Rookysailor wrote .....Your quite correct there Doug, this blog has been here months ago, and there were lots of moans about the plans being wrong, I never had problem with them, but have been building years😌
I think Don will be pleased as I have just been on his website, and he has the plans for both the Sea Nymph and the Sea Urchin, which Don said he was after.😐

I also found his plans were fine , they photo copies of the original, the problem was the hand drawn frames which he said were accurately drawn , they were abysmal , Stevie Wonder could have done a better job , but as the Urchin is so small I have ordered a set of plans from him and will loft my own frames from the plan and side views

Hi Dodgy,
Yep, I appreciate all that with copyrights etc, you explain that on your site very well👍
Also appreciate what you are doing to keep the Old boats alive, and that it's difficult to keep track of who's doing what where and under what name and web address 🤔
Often makes research very difficult; constant Error 404 or 'Sorry, we can't find that site' messages☹️
W H Smith don't seem to be doing anything model-wise these days.
Last time (a few weeks ago) I checked their Online Shop it was full of trash toys.

Keep up the good work,
Cheers, Doug 😎


Belair is new one on me, sounds interesting👍

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I think this might be one for our 'Dodgygeezer'!? He runs a site with some vintage plans..........Just tried 'em and they don't work.🤔
At best they'll redirect Dodgy's site needs updating!....."

Yes, indeed.

My sites (unusually for me!) try to comply with current legislation. Very simply, this means that I need to get permission from the rights holder, or declare the item to be an 'orphan'. If you want a discussion of my interpretation of the current copyright legislation, ask for it in a separate thread!

In general, where vintage model kits are still being sold, I do not publish plans, since these can be obtained commercially. All the plans which are available for free from my sites either come with explicit written permission from the rights holder, or documented evidence that I have researched the history and found any rights holder to be unavailable.

That is the case, for example, for all 'Marinecraft' models, which were created by Model Aerodrome Ltd, merged with Model Aircraft (Bournemouth) Ltd, became Model Aircraft Stores, and then reverted to Model Aerodrome. At some point in the 1970/80s the kits were discontinued, and Model Aerodrome was sold to an entrepreneur in 1987 who resurrected the business under the name 'ModelZone'. This went bust in 2013, and W.H.Smith bought the name to sell imported model cars under. Their legal department do not seem to know whether with that they also obtained the rights to some model boat plans designed in the 1950s by a company started in the 1930s. Nor do they seem to care. They have, of course, no existing plan data, so as usual I have to reverse engineer from surviving examples..

Tracking this kind of thing is complex, and the Aerokits models have been through a bewildering series of ownership (and claimed ownership). Often this seems to be the same people trading under different names. At the moment SLEC seem to be making (and selling) the kits, while Cornwall Model Boats, Jotika, Lesro and Vintage Model Works and a good few others all distribute them. Of particular interest is Belair, who have an agreement with Colin Smith to produce the old Phil Smith range of kits. But while all these are being commercially provided I will refer plan requests to the rights holders.

Tracking all this it time-consuming, but it looks as if I should do a bit of link updating at some point...

Your quite correct there Doug, this blog has been here months ago, and there were lots of moans about the plans being wrong, I never had problem with them, but have been building years😌
I think Don will be pleased as I have just been on his website, and he has the plans for both the Sea Nymph and the Sea Urchin, which Don said he was after.😐

Peter

Now that rings a bell😉
Seriously! Remember all this debate and that name from a few years ago now.
Hope Don can find what he wants there.
Doug

SLEC took over a few boats from VMW I think Doug,
I have tried this guy of Ebay, Belcrank1, he has many aerokits plans, have bought several off him and they make up well, link below...😀
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/belcrank1/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=😐

Peter

I looked for his site online and I got a link to http://eezebuilt.co.vu/ but it just timed out
but the one from Jacko worked fine

That looks really good, just been and downloaded it
Thanks for the heads up

Don

Hmm! Belay that!
Just tried 'em and they don't work.🤔
At best they'll redirect here-

"Sorry this site is now closed please go to
http://www.slecuk.com
"

Seem to recall SLEC taking over the range sometime ago?
Dodgy's site needs updating!
Happy hunting, Cheers, Doug
PS I strongly suspect that they'll be happy to sell you a kit but not the plans alone.
If you don't ask .... 😉

Hi Don,
Afraid all you'll find on Dodgy's site are a few photos and the following addresses
(as an image I'm afraid, not hyperlinks!) Copyright reasons I guess.
So here's the 'horse's mouth', so to neigh 😉
http://www.vintagemodelboats.com

http://lesromodels.com.uk

Cheers, Doug 😎

He he!
Hi Jacko, that's Dodgygeezer's site!😉
(Or one of them?
Cheers, Doug 😎

not Aerokit but take a look at
http://eezebilt.tk/Sea%20Princess.pdf
http://eezebilt.tk/plans.html
Keil Kraft EeZeBilts
all plans on there
i built this one 23inch long

Cheers Doug

Just PMd him

Hi Don,
I think this might be one for our 'Dodgygeezer'!?
(The Third Man!?)
He runs a site with some vintage plans.
Doug