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๐ฌ Re: A month long running knife fight
9 days ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Absolutely Outstanding David!!! And many thanks for the good wishes! What an inspiration!!! I only hope I can achieve just a portion of what you and the builder have here. This made my DAY!!!
๐๐ I believe at a meter sheโs 1/8th scale, mine is 1/10 at 30.5 inches. When you have the time let us know your means of propulsion? Dying to know if itโs like Earnie Lazenbyโs. Again, many thanks for your posting! ๐ ▲
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9 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DBS88 (
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I wish you every success with this exciting venture, running a K7 at speed is absolutely thrilling- I am fortunate enough to look after this one ( I didnโt build it) itโs about a metre long. The builder wanted it to look right on the water - I believe he achieved that very well. Hereโs a link to a video of my K7 running fast.
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๐ฌ Re: A month long running knife fight
9 days ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Thank you Bob and Alessandro!
Your kind words mean so much to me. When I next return to the bench I will send more pix of these latest developments. I know this particular build is off the beaten path for me, being a 3D print, that's why I am approaching it as a "grand experiment." The idea being that I would try to achieve a semi-scale speed with a decent "rooster tail" and get it on film. It'll take some doing and I'd like to start a traditional large scale Chris Craft build and finish the rigging on my freighter, but the quest continues. It's good to keep my brain engaged and working! ๐๐๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: A month long running knife fight
9 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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When a colour is used on a smaller scale model it needs to be a little lighter than the original to look โrightโ, so choosing a lighter shade to paint your model is not wrong.
If you copied the exact RAL shade number blindly, your model would look too dark. Common sense and what looks โrightโ is far more authentic than blindly copying the label on the tin! Well done! Bob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: A month long running knife fight
9 days ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Jumpugly, I admire your tenacity and determination.
I love the precision (super precision) in your search for the exact color; anyone else would have been satisfied. I'm very intrigued by the processes you described. I invite you to post photos if you have them. If you didn't take photos of the creation and experimentation stages, do so next time because they're very helpful. This way, a message can be transformed into a tutorial for others. Bravissimo! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Real Deal
29 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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That gas turbine powered Bluebird model is superb, very stable at speed and it turns well enough too.
Just about perfect, with the sound track to match. The onboard shots show the Perspex side guards doing their job to keep the spray from being ingested into the turbine intakes, but they may not be needed depending on the propulsion method chosen for other Bluebird models. Bob. ▲
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30 days ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Hi Boatshed:
I am torn about the color, but like your suggestion. Here is my early color test chip. The Tamiya TS-10 was the color I used for my (lost in a house fire) Touchwood Models K7. I was a wonderful kit and perfectly cast, broke my heart to loose it. But, still loving the TS-10. ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Real Deal
30 days ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Bob! I bet you saw Ernie Lazenby's turbine powered Bluebird model. It's a beauty!!! I wish I could afford to go this way!!!
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๐ฌ Re: The Real Deal
30 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Now that Bluebird has returned to the lakes museum, I hope to drive up to Conniston and spent some time admiring it.
The whole history of this speed craft and its eventual rediscovery underwater and its recovery from the lake โฆflowed by its restorationโฆand its following ownership battle is something that I find very interesting. Seeing a turbine powered model on our Southport lake some time ago further fueled my interest, so it is an itch that needs scratching. During a weeks fell walking when I stayed in Windermere I wanted to see Bluebird, but she was โnot at homeโ, so I returned home very disappointed (and caught Covid - but no glimpse of Bluebird!). Hopefully after seeing it, I will resist the urge to start making a turbine powered scale model of it as I fear it could easily become an โall consumingโ episode that I know I should not startโฆ.but the Bluebird is a very special craftโฆโฆ Bob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Real Deal
30 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง BOATSHED (
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Hi Junpugly,
Have you thought of trying a small mix of bot RAL 5009 and RAL 5015. Just to see if that would lighten it up a bit to your liking. Adding white may be just too much of a hit to the colour. Just a suggestion, or experiment?? That's what I would try. But I am a bit odd at times to say the least. ๐ค. I do love the model though, wish I could have a model of her. She is an amazing boat, so sad about what happened to her. I did follow the rebuild of her. I would love to be there when she is back out on the water for her next run. Not sure thought when that is or which Loch it's going to be on. Ullswater possibly ?? ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Real Deal
30 days ago by ๐บ๐ธ Chum444 (
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Superb job on the sportfish Jump!
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๐ฌ Re: The Real Deal
1 month ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Hi Chris! The bluebird colors definitely varied over the decades. After some research I discovered that some of Sir Malcolmโs cars were painted in a slightly lighter pearlized blue, that would sometimes shift color depending on the weather outside.
It seems that the K7 was a bit lighter in the early variants, but the Azure Blue became something of a constant over the last couple of years of it record-breaking life. Be that as it may, Iโm starting to like the RAL 5015 too! Hence, I may throw caution to the wind and go lighter. But first I am going to do some experiments with a very light white primer and letโs see how those tests work out before I try to apply a lighter blue over the Azure. ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Real Deal
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Can't really argue with that I suppose! Do you know if the same blue was used on the record breaking cars? I saw one in a museum many years ago and had a model and always thought it was a brighter shade and other models of the boat I've seen posted looked similar.
Perhaps its just that RAL 5015 looks a nicer blue! ๐๐ค Just had a Google and one of the cars looks the same colour as the boat. Trouble is there are lots of models/toys which are a brighter blue. Trouble is that colour on models versus the full-size can fool the eye. With my Fairey builds the oft used dark blue looks far too dark to me and so I'm using a slightly lighter hue - not a problem with my builds as a number of colours were/are used and none are as historic as Bluebird! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Real Deal
1 month ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Hi Chum:
That's an ancient Lindberg 40' Chris Craft Sport fisherman kit. I heavily kit-bashed it with the marlin bridge etc. It was a high water- mark for Lindberg way back in the day (circa 1965). IMHO Rumor has it that the kit was pulled when the hull mold (the most important part) was destroyed on the production line during the 1984 re-release. I understand that Atlantis, who now owns the Lindberg molds, may try to sort it out some day for the RC crowd. New-in-Box originals go for monster $$$ these days. I have a spare kit (still boxed) that needs some work that I hope to fully motorize some day. This old gal was a used, partially built glue bomb that I restored, kit-bashed, and turned into a shelf queen. I love it. I've included the scalemates history... ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Real Deal
1 month ago by ๐บ๐ธ Chum444 (
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Whoa! Whatโs that sportfisherman in the background?
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๐ฌ Re: First paint...
30 days ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Hi Stu! There is a gentleman in the UK that does very nice, but slightly heavy, 3D prints in 1/10 and 1/8th scale to order. They are a bit pricey.
The original idea was to propel it with a 90 mm ducted fan, but weight issues with the printing make that pretty much impossible. So I have opted to go with a water cooled Traxxas brushless prop system that may get it go plane, but suspect I will have to go very big with the motor and monster lipo batteries. Ideally, the best solution would be a jet turbine, but the cost is way out of me league. Not to mention, my total lack of experience with that form of propulsion. ๐ ▲
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30 days ago by ๐บ๐ธ StuS1 (
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Love to build one! Where to get one please? Very nice looking boat for sure!
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๐ฌ Re: First paint...
1 month ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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As confirmed by the Bluebird team adminโฆ
โI can confirm that the Bluebird K7 restoration team have used RAL 5009 Azure Blue.โ But, I still might make a change. Going to have to think long and hard about this. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: First paint...
1 month ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Hi Chris! Yes, your instinct is the way I am currently leaning as well. I have submitted this chart to the Bluebird Team. I am dying to know what they say. More to follow and...
Thank you! ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: First paint...
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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I'd say that RAL 5015 would be more like it?
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๐ฌ Re: First paint...
1 month ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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๐ฌ Re: First paint...
1 month ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Thanks for the kind words gang! I have submitted this photo to the Bluebird team in the UK. It will interesting to see how they react.
Phil, I def did this paint on three different primer tests including white. It's great paint that covered evenly in all three cases, which was shocking to me. Be that as it may...I may actually will do a finish coat in a lighter color as I, like Alessadro, am a bit concerned about loosing it (visually) out on the lake when the time comes. The experiment continues! We shall see. ๐ค ▲
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๐ฌ Re: First paint...
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง PhilH (
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It looks like a blue lobster coming on well.
If you want it lighter ter white primer that may brighten it up a bit . Philuk๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: First paint...
1 month ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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It's a beautiful blue, Jumpugly (great master of color), but will you be able to see it well in the water?
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๐ฌ Re: Primer?
1 month ago by ๐บ๐ธ Chum444 (
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Unfortunately I think you will find that paint doesnโt hide defects; it magnifies them particularly when you apply the gloss coat.
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๐ฌ Re: Primer?
1 month ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Perfect
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๐ฌ Re: Not the bossesโ pool
1 month ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Very good
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๐ฌ Re: Ballast and leak check...
1 month ago by ๐บ๐ธ Cashrc (
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Chum, I did the same thing when I was looking for the leak in my Puffer. Now leaks at bow or stern, but as I was holding her I felt water on one of my fingers, and there was a chip in the gel coat at the very bottom of the hull that was letting in water. Sometimes, ya gotta do what works no matter how crazy that idea is.
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1 month ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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CHUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll be damned! Your way NEVER occurred to me! And you know what, I'mm going to give it a shot to make doubly sure! Will report back and thanks in advance!!! ๐๐๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Ballast and leak check...
1 month ago by ๐บ๐ธ Chum444 (
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Jump, I had a leak I absolutely could not find while building THUNDER. Somewhat in desperation I decided to fill the hull with water so I could see where it ran out! Worked like a charm.
Hmmm. Read the latest thread knucklehead! Sorry Jump I posted this before I saw you had found the leak. My Bad! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Paint and Micro Balloons
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง PhilH (
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Looking real good well done be interesting to see how it sails .
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2 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Yessir Cash! Micro Balloons sped up the Z-Poxy cure by about 12 hours!
Worked great! And dried dried hard as stone. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Paint and Micro Balloons
2 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ Cashrc (
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Hi Jump. IMHO Micro Ballonโs are the โbombโ. Work great, I like to use a little filler in my epoxies and that or baby powder is my go to. Have to be careful though, as some fillers will make the epoxy start curing faster.
Canโt wait to see the K7 in action!! Cash ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Paint color success!
2 months ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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No sweat Jump,
Bin around that particular barbecue myself a few times.๐ ๐ ▲
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2 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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This is fabulous Doug! Many thanks!!! Honestly, you guys are the BEST!!!
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๐ฌ Re: Paint color success!
2 months ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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Hi Jump,
5009 is a standard RAL colour code, see attached links. Including PPG a company in Pittsburg๐ So any mix station worth it's salt should be able to create it for you. RAL colour 'fans' are also easily available. Cheers, Doug๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Paint color success!
2 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Truth be told. I didnโt even think if that Phil. Hmmmm, but I will contact MBP and see if there is a diff code over here, I suspect it is different.
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๐ฌ Re: Paint color success!
2 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง PhilH (
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Can't you get it mixed by using the code or are the codes different over the pond.
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๐ฌ Re: Follow-up
2 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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I do understand the problems of working on 3D printed plastics.
One of my other interests is making 1:16 scale r/c model tanks. My current project is a British Conquerer from the cold war period, and it has been 3D printed. I never had any idea that this plastic was so tough and hard to sand, file or cut ! At least once you have battled your way through it you should be fairly confident that you will have a good strong model ! ▲
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2 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Last year I saw a visitor to our Southport Club lake (mid-week) who had been running his jet powered Bluebird - just before I arrived.
It was not as successful as he had hoped as he had a few more teething problems to sort out before putting it back in the water, but I was able to admire it and its Wren jet engine at close quarters. No ic engines are permitted on our club lake, but nobody else was around, and it would take a cold heart to turn away a Bluebirdโฆ โฆ..and I am not aware of any rules against jet engines - but I am sure it would have been frowned upon if there had been anyone else on the lake . I was more than happy to wait around (just incase), but the model was due to return to the workshop before it was run again, so I never did get to see it in action. Sadly this was not a local model so I am unlikely to see it again. ๐ฅ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Follow-up
2 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Morning Ed!
Yes I have. A great page that shows the dedication to Bluebird. As for the modelโฆitโs an incredible build with an extraordinary propulsion set-up done the right way. I noticed right away that Ernie Lazenby's son Ian chimes in too. His father built a turbine powered 1/8th scale Bluebird that planed at scale speeds. I don't think I'll hit scale speeds with this heavy monster as most "scale" K-7's are built ups and not a scale 3D print. There was no way a 90mm EDF was going to move this print of mine. But, I hope to get her to at least plane with a decent rooster tail. ๐๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Follow-up
2 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง EdW (
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Hi Jump, donโt know if you have seen this one
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