

    Cheers, Ed
    https://www.harbormodels.com/smokegenerator.html
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    πŸ“ Float Test!
    19 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Today I did the old float test!
    In the tub of course!

    It took about 7 lbs of weight.
    To bring the Smit to her Waterline!

    I left her in the water for a few hours!
    And not a drop of water in the bilge!
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Float Test!
    19 days ago by Cashrc ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Almost there Ed, you’ll be in the water before you know it. Really looking forward to seeing her underway with the smoker going.
    Cash
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Float Test!
    19 days ago by Martin555 ( Vice Admiral)
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    That is good news Ed.
    By the time you install the other bits and pieces and batteries you might not have to add to much ballast.

    Martin555.
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    πŸ“ Hull completed!
    22 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Slow progress, but the top of the hull is now painted!
    The main cabin is all painted! You can't tell from the last picture.
    But the main cabin is painted white now!
    I also used pin stripping around the Bulwark!
    To simulate the white stripe that goes around the Bulwark!
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Hull completed!
    22 days ago by Martin555 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Good work Ed,
    She is coming along nicely, She will make an excellent addition to your fleet.
    Keep up the good work.

    Martin555.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Hull completed!
    22 days ago by MouldBuilder ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Looking good Ed.πŸ‘
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Hull completed!
    21 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Martin,

    Thanks, slowly I build!
    She'll get there though!

    Cheers, Ed
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Hull completed!
    21 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Mouldbuilder,

    Thanks, she's coming along nicely!

    Cheers, Ed
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Hull completed!
    21 days ago by Rookysailor ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Getting there Ed, it will soon be with the Big Boys, your American Tugs...😐

    Cheers, Pete
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Hull completed!
    20 days ago by Cashrc ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    She’s looking really good! Good job Ed, can’t wait for the maiden. I think you’re gonna like her.
    Cash
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Hull completed!
    20 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Looking goodπŸ‘
    Stereo maiden together with Brooklyn Ed?
    Now some crew?
    Cheers, Doug 😎
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Hull completed!
    19 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Doug,

    I think I'll have the Maiden of the Brooklyn first!
    Smit Nederland won't be ready for a while!

    Cheers, Ed

    PS. Crew members have to be ordered soon!
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    πŸ“ Rudder Linkage!
    27 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Does anyone know where I can source?
    Rudder Linkage as the Smit Nederland.
    Doesn't come with any!

    The rudder linkage has to be 4 mm bore?
    With set screws preferably!

    I also have to connect two rudders as well!

    Anyone know???
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Rudder Linkage!
    27 days ago by Ron ( Lieutenant)
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    ED,

    Could you post a photo of the plans for this linkage requirement?
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Rudder Linkage!
    27 days ago by Martin555 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Ed,
    I don't know if this link will work.
    Copy and past it in to ebay.

    I think you will need parts #1 and #3.
    You will also have to open up the hole to 4mm.


    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rudder-Steering-Nylon-Rocker-Arm-...


    Martin555.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rudder-Steering-Nylon-Rocker-Arm-3mm-Hole-Servo-Horn-RC-Boat-Fixed-Wing/183790754730?hash=item2acac85baa:m:mGCN9P_0m74ctF_uIHess-g
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Rudder Linkage!
    26 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi all,

    Thanks for the hints and questions!

    I have ordered rudder linkage from.
    Cornwall Model Boats and some linkage from China!
    Linkage to be used to connect.
    The port and starboard rudders!

    Cheers, Ed
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    πŸ“ Waterline in Place!
    27 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hull painted waterline in place!

    I tried brush painting the hull.
    But, Just couldn't work with the paints!

    So, Spraying was the best solution!
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    πŸ“ Top of the Hull!
    27 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    It's quite windy here where I live!
    But, today I was able to spray the top of the hull!

    A few days ago.
    I tried to use Tamiya flat black paint.
    But, I had the same problem as I did with the Humbrol flat black paint!

    No matter how many coats I put.
    The paint just didn't look right!

    Anyway I decided to spray today as the winds.
    Were a bit still!

    So, having sprayed the top of the hull.
    Now it looks very nice!
    A good even coat!

    Tonite, I'll spray the main cabin!
    I hope the wind stay down!
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Top of the Hull!
    27 days ago by Martin555 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Ed,
    Did you try using a paint brush instead of a wire brush LOL!!! (sorry bad joke)
    I am glad you finally got the results you wanted.
    It is annoying when things don't go according to plan.

    Martin555.
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    27 days ago by cormorant ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi Ed.
    I always use Lifecolor paints with a brush. Always get a lovely smooth finish.
    http://thinkhobbies.com/61-lifecolor-acrylic-paints/&selecte...

    Steve
    http://thinkhobbies.com/61-lifecolor-acrylic-paints/&selected_filters=&selected_filters=&
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    27 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Steve,

    Thanks so much!
    I have made a note of the website!

    I may order some paints from them in the future!

    Cheers, Ed
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    27 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "I always use Lifecolor paints ..."
    Now I wonder who might have put you onto those Steve? πŸ‘πŸ˜‰
    https://model-boats.com/forum/45253#46543
    😎
    https://model-boats.com/forum/45253#46543
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    27 days ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Martin,

    I minus well have been using a wire brush!
    No matter what I did!
    It just didn't look right!

    Spraying was the only choice!
    To correct this little problem!

    Looks just right!
    Just what I wanted!!!!

    Cheers, Ed
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    πŸ“ Smit Nederland Slow Progress!
    1 month ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    I was going to paint the top of the hull.
    But, I have decided not to spray the top!
    Instead I've ordered Tamiya Flat Black!
    And I'm going to brush on the paint!

    As the weather has turned for the worst!

    I've used Tamiya paints before.
    And they give a good finish!

    I'm just hoping the paint doesn't have any brush strokes!
    If so going to have to wait.
    And give it a spray!!!
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    1 month ago by Martin555 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Good luck Ed.
    I have found that if you paint quickly and avoid going over the same area to many times it should be ok.

    Martin555.
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    1 month ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Martin,

    I found that the first paint.
    I was using tended to pull!
    And dried to quickly as I painted!
    And left brush strokes!

    This is why I ordered the Tamiya Flat Black!
    I've used it! It's better to use!
    And doesn't leave brush strokes!

    Cheers, Ed
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    1 month ago by MouldBuilder ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Looks great Ed.
    I have no comment on painting. I am rubbish at it.😁
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    1 month ago by Rookysailor ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Brush painting Ed, well here's a few tips that may help.
    First, use the best brush you can afford, sable if possible, 1/2 inch should be OK, then make sure to let the paint down with thinner, it will make it flow better,(so it doesn't show brush marks), and it will go off at a more manageable speed, used to paint all my boats/planes before the airbrush, and was very happy with the results using the techniques above. I'm sure, looking at your workmanship Ed, you will not have any problems.πŸ‘

    Cheers, Pete
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    1 month ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Pete,

    Thanks, for the advice!
    I must look into buying a new brush!
    But, I think my brush may do!

    May have to do some trial runs.
    On some scrap piece of wood!

    Cheers, Ed
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    1 month ago by figtree7nts ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Mouldbuilder,

    You may say you are rubbish at painting!
    Not from what I see of your past builds!
    They look great to me!

    Hope my painting come out.
    As good looking as your builds!

    Cheers, Ed
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    1 month ago by Cashrc ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    She looks good so far Ed. I too have β€œfun” with painting, sometimes it’s a fairly easy process, other times I get real, real good at sanding down the first coat and β€œlicking my calf overβ€πŸ˜
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