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    Just another, Smit Nederland Build!
    by figtree7nts ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ( Rear Admiral)
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    ๐Ÿ“ Main Deck!
    24 hours ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    I laid the main deck today!

    I had thought of using PVA wood glue!
    I had done a test on some scratch wood.
    But, I didn't like how it let go to easily!

    So, I used Slow Cure Cyano Glue!

    Let me tell you, You have to work.
    Very fast as the cyano starts to dry quickly!
    Any way I put a 1/8" bead all around the deck.
    Flipped it and placed it as quick.
    And as accurate as possible!

    I used Duck Tape to hold the deck in place!

    I then used green Model Putty around the deck!
    That is to cover the seam between the deck and the hull!

    I'm still peeling glue off my fingers! LOL ๐Ÿ˜

    Now, I'm currently waiting for the green putty to dry!

    Having waited 1 hour for the green model putty to dry!
    I sanded down the whole entire deck!
    I also sanded the green model putty!
    The deck is nice and smooth now!

    and the crevasses are also filled!
    Everything is nice and smooth and even!

    Model Putty
    Slow Cure Cyano Glue
    Duck Tape
    bead
    crevasses
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Main Deck!
    21 hours ago by Rookysailor ( Lieutenant)
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    WoW! Ed, it's coming together quick, looks lovely and smooth, green putty is very good, use it myself regularly, sands just like wood๐Ÿ‘

    Cheers, Pete
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Main Deck!
    19 hours ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Pete,

    I love the stuff!
    It dries quickly and sands very easily!

    Watch out for the fumes!!!๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

    Cheers, Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Main Deck!
    11 hours ago by Martin555 ( Commodore)
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    Hi Ed,
    She is taking shape nicely.
    Looks like there is no stopping you now LOL!

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Kort Nozzles, Shafts and Shaft Supports installed!
    2 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Kort Nozzle are now installed!
    After installing the Kort Nozzles.
    I installed the shafts!
    I used a disk measuring 31mm in diameter!
    I drilled a 4mm hole in the center.
    To accommodate the shaft!

    I then pressed the disk into the Kort Nozzle!
    This gave me the center of the Kort Nozzle!
    I then measured the shaft!

    Did this for both Port and Starboard sides

    I also had to find the proper position.
    Of the Shaft support.
    Once I found it using the disk in place.
    I marked where it was to go!

    I also marked the other side as well!

    The shaft support are two pieces you have to glue together.
    And in the center goes a 2mm screw.
    Which is used to strengthen the shaft supports!

    The shaft support are glued in place.
    But, You have to find the center.
    Where the shaft support go.
    Drill a 2mm hole. Then place the Shaft support.
    Put the tiny nut, It measures about 4mm!

    Now, The Kort Nozzles also take a screw!
    You have to find the center of the Kort Nozzle Platform.
    You then Drill a 1.5mm hole in the center!
    Place the tiny Screw. Screw it in place!
    Now the Kort Nozzles are Secured!

    Kort Nozzle
    nut
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kort Nozzles, Shafts and Shaft Supports installed!
    2 days ago by Cashrc ( Warrant Officer)
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    Looking good buddy, looking good! Youโ€™ll have her in the water before you know it!!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kort Nozzles, Shafts and Shaft Supports installed!
    1 day ago by Martin555 ( Commodore)
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    Hi Ed,
    I agree with Cash you are definitely making excellent progress.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kort Nozzles, Shafts and Shaft Supports installed!
    1 day ago by marky ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    looking Good Ed,what are you going to do with all the extra Kort nozzles๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kort Nozzles, Shafts and Shaft Supports installed!
    24 hours ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Thanks, Cash and Martin!

    Slowly, Slowly I'll get there!

    Cheers, Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kort Nozzles, Shafts and Shaft Supports installed!
    23 hours ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Marky,

    Put them on Ebay!!! LOL ๐Ÿ˜

    Nah, Probably use them on one of my other tugs!
    I might look to see If I can use it on my San Pedro tug!
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    ๐Ÿ“ Kort Nozzles and Becker Rudders!
    4 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Kort Nozzles supports were easy to assemble!
    It about 6 pieces of formed ply!
    Just had to glue them together!

    Set aside to dry!
    Oh, I didn't have wood sealer.
    So. I used thin Cyano to seal the wood!

    I'm sure others may disagree.
    With that technique!

    But, It's just temporary.
    Until I can order some Ezecoat!
    Recommended by RNinMunich "Doug"!

    After working on the Becker Rudders.
    For a day and a haft!
    I am finally finished with assembling them!
    They should completely dry by Saturday morning!
    Surprisingly, they do work!

    But, I feel that the brass ones will be better!

    Tomorrow Saturday, I will be laying the deck!
    As after working with the becker rudders.
    I found I can disassemble them when needed!

    But, may have to glue them in place.
    After, I receive the brass ones!

    wood sealer
    Becker Rudders
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kort Nozzles and Becker Rudders!
    4 days ago by Martin555 ( Commodore)
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    Good work Ed,
    Nice to see you are able to get on and do a bit to you'r Tug.

    Martin555.

    Tug
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kort Nozzles and Becker Rudders!
    3 days ago by mturpin013 ( Lieutenant)
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    A surprisingly different way of producing a rudder profile, despite the work involved it seems to have produced a good profile, one to put in the memory bank. I suppose producing these shapes using a laser cutter is relatively easy as they can be produced very arcuately and quickly with a minimum of programming

    laser cutter
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kort Nozzles and Becker Rudders!
    3 days ago by MouldBuilder ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Looking good Ed.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kort Nozzles and Becker Rudders!
    2 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Michael,

    They were fairly easy to build!
    Using inverted tape was the key!

    Cheers, Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kort Nozzles and Becker Rudders!
    2 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Thanks Martin,

    Slowly I'll get there!

    Cheers, Ed
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    ๐Ÿ“ Acrylic Rudders, Oh My!
    5 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Today I also worked on one of her rudders!
    The new rudders are made of Acrylic Plastic!
    They used to be made of brass!

    Its very time consuming assembling them!
    First you have to take apart the Acrylic pieces!
    Be very careful! It splinters easily!
    It's almost like working with glass!

    Oh, It helps to have Acrylic Glue!
    You can't use any other glue.
    But that's made for Acrylic Plastic!

    I had purchased to different viscosities!
    As I wasn't sure which to use!
    I ended up using the thin viscosity

    I had never worked with Acrylic Plastic!
    There's a first time for everything!

    I took all the acrylic pieses.
    I put them on a piece of tape.
    So the tape could hold the pieces in place!
    I then ran the glue across the pieces!

    You have to make sure the pieces.
    Are tight to each other!
    The glue starts to hold within a few minutes!
    It'll take 24 to 48 hour for the glue to fully set!

    I have one completed and one to go!

    I am currently working on purchasing.
    The old fittings kit which comes with the brass rudders!

    I decided to assemble the Acrylic Rudders to show.
    What they look like!
    I find them to be weak in design!
    And look forward to getting the Brass ones!

    This is what's holding me up!
    See the rudder post are high in the hull.
    And you also have to tighen up.
    A small nut that holds the rudder in place!

    It would be some what difficult to reach.
    After the deck it laid!

    So, for now I'll work on a few things!
    Once I have recieved the Brass rudders.
    It'll be full steam ahead!

    nut
    fittings kit
    Acrylic Rudders
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Acrylic Rudders, Oh My!
    5 days ago by Martin555 ( Commodore)
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    Good work Ed,
    You are right the brass rudders would be better.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Acrylic Rudders, Oh My!
    4 days ago by Rookysailor ( Lieutenant)
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    What a naff idea for making a rudder, totally agree with you Ed, wait for the brass one's, then send the acrylic rubbish back to the Dutch๐Ÿ˜

    Cheers, Pete

    btw, looking good so far๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Acrylic Rudders, Oh My!
    20 hours ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Thanks Rooky,

    Slowly, Slowly I'm getting there!

    The Acrylic rudders are to me a bad design!
    Who know how long they'll last!

    Soon, I will be ordering the brass ones!

    Cheers, Ed

    rudders
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    ๐Ÿ“ False keel and Engine Room Deck!
    5 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Today I installed the false keel.
    It has to be trimmed as the keel.
    Is some what narrow toward aft end!
    So, I used my trusty Dremel to trim.
    The false keel which is 10 mm squared x 580 mm!

    I also glued the main deck support
    This was done using paper clamps!
    I put a clamp every few inches.
    Ran a bead of thin Cyano!

    Did this a few time till I had the whole main deck support glued!

    bead
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    ๐Ÿ“ Assembly of the Shafts and Drill the Boss!
    7 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    The Smit Nederland comes with shafts.
    They are all brass!
    Don't know how they will perform!

    The Shaft are easy to assemble.
    You just have to.
    Put the bearing on the shaft sleeves!
    It helps to use a hammer!

    I found that after I assembled them.
    The shafts wouldn't go in to the bearings.
    So, had to drill the bearing a bit!
    But after doing so the shafts.
    Went on and could spin freely!
    With just a bit of tension!

    Next, I had to drill the bosses.
    I made a small template.
    Circle with a divider!
    Used this to find the center of the boss!
    Then drilled the boss using 1mm drill.
    Then increased to 6mm for the shafts to go though the Bosses!

    Having found the center of the Boss and the Center of the Kort Nozzle support.
    I then drew a line from the Boss to the Kort Nozzle support.
    This line will be used to center the Shaft Support!

    hammer
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Assembly of the Shafts and Drill the Boss!
    7 days ago by Martin555 ( Commodore)
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    Hi Ed,
    I bet it feel's good now that you are getting on with the build of the Tug ?

    Keep up the good work.

    Martin555.

    Tug
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    ๐Ÿ“ And now for something different!
    8 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Now how many times.
    Do you want to test an LED But can't?
    Well, I know I get tied of hunting for a small wire.
    To test my LED's!
    So, I splerged $3.00 for a cheap LED tester!
    I'm hoping I don't blow myself up with it! LOL!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: And now for something different!
    8 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Cheap test! But it actually works!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: And now for something different!
    8 days ago by Rookysailor ( Lieutenant)
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    A great LED tester Ed, bought one myself from Components Shop, works a treat!๐Ÿ‘

    Cheers, Pete

    treat
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: And now for something different!
    7 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hoorah! ๐ŸŽˆ๐ŸŽˆ At last Ed!๐Ÿ‘
    Seem to remember suggesting you get one months ago while we were designing your Brooklyn lighting circuits! ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Better late than never Admiral๐Ÿ˜‰
    Best o' luck with the new build๐Ÿคž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: And now for something different!
    7 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Doug,

    Now I remember!
    It was you that recommended I get a tester!

    Thanks for the Recommendation!

    Cheers, Ed
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    ๐Ÿ“ Trimming the Deck!
    9 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Well, I finally got a chance to purchase.
    two pieces of poster board.
    To use as a template!

    I had measured the hull.
    It measured in at 33 1/4"
    But the deck is 33 3/8"

    So, I traced the deck on both pieces of poster board.
    making sure the template measures 33 1/4"
    I then placed the template on to the deck.
    Then drew around the bow and the stern!

    Next, I will trim the excess!

    Having carefully trimmed the excess.
    The Deck now fits the Hull!
    It has a comfitible fit! LOL๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

    I was very worried about trimming the deck.
    I had thought of cutting the deck.
    But, the simulated ribs.
    Which will be place in on another step.
    Would of not matched the bulwark correctly!

    So, Thanks to all on your advice.
    Of using a template.
    The advice worked like a charm!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

    I had never had to cutdown a deck before!
    There's always the first time!

    I had ordered some glues.
    Their scheduled to arrive on monday morning!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Trimming the Deck!
    9 days ago by Rookysailor ( Lieutenant)
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    Looking Good Ed, dis you have any problem with the deck on your Jersey City Tug?๐Ÿ˜


    Cheers, Pete
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Trimming the Deck!
    9 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Peter,

    Not at all had no problems!
    With the deck of the Jersey city tug!

    You just have to join them at the seam!

    It's the same thing as the Brooklyn Tug as well!

    Oh, don't forget to cover the seam!

    Cheers, Ed

    PS.

    The deck of the Smit Nederland was a good challenge!๐Ÿ‘

    PS
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Trimming the Deck!
    9 days ago by Martin555 ( Commodore)
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    Nice job Ed,
    Keep it up.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Trimming the Deck!
    8 days ago by mturpin013 ( Lieutenant)
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    One more piece of advise, I use empty coernflakes packets (large size)
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Trimming the Deck!
    8 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Michael,

    Thanks for the advice!
    Problem is neither I or the missus eat cereal!

    But, The poster boards just cost $5.00.
    And it had been raining here for a few days!
    So, even any cardboard that was outside.
    in the trash would have been soggy!

    But, Thanks for the advice really appreciate it!

    Cheers, Ed

    cardboard
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    ๐Ÿ“ Glue, Glue, and more Glue!
    10 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    OK, I've ordered some medium and some thin glue!
    I do have some on hand.
    But, Over time Cyano tends to thicken up!
    And I can't glue the deck support to the hull!

    So, once I received the glues.
    Which will be this Monday!
    I'll be able to glue the support strips in place!

    Then onto fitting the deck to the hull!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Glue, Glue, and more Glue!
    10 days ago by Martin555 ( Commodore)
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    Hi Ed,
    It's good to see you are getting in to the build after all the problems you have had before hand.

    How did you get on with the Decoader upgrade for your F14 Transmitter ?
    I have flicked through your log but cannot see if you managed to get it sorted.


    Martin555.

    F14 Transmitter
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Glue, Glue, and more Glue!
    10 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Martin,

    I had sent the unit back to Cornwall Model Boats.
    They sent them back to Germany!
    Where they are being tested!

    I should be recieving new replacements.
    Within a month's time!

    I hope!๐Ÿคž

    Cornwall Model Boats
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Glue, Glue, and more Glue!
    10 days ago by Martin555 ( Commodore)
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    Hi Ed,
    It seems to be taking a long time to sort out.
    I would be extremely tempted to contact them and ask for a progress report.
    Maybe that will make them get a move on and replace it.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Glue, Glue, and more Glue!
    9 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Martin,

    I had emailed my contact their at Cornwall Model Boats!
    I was told that he has been in constant contact.
    With the folks in Germany!
    I just have to be pacient.
    Which I have been.
    All, I want is working componants!

    But, I know what you mean.
    Sure is taking an awful long time though!

    Cheers, Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Glue, Glue, and more Glue!
    9 days ago by Martin555 ( Commodore)
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    Hi Ed,
    I have this feeling that you might have to become a pest to get a result.

    It should be sorted out in weeks and not months !

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Over sized Deck!
    13 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    OK, after checking the fit of the deck.
    I have noticed the the deck is to big!
    It's about 1/4" too long!

    Now what?

    How to solve this problem?

    I tried pulling on the hull!
    But, it's deffinately too short!

    The Hull is 33 1/8"!
    And the deck is 33 3/8"

    What to do?โ˜น๏ธ

    No matter how I try.
    I can't get the deck to fit!

    It's too long for the hull!

    Dare, I cut the deck?
    So that it can fit the hull!
    No one would know!

    I don't want to grind down.
    The bow or stern of the deck!

    But, If I cut amidship it would be OK!

    Anyone have a recommendation.
    As to how to handle this problem?

    The hull is ABS and the deck is 3mm ply!

    Help what to do?
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Over sized Deck!
    13 days ago by Martin555 ( Commodore)
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    Hi Ed,
    I would lay the plywood deck on some thin cardboard then draw around and cut it out.
    It is easer to trim cardboard that it is to keep cutting plywood,
    Keep trying and trimming the card until you are happy with the fit.
    If you cut to much card of you can then stick it back on with tape.
    When you have the fit that you want then place the card onto the plywood deck draw around it then cut the plywood to match.
    Hopeful you end up with the perfect fit.

    Just a suggestion.

    Martin555.

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    13 days ago by KenThompson ( Midshipman)
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    Good advice Martin, i would do as you said, trim the cardboard to fit, then place on plywood,
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    13 days ago by Rookysailor ( Lieutenant)
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    Bang on Martin, had this problem myself, only thing you have to make certain of is, do you take the extra from the stern or the bow? if the bow fits perfect, that leaves the stern, or in my case I cut the deck 75% to the stern, and trimmed off 3mm then rejoined the deck, when planked, you couldn't see the join!๐Ÿ˜

    Cheers, Peter
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    13 days ago by KenThompson ( Midshipman)
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    Can you put the deck on the work-surface, face down, place the hull upside down on top of the ply deck, draw around the deck, cut out to the marked out line, then trim off to fit??
    Good luck
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    12 days ago by figtree7nts ( Rear Admiral)
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    Thank you, all for your suggestion!
    As it has been raining here.
    For the last couple of days!

    Any cardboard laying.
    Around outside is wet

    I'll have to wait to see.
    If I can find some cardboard!
    I don't have any on hand!

    I figure I'll have to trim about an 1/8" of an inch.
    On both the bow and the stern!

    Looking at trimming an 1/8" of an inch.
    On both the Bow and the Stern.
    It would change the look of the model some what!

    Further investigation is needed!
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    12 days ago by Rookysailor ( Lieutenant)
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    "Looking at trimming an 1/8" of an inch.
    On both the Bow and the Stern.
    It would change the look of the model some what!"
    Agree with your comment Ed, that is why I took the trouble of splitting the deck, where you feel is right, then taking the relative amount from either, or both pieces, trust me, it does work.๐Ÿ˜

    Cheers, Peter
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Over sized Deck!
    12 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Ed,
    THE MOST IMPORTANT tip given here is -
    "first check if the bow and stern fit properly".
    Remember while doing this that fibreglass and moulded plastic hulls tend to pull inwards at the top edges after release from their moulds!!! 1/4" does seem a bit excessive though! But then the bigger the hull the bigger the problem ๐Ÿค”
    I've often noticed this problem with moulded plastic kits.
    So expect to have to push them back out a bit to fit the decks. Gently warming the hull (hot water - no blow torches๐Ÿ˜ฎ) helps to do this.
    Having done that if bow and/or stern fit OK take an appropriate slice out of the deck amidships.
    Before you do though check carefully if the deck beam is correct and matches the hull beam, and where you can take a slice out without creating a gap at the bulwarks.

    When I prepare my HMS Manxman hull, before I glue the deck supports in, I will check the width and fit of the deck at various points and glue in some appropriate stiffening cross beams to ensure that I do not distort the hull when glueing in the deck supports. This is not in the Dean's instructions but I consider it to be a prudent precaution๐Ÿ˜‰
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Over sized Deck!
    7 days ago by Ron ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Surely Ed you must have some packaging of food items that come in a carton or box packaging? Taco shells? Sugar? Salt? Popcorn? Soda Crackers? Pasta? Wax paper, Aluminum Foil? All these are products that might come in a carton versus plastic pkg.

    carton
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    Sugar
    Soda Crackers
    Wax paper
    Aluminum Foil
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