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    Thames Sailing Barges
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    Nerys
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    Hi Bob,
    It's very much a question of what sort of daggerboard you intend using, there's no hard and fast rule, just make the box to suit the daggerboard. On a 30" barge, I have used the bulb and fin from a ready to run model yacht and it worked fine. I have also used a strip of 1/4" brass which needed a heftier box than the bulb and fin. Mastman make firbreglass mouldings for a keel, but only for 42" barges. This you fill with lead shot and resin to the required weight. They are bolted on through a strengthening piece inside the hull and can thus be removed for travel or display. These are the most popular answer. Position of the keel or daggerboard. Just abaft the mast, inside the main hatch so that you can get to it. If you are technically minded you will probably want to work out the CLR and the Cof E. I'm not and just put it where it looks right. As like the bargebuilders of old, I work on the adage, that if it looks right, it probably is. All my barges sail alright.

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    When the winds before the rain, soon you may make sail again, but when the rain's before the wind, tops'l sheets and halyards mind
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    Nerys
    Getting close to cutting wood; but need to be enlighten as to how the fin passes thru the keel and secured. I envision something like a dagger board box. Is there any consensus on width; depth and thickness and shape of fin?
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    roycv
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    I seem to recall Spike Milligan using it in the Goon Show circa 1953.
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    "I don't wish to know that. Kindly leave the stage!"

    Now, which daft old TV show was that from?
    Probably Morecambe & Wise ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
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    Young at heart ๐Ÿ˜‰ Slightly older in other places.๐Ÿ˜Š Cheers Doug
    Nerys
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    I'll tell you anyway, Doug,
    The farmyard, cows and horses.
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    please remember barge sails were white when new and coloured after a few months work
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    Think I will pass on traditional sail dressing; but very interesting history.
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    "a mixture of Red ochre, Cod oil, Urine and salt water"
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    Wonder where they got enough urine from?
    NO! Don't tell me Nerys - I don't think I really want to know ๐Ÿ˜
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    Young at heart ๐Ÿ˜‰ Slightly older in other places.๐Ÿ˜Š Cheers Doug
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    Hi Dave,
    When I first started, the sails were still dressed traditionally. They would be laid out on a large grassy patch, then several men would come along with the dressing. This was a mixture of Red ochre, Cod oil, Urine and salt water. It was applied to the canvas with long arm brushes. left to dry, which it didn't and would then be rolled up, taken to the barge and bent back on If the sail had previously been dressed, the men carrying it would be a reddish colour by the time they laid the sail out, but by the time they had taken the sail back to the barge, would be completely red from head to foot. Even stowing the topsail or the foresail, one got plastered in the muck and resembled a Red Indian. The dressing never really dried. Sails were usually dressed when the barge went on the yard for a refit. Nรธwadays, more modern dyes are used which are fast
    A barges vangs are very important because they control the upper part of the rig, i.e. the topsail and do not allow the sprit and thus the topsail to sag down to loo'ard. They help retain an aerodynamic shape to the combined main and topsails.

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    Nerys
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    Hi Bob, I was speaking generally when suggesting trips to the East Coast, but I am sure you could find lots of photos on line and learn a lot from them. I hope the information I gave will be of some use to you, but if you want clarification of anything, I will do my best to help. I agree with you, make a long narrow box and stick solid carved ends on to it, simplifies things . A lot of people do that..
    Best of luck,
    Nerys
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