Bristol pilot cutter mascotte

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#123

Bristol pilot cutter mascotte

Hi,


Great build blog for Mascotte, and a fabulous end product!

Harking way back if I can, to the sail control for Mascotte. I am about to embark on a build of Cariad (or at least a pilot cutter similar to Cariad ). I'm trying to figure out the sail control for the two foresails. The front one overlaps the second, how did you get one to move over the other when tacking? A fellow club member has successfully built a spinnaker control for an IOM which has some of the features needed - treating the front sail as a spinnaker. But i'm open to any ideas.


Sam
#122

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its our moto isn't it Doug " welcome to the mad house you don't need to be NUTS but it sure helps" 😜
besides we don't do the norm
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#121

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Thanks Ron appreciate that👍
Looks like it'll be a while before I get that far but I'm sure I'll be coming back to you.
Not the least because I am converting a (badly built🤔) static model to RC and have an ambition to make the sails work as well. I know, NUTS!😁
But then, aren't we all just a little 😉 Cheers, Doug 😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
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#120

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Thanks Doug for your kind words, looks like you have a big job on there Doug and if need help with the rigging I would be more than happy to help were I can
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#119

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Brillo 👍 Hat off Sir 😉
May be asking your help some time about re-rigging the mess of a fish cutter I inherited. Just took her apart and started renovating the hull.
Wotta mess 🤔😲 More filler than wood and stern made from a cardboard tape reel 😡 Last pic is roughly what she should look like!
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
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#118

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Have got the main sail finally fitted after some minor length adjustment on some of the rigging
Pic 1 shows the hand made curtain rings made using 1mm brass rod.
Pic 2 shows mid way through threading the rope along the boom.
Ron
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#116

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I find that when the boat is nearing completion I don't always contemplate that there is something I haven't thought through.Just want to get the boat finished and on the water.
You're doing a fabulous job on this boat.Waiting to see it on the water.I have been following the construction.Excellant workmanship.
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Today i have made a start fitting the sails starting with the jib and stay sail just have the sail control wire to fix to them.
it has taken most of today just to fit these two as some changes had to be made to some of the rigging lines i had already done but this is my fault trying to get to far ahead of myself rather than being patient.
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#114

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You could have only made one oar as pilots always sculled one oar on the transom. I hope you are satisfied with your model, should be.
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#113

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im back on the job again now ( fingers crossed ) no more flare ups .
have got the stand for the ships boat built, varnished and fixed to the boat now, i had to change position of the fixing point for the ships boat because of the sail control wire. I have also got the oars for the ships boat made and given them there first coat of varnish, these were made using some 3mm pine dowel and a scrap piece of 4x2 beech planking strip.
have now started on the canvas cover for the ships boat.
Ron
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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Ships boat continued
The ships boat is almost complete now have got the floor and seats fixed in place ready for sanding and sealing.
have got some more of the rigging completed just a few more bits to do before fitting the sails.
thanks Doug for your kind words
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#111

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Hope you can soon 'get steam up' again Ron.👍
Can't wait for the sailing video!! 😁
All the best, cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
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#110

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Hi all afraid I had to but the builds on hold for a while again had another flare up with my health but things are settling down again now so hopefully I can get back to finishing this boat and enjoying sailing her for the first time.
Ron
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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Thanks jbrcfloats for your kind comments , I'm sure your builds will be just as good after all we all had to start somewhere. it would be nice to see your own build blog on here 👍
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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Thanks for the great advise. I was thinking about making smaller amounts of the resin so that I could control the heat. Nothing worse that spending a lot of time on the tug and then have the hull destroyed while adding ballast. You guys and gals over there really build beautiful models.
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Go easy on the hardener!!!
More hardener = faster curing = more heat = hole in vac-form plastic hull.
Stick to the epoxy instructions and you shouldn't have any problems.👍
LESS IS MORE 😉
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
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#106

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Hi jbrcfloats and welcome to the mad house.
Yes you are correct in saying that epoxy gives of heat while it cures and can cause damage to some of the more flimsy plastic hulls. The best way to be save when using epoxy with these hulls is to use smaller amounts so not to build up to much heat.
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#105

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Hi,

Great build. I'm in the process of building a Mid West Tug Boat and reached the point of needing to place some ballast in the bottom of the hull. I noticed that you used epoxy. I know that epoxy can get hot when curing and if you using a molded hull how do you control the heat issue so as to not warp the hull? I plan on using shot gun shot and been a bit worried about damaging the hull.😁
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Thanks for that hammer I had thought of using some boom grips where I can get away with it but will see how things go once I start with the sails.
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
#103

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Removing sails. Each model has its own problems hear. First top mast need to be able to lower, important. Main & stay sails remain attached, on my models they can be reefed in the prototype way. Jibs are ease, eyelets in sail hook on cords. The same with topsails if there are mast hoops a little ingenuity is required. I have spaced the hoops on a cord with hooks to the sail top & bottom. The tension on the cord & sail holds them together. Although the sail is not attached to the hoops it doesn’t notice. I often sail reefed down as I do most of my sailing in the winter. To much else to do in summer.
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#102

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So you're half way there 😉 Good stuff 👍
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
#101

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Nice idea Doug , I have made the top mast so it will drop to help with getting it in and out of the car.
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#100

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Nice one 'Cyril' 👍
Re transport: how about hinged masts, like the Ship in a Bottle guys??? 😉
Fold down for transport - at the pond
One 'guy' rope to secure and the whole Shebang stands up ready for action!
Easier written as done I know, but wouldn't it be NEAT!? 😁
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
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#99

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That looks great.You certainly work faster than I do.I'm not much in the rigging department.Maybe in the future I'll try.Again,good job.
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#98

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At last 95% of the rigging is now complete and I can now announce that it's ready to start fitting the sails 👍 I do still need to decide how to attach the sails so I can de-sail her for transportation.
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#97

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Thanks Doug yes your right about the tugs but this monster when finished is in old money around 9 kilos which is a struggle for me but got the wife to lift this one into the car 😜.
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#96

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Absolutely BRILL 👍 Right up 'Quality Street' 😉
BTW: didn't you say something about giving up tugs cos they were too heavy? What will this monster weigh when complete? 😲
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
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#95

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Thanks kmbcsecretary, I just saw the Anchor I need!
"Fair winds calm Seas"
73
#94

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thanks figtree7nts and Donnieboy i purchased the anchor from cornwall model boats, i tend to use these for most of my fittings orders as 99% of time they have in stock although they had to order the rigging blocks in for me due to the quantity needed.
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#93

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Nice job on the deck planking.Rigging is progressing nicely.Very tedious.lovely work.
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#92

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Great job on the eye splices. and of course the rigging!
Question where did you get you anchor from?
"Fair winds calm Seas"
73
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Have had a few days of as it was our clubs AGM last weekend so had a lot of paperwork to sort out.
The rigging is coming along now, not rushing this as don't want any mistakes .
Each rigging line and block has been stitched using matching thread to the rigging line (pic1) then a length of heat shrink tubing is placed over the stitching (pic2) .
Depending how things go over next couple of days I am hoping to have the sails fitted by Monday 😎
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#90

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Good tip Hammer. Will try that.
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Read the PM before I saw this & posted reply. Good to see there will be a next one.
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Thanks hammer have used the heat shrink like that on a previous boat and i tend to use the grimb tubes for the nylon line.
i did think of making the pulleys but just couldn't get my self motivated to do it.
i have my next project ready for starting and thinking will have to make everything for this one.
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#87

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Oh dear stainless pullers!! Wooden pullies easy to make as well. if you can find my harbour, I have a schooner with about 50 of different size, single doubles & triple.
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#86

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Tug man, as the splicing is taped over. Sized, I can save you a lot of time. Super glue the join, then cover with black heat shrink, Nylon cord will melt. But you should be ok. PS. Twist the joint then super glue. Wear latex gloves. Keep up the very good job. Proper job, they say down here.
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#85

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Thanks Donnieboy much appreciated
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
#84

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Great progress.As you say it will take time but the effort is worth it.Will be nice to see the rigging complete.As usual it will be a great job.
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#83

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And so it begins the endless spaghetti that is rigging. As I am using rope and not nylon rigging line I will be stitching the ends of the ropes as I go along so this is going to take more time to complete but I think it will be worth the effort.
The boom and yardarm are now in place .
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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#82

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I think you're right Ron 🤔 only just barely visible - a good argument for NOT painting it black! 😉
Fully understand with the pulleys - there are so many of them, would have done the same 👍 Keep up the good work, cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
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If you look closely Doug and enlarge the 3rd pic
you can see the clinker but only just due to the layers of paint I think 🙄
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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OK, I admit defeat 🤔
Seems the dinghy was painted black with a white lower hull.😆
Also doesn't seem to be clinker built!?
But since you have clinkered it please don't hide that under black paint 😲
Happy deciding, cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
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Thanks Doug for your kind words much appreciated, afraid I did cheat when it comes to the pulley's they were purchased from Cornwall model boats .
I did think of making them but decided it would take to long to make, although they did cost a few quid .
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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Way to go man!!!
At the risk of becoming monotonous 🤓 Brilliant woodwork and fittings 👍
Did you make the pulleys yourself?
Looks like stainless, if so Hat Off Sir 👍👍
PLEASE DON'T PAINT THAT LOVELY CLINKER BOAT!!😲
It would look Soooo good varnished to your usual standard, and I'm pretty sure from the photos of the original that only the canvas cover was blue.
Surely the boat itself was varnished.
More power to your rigging, Cheers Doug 😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
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brilliant build and even better finishing, look forward to the launch pictures, excellent, well done a real credit to you.
Dennis G.V.M.B.C
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Hello all have got some more of the rigging points completed and had to re-do the sail control line after dropping my snips onto the line and it caught the edge and nicked it so had to be replaced as no doubt would have snapped once under strain.
The ships boat is coming on nicely , have got the stern planked now and have made a start on cleaning up the glue overspill and sanding it down before fitting the floor and seats .
Once finished I will be painting the outside of the hull to match the main hull and varnishing the inside with a yacht varnish.
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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Today I have made the sails storage frames for when there stored in the rig bag.i've not posted pics yet as don't want to show the sails to early in the build.
Has also got some more done with the rigging pulley's ready for starting the time consuming job of the rigging hopefully next week.
The second pic shows the removable boom rest that I finished making today and have given it a coat of varnish while it's in position.
Ron
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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Hi marky and thanks for your comments very much appreciated the dimensions for the mascotte are 1140x300x310 (l,w,d)
I look forward to seeing the images of the figures when they are done. I did purchase some doll house figures but the adult ones are to large but the child ones you could get away with using them as the adults.
Today so far not done to much but fit a few more fittings and make the reach hooks.
The reach hooks were made using some 2mm I.d brass tubing which was heated and hammered to shape to make the hooks and attached to some round 2mm pine which was sanded and varnished to finish off.
Ron
Former tug nut now switched to sail because of health
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