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    DodgyGeezer
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    I think I understood that - it looks as if using computers is getting very close to being a general option for people instead of being an approach that only specialists would consider.

    I have successfully made up a CNC cutter and am starting to use it to cut model boat parts. I had no prior skill in that field and it cost me about the same as a Billing Boats Absalon kit.

    If people will put their work up on the web for free download then we can create a very useful resource for the modelling community. All someone who wanted a 1:8 scale winch would need to do would be to download the file and take it to the local library or MakerSpace for a cheap replica. I think that this is the way things are going, although the model parts companies are going to be very unhappy about it...
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    lesfac
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    I may have not made it clear but when I say you can make figures in Make Human they only exist in the computer (not physical items). All the programs make things on screen only but between them you can end up making a file that you can load onto a 3d printer and make the physical item.
    I had a go at it and then left it . I would now have to start the learning curve again.
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    I just thought you probably mean physically do the sculpting. I guess with the right skills that would work. My mistake.
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    I wonder if the 1:12 poseable mannequin available on ebay might be a good basis for the figure you require. You could pose it manually and then put the clothes on using filler...?
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-She-he-S-H-Figuarts-SHF-Body-Kun-DX-SET-Action-Figure-In-Box-Kids-Toy-Gift/283325849773?var=&hash=item41f78960ad&enc=AQADAAADAFjVrDbVsZ8oH%2F8PNHtt9VX4%2Fw7FZcmMuqsX8uaFEduVUZmu2ebxPHrFnbzhYLpZZXkC2nWwE2z6ZxM9DVRF9VapUZUgbt7jNqFJTxg6s%2FnRNmRCEEY9zjkyOs6l8gv8NSuuXbOip4j%2FZ9kaVm7M93A09d39jCXIuHMqFncH1xqvJSnbUWH9TBS3dOfaNzCltBR5xcMBglCJyPUfOn86YwDgVAVNPv277Iuy4%2FXB9Az85CRtZV%2BxWj1%2F0ZiX%2BniVhQ3EXpijtbGlASc2ervpjxxzJMoGbGWU%2BBW4KrVKxNXVYhKisdfJvVTWoMDllb2exzzb2%
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    lesfac
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    I have dabbled with 3d printing characters for my 1/12 Severn Lifeboat.
    I have found some amazing free programs that really are of a professional standard.
    "Make Human" is a program that lets you make figures and you can change their size, age , gender and clothing before your eyes.
    "Blender" is a particularly impressive program that I understand has been used to make videos by professional movie makers. It does much more than handle making figures but it will let you import a figure from Make Human and put a skeleton inside it and then pose the figure as you require. It also lets you sculpt the figure just like using plastercine.
    Another excellent free program is Sculptris which lets you sculpt as with plastercine.
    While these programs are amazing, (The more so as they are free) they have huge learning curves to use them well.
    I wanted a figure dressed as a lifeboatman in his kit. I had a go and "sculpted" a naked figure by adding to his body to try and crudely replicate the baggy waterproof gear. I got a figure out of the exercise with 3d printing it but I know I haven't scratched the surface of what these programs can do. I would like to create a lifeboatman and then pose the figure I create to get differing poses.
    All these programs have many "how to" videos on Youtube.
    I am sure that if you become competent with these programs you could make highly detailed figures for 3d printing. However it's not easy initially. It would be great if someone made a rigged (with skeleton to enable posing in Blender) figure available that could be posed as required.
    Just to be clear my problem becomes more difficult because I don't want the clothed options the Make Human program will simply give me. I need to change the clothing.
    Anyway it's a big subject so I will leave it there.
    Attached is a picture of the figure I made.
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    Now THAT is a useful thing to know. All we now need is a 3-D modeller with time on his hands to design half a dozen basic sailor forms in different sizes...
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    If you have access to a 3d printer,maybe at your local library,you can down load free from thingyverse,a couple I have had done Popeye 4"high and Captain Haddock 4" including base .these were both printed at my local library,with Popeye costing 50p and Captain H costing 75p.
    DodgyGeezer
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    I had hoped that this thread would cover ways to obtain useful model boat figures in the right scale and at a low cost. Re-casting existing models is useful, but only lets you reproduce what you already have, and 3-D printing seems VERY expensive at the moment.

    Perhaps 3-D printing will come down in price? And G Code files to print them might be offered free on the Web? In the meantime, I am still looking for good ways to obtain figures without having to pay the cost of a kit to get them.

    For my foreseeable future, I expect that modifying existing figures will be the best answer. As well as railway figures, there are a wide range of toy 'action figures' for sale at reasonable prices, particularly from charity shops. Looking on Ebay, these come in various sizes from 2" to 16" - but few of them will be suitable for modifying into nautical people with a bit of filler!

    This artist's mannequin at 5.5" looks promising for a 1:12 scale at less than a fiver - see below. If anyone can find some other good examples of good cheap scale figures, do mention it...
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-She-he-S-H-Figuarts-SHF-Body-Kun-DX-SET-Action-Figure-In-Box-Kids-Toy-Gift/283325849773?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140328180637%26meid%3D0238345ecad344c6af20f5b5015319dc%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D113459497715%26itm%3D283325849773&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982
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    Have a look at Shapeways, please find link below; https://www.shapeways.com or this one; https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace/miniatures/figurine there is a bewildering number of items that can be 3D printed to any scale.
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    Rookysailor
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    Another way for making extra figures similar to your technique, is to make a mold out of silicon rubber, then cast figures from two part resin, a bit safer than using HOT! white metal I think. Most items can be bought from Sylmasta https://sylmasta.com/product-category/casting-mould-making/
    https://sylmasta.com/product-category/casting-mould-making/
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    Maybe another way (certainly in 1/72 scale) is to pewter cast new crew. I took the original figures included with the Flower Class model and made a RTV silicon cast of them (to ensure I had an original copy) This method is simple - place the figures into plasticine contained within a lego 'walled' structure, then pour on something like GP-3481 from Polycraft (Although I use MBR-s version). Once cured, repeat in reverse to get complete figures i.e put half silicon mold containing the figures at bottom of box, paint on some vaseline as a mold release and to stop the silicon bonding to itself, then pour more silicon. Wait for it to set and then split the new mold, remove the original figures, cut some feed and vents and then clamp halves together after dusting with talc and then cast them in Pewter. I made about 20 figures and then set about changing arm positions, legs, caps etc with simple jewellers files etc. Then I recast the figures in more silicon, more pewter and finally painted and posed them. The RTV and Pewter casting techniques are widely seen on YouTube and I found it so easy. It's not the cheapest way (although it undercuts buying cast white metal figures commercially) and it meant I could not only get the crew looking how I wanted, but the molds last ages and I can recast many more at any time for the next project. Incidentally, I always use scrap lead free pewter found on line or in local car boots for pennies. As an aside, I also used the same technique to make many more splinter canvases for the bridge of HMCS Regina - saved me buying more!
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