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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 31 (47โ SLEC kit) build blog
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I hear you Pete, I was desperate for a โnew in boxโ MS kit and on impulse I paid the price although it does come with the motor and hopefully itโs the right one recommended. Still awaiting the postie to deliver!
Iโm really desperate for a MS Tamar unbuilt kit, sadly they seem to go for over ยฃ500 on the odd occasion they turn up on ebay and Iโve no interest in some of the built ones that turn up again commanding extortionate prices. As you say, it would be nice if someone could take on the MS range again. Kind regards sy ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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I saw the kit of 'Maggie M ' on Ebay, I thought he was asking a little bit to much for it, it appears that since Model slipway ceased trading, their kits are bringing silly high prices, just wish that somebody would get the range and start producing the kits again.๐
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 31 (47โ SLEC kit) build blog
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Pete,
My โLoyalโ was almost next! Iโve still got a brand new Loyal kit sat in France awaiting its travels across the channel, goodness only knows when that will arrive? However, I managed to secure an impulse eBay buy of a very old and dusty part started Loyal which I picked up last week from Devon. Itโs going to take quite a bit of work to get it cleaned and stripped back to a starting point and I just feel that if I spend hours doing that then all of a sudden the new kit comes over the channel! Itโs always posssible that the kit in France may not arrive for various reasons and that will leave me no choice but to build the other, whatever happens, it will be next. Kind regards Sy Ps, I managed to get a brand new Maggie M slipway kit last week off that dreaded auction site! ๐คฌ๐คฌ๐คฌ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 31 (47โ SLEC kit) build blog
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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Wot's happened to the 'Loyal Moderator' Sy? I thought that was going to be your next build.๐
Cheers, Pete btw, Only arskin! cause I've got one to build and I wanted to follow yours.... ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 31 (47โ SLEC kit) build blog
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Thanks Rick, hope you enjoy the build, but please note I donโt always finish ha ha, Iโve many a started project that I promise to go back to and never do! This one will be finished ๐
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 31 (47โ SLEC kit) build blog
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy You excel at choosing a boat. Will watch with envy as you build her.Hats off to your skills in building and finishing your boats.
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 31 (47โ SLEC kit) build blog
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Jacko and welcome aboard. Yes is the answer, this is the start of a start to finish blog, so subscribe for regular updates.
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 31 (47โ SLEC kit)
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Martin and welcome aboard once again! I shall do my best to produce a stunner, at this scale (1:8 scale) it needs to be right as mistakes will show.
Great idea on pre-drilling cable holes! There are already some in the bulk heads, but will look to see if Iโm going to need more before committing to glue. Kind regards Sy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 31 (47โ SLEC kit)
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
I can only dream of making something like this. I think you will make an amazing model. You certainly have the skill to make a real masterpiece. May i make a suggestion that you drill a few holes in the frames so that you can neatly run cables, tube's and so on. Looking forward to this. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 31 (47โ SLEC kit)
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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looks like a nice kit will there be a build blog ??
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๐ฌ Re: Let building commenceโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Colin, thank you so much for those pictures and link, there is some superb reference pics there that will come in very useful.
Curious to see the price she sold for, not a lot in my eyes although it would neeed money thrown at it to bring her back to standards and then the running and mooring costs after! Iโd love a boat like that, but fear it would be a money pit, maybe Iโll rent one for a holiday in the next couple of years ๐ Kind regards Sy ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Good afternoon Sy, I thought these pics mihgt give you some ideas.
I wish I was a boy again, my dad rented us a Swordsman for the 1969 boatshow lived aboard for 10 Days, and cruised the south coast and round the Isle of White. VERY HAPPY DAYS!!!!! Cheers Colin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Let building commenceโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Rick, I am to please ๐
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๐ฌ Re: Let building commenceโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy Off to a good start.
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๐ฌ Re: Let building commenceโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Bill and welcome aboard again, hopefully Iโll do my best to keep you entertained!
Kind regards Sy ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Morning Sy.
Looking good and another worthwhile project that will keep us all enthralled. Keep it up. Regards Bill. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Let building commenceโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Doug and welcome aboard. I was looking at different Fairey logos ect last night and your right at some point I will need them. Due to the big scale of this model though and I will probably go with a standard blue and white scheme, Iโm hoping I can find someone who makes decals in vinyl. Thankfully the Huntsman 31 doesnโt often appear with lots of logos and decals ect, unlike the smaller 28 which often does.
Iโll worry about that down the line, but another issue I have is what to do about the deck planking? The kit comes with a pre-printed deck representing the curved planks of the real thing. I want to lay down planking strips with white plastic of lime caulking but have no idea how to do the curved planks, straight ones would be a doddle! Again Iโll put that thought out there in a week or 2 when Iโm closer to deck planking. Kind regards Sy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Let building commenceโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Indeed Colin, there is something about the classic lines of Fairey boats thatโs just so pleasing on the eye
Kind regards Sy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Let building commenceโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy, that's a good start to your new boat,a big beast but a beautiful shape.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Martin, yes, all is aligned nicely, the keel will go in tomorrow along with the chine rails prior to sheeting, that much loved job ๐
As for the smoker unti, that has kept me off the fags for 7 years lol, Kind regards Sy ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Off to a great start Sy,
Did you use the keel to double check alignment ? I see you have a smoker unit already assembled on the bench. LOL!!! Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fitting the keel and chine rails โฆ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy, look for reusable ties they are great and no waste.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Good tip with the cable ties nerys, Iโll keep that one in the mental bank for the future, Iโve hundreds of the little plastic blighters lol.
Kind regards Sy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fitting the keel and chine rails โฆ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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She's a big old boat, Sy, but you seem to be getting on well with her. As you say, one can never have enough cramps but they don't work when fitting chines, I find that cable ties can be quite helpful.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Iโm switching the iPad off Rick, I need no distractions, the chines are ok,a I just checked ๐๐๐
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3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy The chine will look after its self. The game whistle is more important.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Geoffrhoose ( Recruit)
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I agree excellent products.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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I thought that would have been the case, (or are you building a full size version. On the qt.)
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Colin, when I said I was using 48oz cloth, what I meant was 48gsm cloth, so no, Iโm not using ultra heavyweight canvas ro cover the hull ๐๐๐
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Bill, work gets in the way of modelling if Iโm honest, thankfully I only work 3-4 days a week now so get plenty of time off. But yes, going to work does give me a break then I can come back at the modelling reinvigorated ha ha!
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Amazing Sy.
I think Iโve said it before but with the amount of time you dedicate to your masterpieces do you go to work for a rest? Regards Bill. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Martin, a good idea indeed but Colin suggested doublers which will mean less drilling and filling later. But thank you one and all for your input, every little helps. ๐
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Great idea Colin, I shall add some doublers ๐
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy,
Maybe you could drill a hole through the form and a couple of holes through the skin then with some cable ties or strong string you could pull the skins in hard to the form until the glue dries. I know you will have to fill the hols later. Martin555. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy, in places where you have compound curves such as your Fairey, I add doublers to the edge of the bulkheads. 1/4inch Square. Glued and pinned, this gives a good solid area to put screws or pins.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Martin,
The issue I have is the thickness of the bulkhead formers, they arenโt thick enough to take a screw. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
I have recently done a bit of skinning up and i found i had to use some small wood screws to hold the skin in place around the bow. When the glue had dried i removed the screws then glued cocktail sticks in to fill the holes. the sticks were then cut flush ready for sanding. Martin555. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi JB, that sounds like a great idea.
My next issue is when fitting the side ply sheets there is quite an inward curve on the bow bulkheads that the ply has to bend too. I think I need to try and pre-curve the ply with hot water and the heat gun otherwise I will rage trying to get the ply sheet in position! Let the fun begin! ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy, just a suggestion,- what I do, is once everything is lined up and sized, I drill 2 (firm fitting) locating dowel holes (say- transom and mid keel) with the planks clamped in the correct position (small pointed bamboo skewers are good). Make a couple of small dowels (10mm) with a point on both ends and push them into the holes (leaving 5mm protruding). Remove the sheet and re apply to check. This will make locating and clamping the sheets spot on first time, with no worries about them moving (works for decks as well)
Alternatively, you can drill the holes, apply the glue, then push pointed dowels in to locate, but I've found fixing the dowels first is easier. I apply the PVA or balsa glue as usual, and leave say 5mm gaps every so often for a blob of thick Cyano. This will grab quickly when the plank is clamped and hold things in case the clamps move. The dowels can be sanded off later. When you run the resin round the inside, it will fill up any gaps and glue everything solidly, (also seals and waterproofs PVA,)- I've found that even a good coating of dope, -then painted,- will do that as well. JB ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The battle of the skins!โฆโฆ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy, 48oz? Very heavy duty, the heaviest I ever used was 24oz to build myself a fishing Kayak.
So I don't think you will ever break this one. Cheers Colin. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Many thanks for the tips Colin. I shall give the bare wood a coat of thinned resin in the first instance then a couple of coats neat as suggested. Iโm using a slightly heavier 48oz cloth as itโs a large model, so may need more to fill the weave.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy, I usually thin my first coat 1 part water 2 parts Ezekote, then any further coats neat. I use 25gsm glass cloth and I have also used a pair of ladies tights(with permission)
Which follows the Hull shape really well without having any overlaps or joints. Also ezekote mixed with some fine sanding dust makes a great filler paste that sets hard and bonds well without shrinkage. Hope this helps Colin. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I dare say Doug will pop in and advise when he sees the post Pete ๐
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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Hi Sy, I believe that Doug mentioned something about thinning it down for the first coat to let it sink in, just wish I could find the post that it relates to.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Mike and welcome aboard! Many thanks for your input, hopefully things will stay stuck with waterproof pva and all the other layers of cloth, resin paint ect.
Iโve got a bottle of that eze cote resin which I am going to use for the first time on this model. Iโve always used 2 part finishing resin but that stuff is expensive and doesnโt go far, especially on a model this size. I did a little experiment with the eze cote the other day on a piece of ply and a scrap piece of glass cloth. I gave the wood a cote of resin, sanded it smooth when dry then added the cloth and another coat of resin. Once dried, sanded that smooth and gave the cloth a further 2 coats with sanding between followed by a coat of red oxide primer, I was quite pleased with the finish. I used the resin neat, do I need to thin it? What I do like is the quick drying time and lack of smell, oh and the brush washes out in water, win win I say! Any tips gratefully received before I get to the clothing stage. Kind regards Sy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The battle of the skins!โฆโฆ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy I'm sure with the addition of glass in the overall process it will stay glued together.
However for future reference I would use epoxy 30 minute set for all the construction of the main frame and skins and as Rob says Hammarite for the internal wood after a coat of Deluxe Materials Eze Kote Finishing Resin (diluted) PS I use smooth hammarite in cream as it lightens up the internals, I know Rob uses silver in a hammered finish. All in all its looking good ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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In fact Rob, Iโve gotta pass B&Q on way home Thursday, so Iโll take the smooth back and get the hammered ๐
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I saw the hammered effect stuff on the shelf, Iโll get some next time Iโm in B&Q Rob ๐
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
I have used the expanding type Gorilla Glue for joinery work and that's very good as it expands into the grain and fills any gaps in yer mortice and tenon joints, (yes..... I can still make all the joints I was taught in woodwork class ๐) but I've not used their PVA though. Hammerite...that is indeed the stuff I used inside my Crash Tender, but I used the 'hammered effect' finish as it's more tolerant of brush marks. Once it has dried and 'cured' it's makes for a very hard, durable and waterproof finish. Rob. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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SY,
I have been saying for a long time now that i am not right LOL!! Martin555. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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That's the same paint I use Sy,
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Colin, always happy for peopleโs input and comments, itโs what the hobby is all about, learning and sharing the knowledge.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Martin, you must surly be tapped in the head if you think sheeting is fun, I hate it with a passion !๐๐๐. Iโll be glad when itโs done, sanded, filled and glassed, never to be seen again lol
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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I will admit Sy this is a fun bit LOL!
I am sure you will conquer it. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The battle of the skins!โฆโฆ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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Very rapid progress as we've all come to expect from you Sy ๐๐.
I'm following your build with great interest as I very nearly bought the same kit. I have always used Titebond II PVA glue which is 'water resistant' and far better that ordinary white PVA which is definitely not! There is also Titebond III which is apparently a 'waterproof' PVA if you really want 'belt 'n braces'. With the hull properly sealed with fibreglass and resin externally and a thorough paint finish internally I don't think you will have much to worry about. KUTGW ๐๐. Rob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The battle of the skins!โฆโฆ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy, it sounds like you've got it fully figured out, so I'll stop putting doubts in your head.
Great job so far and I'm sure it'll be a very special model when finished. Cheers Colin. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Colin, fingers crossed my use of PVA should be fine. The hull will be glass clothed and resin and painted on the outside and the inside will get a coat of resin followed by a coat of Hammerite paint which hopefully will mean the PVA will never come into contact with water. Of course I hope never to capsize the model either but you never know!
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๐ฌ Re: The battle of the skins!โฆโฆ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy it's getting this part right that helps give the model its strength, looks like you are coping well so far.
My only concern is your use of pva adhesive. I was given a model to repair that was built a couple of years ago using industrial waterproof pva, but after it capsized almost every joint opened up within half an hour. I had one hell of a job rebuilding it. Cheers Colin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The battle of the skins!โฆโฆ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I see what you mean Nerys, could be a bird house ha ha ๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: The battle of the skins!โฆโฆ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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Please forgive me for saying this, but from the first photo I thought you were building an elaborate two room bird house.
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๐ฌ Re: Sheeting continuesโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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You do see the doublers Colin, great tip, helped a lot, thank you very much ๐
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๐ฌ Re: Sheeting continuesโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy, Looks like you are getting the shape really well, do I see the doublers on the bulkhead edges.
Going really well sir. Cheers Colin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Sheeting completed, onwards and upwards!
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Your not wrong Martin, sunshine, sawdust and a cup of tea outside, winner! It also helps being outside as the boat is as long as my workbench!
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๐ฌ Re: Sheeting completed, onwards and upwards!
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Coming along nicely Sy,
It is nice to have a bit of good weather to be able to work outside. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Transom and false deckโฆ,
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi SY,
She is really taking shape now. Martin555. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Rick, that hardness part is done, almost onto the fun stuff!
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๐ฌ Re: Transom and false deckโฆ,
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Nicely done SY.
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๐ฌ Re: Transom and false deckโฆ,
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Colin, everything about the kit is nice, from the quality of the wood to the fit, hats off to SLEC!
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๐ฌ Re: Transom and false deckโฆ,
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Nicely done Sy, that transom is a good fit sir, keep it going.
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๐ฌ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a standโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Rob, the cloth was fairly easy to get down, but the eze-Kote doesnโt allow much time for fiddling! I had a couple of creases up at the bow but got then out in time! Job done, on with all the hull chine and spray rails tomorrow, a very distinct part of the Huntsman family!
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Nice one will, watch my planking to see how I get on. Iโm going to use the printed deck for various templates and have bought plenty of basswood 1.5mmx8mm strip along with some 1.5mmx1.5mm mahogany for the caulking although I bought all the stock my local shop had and will need Another 20x strips! Heโs panic ordered some more!
Looking at various pictures of real Huntsman, a lot seem to have light coloured sun bleached planking, so might just varnish the deck with no stain? Kind regards Sy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a standโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
As always I'm amazed at your rate of progress ๐ฎ๐ You did well to get the glass cloth on the hull all in one piece without any serious wrinkles ๐ Real planking is sooooo much nicer than laser etched and adds a real touch of class to any model. I found that once you got into the rhythm of layng the planks and caulking strips the process was relatively quick but always rewarding. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a standโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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You're making good headway and in my opinion, it's great to see another Fairey being built.
A Huntsman, or any Fairey motor cruiser model with a planked deck just looks right. The laser etching does a job and for someone inexperienced like myself, is welcomed. I will be having a 1st attempt at planking the deck of one of my Faireys at some point. Will ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a standโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Rick ๐
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๐ฌ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a standโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Looking good Sy moving along nicely.
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๐ฌ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a standโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Geoff, another idea to think about, thank you
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๐ฌ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a standโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Colin, will google that stuff, kind regards Sy
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๐ฌ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a standโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mistyoptic ( Midshipman)
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I find Rustins Outdoor Clear Varnish very good, dries in 30 minutes, can be thinned with water if required and brush wash up with water.
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๐ฌ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a standโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy, Le Tonkinois Marine No 1 Varnish.
Gives that glass coated look and it goes on well, but you need to do 1 coat a day with rubbing down between coats, I usually give 6 coats and a final polish with Farecla finishishing compound available at most Good auto paint suppliers. I know it's a slow process but it's worthwhile and lasts for years. Cheers Colin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a standโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Martin, I was thinking about using resin, the z poxy stuff Iโve got. I need to research it to see if itโs an option unless none has tried it before? What I would like to achieve is that glass like finish you see on post yachts !
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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That's handy to know Nerys, I've used it for furniture repairs and Caroline's dolls houses but never thought about the model boats.
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๐ฌ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a standโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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In the days when ply was the normal product to build dinghies, it was quite common to paint the whole of the interior with an adhesive called Cascamite. This was a powder that was mixed with water to become a waterproof adhesive. Like resin, it dried clear. I built several small boats with it even using it in the main construction. I see no reason why it should not be used to coat the interior of a model boat in fact it could be easier than resin as it does not go off quickly. I've seen it on sale in Axminster Tools, so I'm sure it is still readily available.
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๐ฌ Re: Hull shaping, cloth and resin, oh and a standโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
Instead of using varnish for the wood could you use resin ? Looking forward to the next update. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Chine and spray railsโฆ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Mike, I must admit, working with wood on the most part is a joy (apart from sheeting hulls around complex curves!), smells so much nicer than plastic, fibre glass ect.
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Your not Wrong Martin, wanting to get outside and finish the rails off today, but the weather forecast is looking โiffyโ with storms possible!
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๐ฌ Re: Chine and spray railsโฆ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy I hope this construction in wood has got rid of those feelings that hulls are made of plastic, they are not, wood is for the soul, plus it brings out all the best skills in you. - great job
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๐ฌ Re: Chine and spray railsโฆ
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Nice smooth lines Sy.
It is surprising how long this sort of job takes to do. Martin555. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Right Sy they do look cool.
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๐ฌ Re: Spray rails finished and other small tasksโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Thanks Sy. I'd like to see at least one finished and on the water pretty soon out of the five builds I've got on the go!
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Chris,
Such lovely boats, Fairey certainly built some classic lines! Yours look terrific, look forward to seeing them finished, Kind regards sy ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Hi Sy
I'd rather have the laser etched planking than nothing but agree that if one can do it planking gives the best effect. I've done it on three of my Fairey builds so far, photo shows my Huntsman 31 in the foreground and Swordsman behind. Unfortunately I haven't done any building for quite a few weeks now due to commitments and it being summer! Chris ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Chris, the bow wasnโt a pleasant task, but the result was pleasing so well worth the effort. As for size, I hear you, I think mine works out at 1:8 scale so almost action man scale and almost too big for my bench, never again ha ha!
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๐ฌ Re: Spray rails finished and other small tasksโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I hear your sentiments JB, the hobby is struggling to attract new builders, unfortunately todayโs younger generation are probably more interested in playstations, fashion and many other things good and bad. We are sadly a dying breed ๐ข
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๐ฌ Re: Spray rails finished and other small tasksโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Nice to see another Huntsman 31 being built. You've made a very nice job of the flared bow, not easy.
I did have a big Precedent version, bought already built, but found it too big for me and sold it on. Now scratch building one at 1:12 which matches my other Fairey builds. Chris ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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It would be a shame to lose you as well Colin, as there is a distinct lack of regular contributors at the moment, and that seems to be getting worse every month, to the detriment of the site. I hope things will come right soon before it goes too far, as we need experienced modellers to help the newcomers, or perhaps the hobby will die out completely.
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๐ฌ Re: Spray rails finished and other small tasksโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Colin, will be sorry to see you go if you leave, Martin sent me a private message yesterday saying heโd left the site for the same reasons, all very sad ๐ข
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๐ฌ Re: Spray rails finished and other small tasksโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy, you are welcome, chuck out any comments I make that don't fit in with your build. I try my best to be as helpful as I can, but even I make mistakes.
When I was an apprentice I was told that anyone who doesn't make mistakes doesn't make anything. So over my 60+ years of modelling I've made a few mistakes but hopefully I've learnt something from them. I may be leaving the site soon because of the way the moderators were treated. Keep modelling, your an inspiration to many. Cheers Colin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Spray rails finished and other small tasksโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Colin, many thanks for that info, on the note I shall resin inside and give the outside another coat of Eze-Kote followed by filler primer. Maybe youโve saved me a disaster!
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๐ฌ Re: Spray rails finished and other small tasksโฆ.
3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sy, what great progress you have made.
To answer your question about resin over Ezekote. I tried polyester resin and it peeled in hot weather. I contacted Ezekote website and asked about my problem, they told me that any resin that wasn't water based would peel either from vibration or climate variables. So I always paint directly over the Ezekote with two coats of filler primer before starting on the final coats. Hope this helps, cheers Colin. ▲
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3 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Rick, I try my best ha ha, kind regards. Sy
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3 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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You do nice clean work Sy
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