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    Aerokits 1962 34.5" RAF Crash Tender rebuild, including interior.
    by EdH ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ( Warrant Officer)
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    ๐Ÿ“ RAF Crash Tender maiden run
    3 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Brought the Wesmac and this winter's RAF Crash Tender to my local model club meet. First time for the Tender and I was happy with her performance, but not with my photography. Will bring a tripod next time! When you run models at far greater scale speeds than the original, instability is always a risk, but she was very steady even in tight turns. With the finished interior, figures and added details, she is quite a bit heavier than intended, which might well have helped. She was at full throttle once in the video, towards the beginning, just after passing the other boat. I particularly liked the way she flattened out at speed. The massive Wesmac seemed to dwarf the tender but at 34.5", she's not that small! An enjoyable day with like minded souls and their beautifully made models. Hope the video loads ok! Ed
    RAF Crash Tender first run
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: RAF Crash Tender maiden run
    3 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Well worth waiting for Ed.

    She cut through the water beautifully.
    Great job.

    Martin555.
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    3 months ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Runs very nicely, great job!
    JB
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: RAF Crash Tender maiden run
    3 months ago by robbob ( Commodore)
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    Great looking boat Ed, performs really well on the water.
    I have some video of my Fire Boat but I had to get another club member to run it while I filmed, It's impossible to do both things yourself !
    Robbob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: RAF Crash Tender maiden run
    3 months ago by Colin H ( Commodore)
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    Superb, nothing else to say.
    Keep up the good work.
    Cheers Colin.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: RAF Crash Tender maiden run
    3 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Rob, I had a club member running it and still managed to mess up the photography. Part of the trouble was the sun made it hard to see the camera screen and my camera doesn't let me look through the viewfinder for video. Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: RAF Crash Tender maiden run
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    Crash tender looks really good Ed, hope mine looks and performs anything like as well when I can eventually get to the lake to try her out. I am also interested in the other boats you photographed particularly the sailless Thames Barge. I presume she has been built as a model of an auxiliary barge. Would love to hear a bit more about her. The fishing boat too, she looked interesting,

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Concerned Doctor
    4 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    For some reason I missed posting the concerned doctor, done a while ago. He was made the same way as the previous figures. Not sure how he would be dressed, but put him in a white coat so it was a little more obvious who he was.

    I want to add a figure on deck, operating the forward fire hose. I purposely pointed this hose high in the air, so the figure can be kneeling, giving a larger area to attach and less chance of breakage by a grandson! He could either have one knee on the ground like the guy to the left, or both like the guy on the right. Suggestions?

    Where I really need HELP is how he would be dressed. I was thinking some kind of oilskin, but I'm not sure if it should be yellow. The picture isn't much help as I believe, as someone else said, that this was a builder's demonstration run picture. Maybe even Vosper employees! Suggestions very welcome!

    I'm going to put this on hold for a bit, as I put the floats in last week and we are getting ready to play with real boats! We have to make the most of the boating season in Maine. My daughter sends me pictures of tree blossoms and beautiful flowers in London but here the daffodils are just starting (2" little green shoots!).
    Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Concerned Doctor
    4 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Ed,

    I bet you enjoyed making the figures and you had to think about how to pose them.

    As for the future on the deck i think on one knee would look more dramatic.
    Unfortunately as for what he should be wearing i am unable to help.

    Martin555.
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    4 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    I was surprised I didn't get more people weighing in on this, as in the past this site has been a good source for information, even when, as in this case, no one often really knows the answers to the question! Love to hear what people think my guy would be wearing. Need some constructive help and inspiration here! Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Concerned Doctor
    4 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi EdH.
    I don't know if this is of any use.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Concerned Doctor
    4 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Thanks Martin. It looks like those not in formal uniform are wearing Guernsey style sweaters. That's a possible idea. Not sure I'm going to give him a cap though. That would be tough to keep on while hanging on to those hoses! Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Concerned Doctor
    4 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "I was surprised I didn't get more people weighing in on this, as in the past this site has been a good source for information, ..."
    Don't panic Ed!! The site still is๐Ÿ˜Š
    Just like you (playing with real boats) folks get involved in other things at this time of year (Northern Hemisphere!)
    E.g. I've just been seconded to the Parks and Gardens Dept. AGAIN๐Ÿ˜ 

    Don't worry about your Doc.
    Boats like this wouldn't have had a Doc (MO) anyway. Just a Medic.
    In the Navy a PO or CPO I expect.
    So probably a Warrant Officer or Flight Sargent in the RAF?
    The white coat wouldn't have been very practical, or warm, in the North Sea or the Channel๐Ÿค”
    Give him an RAF blue sweater an' a tin 'at๐Ÿ‘
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    PS I guess he would have taken off his oilskin when he went inside๐Ÿ˜‰
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Concerned Doctor
    4 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Martin,
    Those guys are definitely Navy MTB crews. The ociffers are 'Wavy navy'๐Ÿ˜‰
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Concerned Doctor
    4 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Thanks Doug, but for better or for worse, the doc is done and glued in place, white overalls and all! The figure I need help with is the guy manning the forward fire hose on deck, to be done some time in the reasonably near future. I posted an old time picture, but it's hard to see what they are wearing. It's definitely not yellow though! Thanks. Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Concerned Doctor
    4 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Ed,
    Depends how you want to depict your boat!
    In RAF service or on yard trials?
    Your pic is definitely from the yard trials, probably black overalls.
    I've seen that photo with such a caption some time ago.
    Given that there's a patient and 'doc' aboard I guess in RAF service.
    Therefore give him RAF working uniform / tunic.
    Or sweater, RAF trousers and sea boots.
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    PS paint the doc's overalls RAF blue๐Ÿ‘
    Maybe with a red cross on his shoulder?
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Concerned Doctor
    4 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Thanks, this is helpful Doug! So the working uniform would be a jacket and trousers, all dark blue? Perhaps a crew neck sweater underneath?

    I had also heard this picture was taken during the delivery and these were employees.

    The doc would be too difficult to change at this point. He's glued to his bunk and only accessible from above!

    Thanks again. Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Concerned Doctor
    4 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Ed,
    "So the working uniform would be a jacket and trousers, all dark blue?"
    First off; colour would be RAF blue, not dark navy blue.
    RAF blue is a much lighter greyish blue.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_blue
    In tropical zones white or stone / khaki, shorts & short sleeved shirts.
    But I don't think 93 & 94 were ever deployed in warm zones during their short service lives.

    Only the occifers (Flying Officer or Flight Looie?) would wear jacket, trousers and flat 'ats.
    Non Coms (WO, Flight Sgt or Chief tech?) and Erks probably Battle Dress type tunics and soft caps.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_uniform#Battle_Dress_19...
    Duffle coats (khaki?) and blue sweaters in cold weather, oilskins and life vests in stormy weather?
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    PS Figured that with the 'doc' ๐Ÿค”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_blue
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_uniform#Battle_Dress_1939%E2%80%931970
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Concerned Doctor
    4 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    This is great. Thanks Doug.
    Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Concerned Doctor
    4 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Mon plaisir Ed๐Ÿ˜‰
    Looking forward to see your crew busily busying themselves - "Two six"!!
    And the 'weather conditions' you subject them to๐Ÿ˜
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    PS FOR NERYS!
    Since you've painted your Tender in a warm climate scheme your crew could be 'lounging about' sunbathing in white shorts n shirts, or topless!!๐Ÿ˜ฎ
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    ๐Ÿ“ Fold down mast rigged
    4 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    The metal mast is rigged. The forward cleats are split pins with epoxy sanded to shape. The aft cleats are rectangular brass with a brass pin. After cleaning windows etc., permanently glued the wheelhouse roof on, sealing this area.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fold down mast rigged
    4 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    She looks superb Ed ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    Some good 'scratching' tips here Ed๐Ÿ‘
    Split pins are handy versatile items for us shipbuilders.
    Used the other way up they made great stanchions for my U25.
    (Please ignore the rude crew member in the pic๐Ÿ™„)
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fold down mast rigged
    4 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Captain Nerys,
    Welcome aboard.
    Was that you I just saw magnifying the pic of my rude crew member? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    Tush tush! ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
    Hm! I see your Flag Officer (Commodore) Board is coming up soon!
    OK OK I'm goin' ashore now๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜Œ
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fold down mast rigged
    4 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Doug, I use split pins a lot. One of my favorites was the chain plates for a Bristol Channel Pilot a couple of years ago. One side of the pin was bent 90 degrees and epoxyed into a bulkhead, while two smaller pins held it against the side of the boat. It was so strong you could lift the (heavy) boat by the shrouds!
    I was wondering if doing a weekly build blog on a past scratch build is frowned on. Every one of my boats has been built in a different way (some radically different!) so they might be of interest, but I don't know if it should be a current project. I only do one a winter! Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fold down mast rigged
    4 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "I was wondering if doing a weekly build blog on a past scratch build is frowned on."
    On the contrary Ed,
    It would be most welcome๐Ÿ‘
    What difference does it make if it was done last week, last year or ... ?
    Main thing is what did you 'scratch' and how!!๐Ÿ˜
    Looking forward to it.

    " .. one a winter" That's far better than my completion rate the last few years Ed!
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ“ Anchor, chain, hawsepipe
    4 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    The anchor chain that Graham sent to me arrived yesterday. He wouldnโ€™t accept money for the item or the international postage to the US. I post on 4 Facebook pages and Instagram, so, without using your name Graham, plenty of modelers now know about your random act of kindness! The chain is naturally quite delicate and I imagined it would end up broken if left to flop around on deck, so I replicated the cabin top and deck with scrap wood and ran CA glue down the chain to make it rigid, moving it to the model when dry. Thank you Graham, both for the chain and the kind gesture which left a good feeling in these strange times!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Anchor, chain, hawsepipe
    4 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nice one Graham๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Anchor, chain, hawsepipe
    4 months ago by Graham93 ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Hi Ed, glad it arrived safely in these difficult times.

    Like the superglue approach. The chain on my Crash Tender is just attached at the ends. Itโ€™s been OK so far, but if I loose it, I now know what to do with the replacement ๐Ÿ˜€

    Graham93
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    ๐Ÿ“ Wheelhouse Roof
    4 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Although the hatch opens, the wheelhouse roof cannot be removed, so decided to add more light to show the details inside. Put 6 concealed bulbs in the ceiling, as well as a spotlight and masthead light. These bulbs were advertised as white but there's a very slight blue caste, which goes away if you up the voltage slightly over the rated 3v. Of course they then get very hot and the only way to replace an LED is to cut the roof off! The bulbs are tiny - 1.4 millimeters!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Wheelhouse Roof
    4 months ago by MouldBuilder ( Captain)
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    Unfortunately, a higher voltage will also shorten their service life.๐Ÿ˜Š
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Wheelhouse Roof
    4 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "These bulbs were advertised as white but there's a very slight blue caste"
    Hi Ed,
    When buying your white LEDs look out for the Kelvin temperature rating!
    A lower kelvin number mean the light appears more yellow; higher kelvin numbers mean the light is whiter or bluer. LEDs are made to match the colour of incandescent bulbs at 2700-3000K. If you prefer a whiter light, look for bulbs marked 3500-4100K. For bluer white light, look for bulbs marked 5000-6500K.

    Yours must have been in the 5000 plus range๐Ÿค”
    1.4mm is typical for SMD LEDs or the 'strip' LEDs sold by the yard!
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Wheelhouse Roof
    4 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Doug, I was misled by the salesman who was not totally honest. There was no Kelvin number quoted but he made a point of saying how white they were. Itโ€™s not a problem and not too noticeable unless the voltage drops, plus I only paid $5 for 50 of them! Maybe not quoting the kelvin should have been a sign. Our house is full of LEDs and we are very careful what we buy. Was my own fault but it doesnโ€™t look bad!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Wheelhouse Roof
    4 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Evenin' Ed,
    Salesman may not have been dishonest, just plain higorant!๐Ÿค”

    For a similar price I recently bought a 15m roll of such mini LEDs, one LED about every 3.5cm
    Divisible in 10cm chunks, each chunk with 2 independent rows side by side of 3 LEDs each.
    Complete with dropping resistors!! Add 12V to the end of any section of 3 (or several in series) and 'Let there be light'๐Ÿ’ก๐Ÿ˜Š
    I'm using some 'chunks' to convert a few of my old halogen bulb lamps.
    Also occurred to me that I could use longer strips to illuminate some portholes in for instance; Titanic (what else๐Ÿ™„), Bismarck, Belfast,KGV, Ark Royal etc etc.
    Funny though, I don't remember joining the Illuminati!๐Ÿ˜
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
    Don't get too 'lit up' in isolation๐Ÿ˜ฎ
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    ๐Ÿ“ Electronics and running gear
    4 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Electronics and running gear were a bit of a challenge as the fake engine room insert had to be large enough to be realistic which left very little space underneath it. There's just 1/8" clearance above the flexible coupling and the lower end is resting on the connecting strip screws! The motor is forward under the center cockpit and there's a wall panel at the aft end of the sickbay that snaps out for access to the screws if the motor needs to be changed. The 60 amp ESC is tucked under the aft cockpit switch panel, with a ventilation screen cut into the fake engine room. Not as neat as I would have liked but everything had to fit in a very small space.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Electronics and running gear
    4 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    You have done a good job of getting all of that in.
    Well done.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Kent Clear View Screen and fold down mast
    5 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Wanted to include the Kent clear view screen. I've driven boats with them and they really work! Ground down a black plastic washer to make it thinner. Cut the end off a metal tube for the center and filled it with epoxy. The drive mechanism should be behind the glass, but this was a lot easier and isn't that noticeable!
    Also started on the fold down mast. Made it from brass tubing, but had to be careful not to let solder clog up passages as the masthead light wiring had to be threaded through.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Kent Clear View Screen and fold down mast
    5 months ago by marky ( Captain)
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    Excellent work looking very Good,wee deviation ,during the late 60s early 70s you could get a visor for a motorcycle helmet with a disc that spun round to meet the visor clear of rain using wind power rather than a motor ,don't know how effective or efficient they were.
    Cheers Marky๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ“ The stand
    5 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    The stand. I enjoy designing them differently for every model, attaching in 4, 3 or even 2 places! They have to hold the model securely, be comfortable to lift and carry, yet appear elegantly simple! Made this one in Poplar wood, but instead of clear coating it as normal, I used a light grey/green colored stain as there is so much grey in this model. Being a stain, the wood still shows through. A light spray of clear coat protects it.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The stand
    5 months ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    Nice well designed and thought out stand, perhaps I'll rethink the one I made for my crash tender.

    Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The stand
    5 months ago by MouldBuilder ( Captain)
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    Very nice stand. Do you take orders for dining room table and chairs?๐Ÿ˜
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The stand
    5 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Sorry Peter, only for family! Ed ๐Ÿ˜€
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    ๐Ÿ“ Homemade Hawsepipe and Fairleads
    5 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    The set of accessories for the RAF Crash Tender did not include a hawsepipe for the anchor chain and was missing two aft fairleads. I made a 90 degree bend in some brass pipe, making some aggressive V cuts on the inside, filling in gaps with epoxy and sanding to shape. The base was made by adding two additional sleeves, then cutting, leaving a lip. Painted, then distressed with lacquer. Now all I need 3" of fine chain but at this time it's not worth visiting the stores or ordering such a small amount online. The two aft fairleads I made in wood and painted them the same way. I think the accessory set meant me to use cleats aft instead, but the original had cleats further forward and fairleads aft!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Homemade Hawsepipe and Fairleads
    5 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nice work Ed.
    Altho tricky to do you get more satisfaction knowing that you made it yourself.
    Well done.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Homemade Hawsepipe and Fairleads
    5 months ago by Graham93 ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Hi Ed,

    Looking good.

    I had to buy more chain than I needed for my Crash Tender, so if you want 3" just send me your address in a PM and I'll post you a length.

    regards Graham93
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Homemade Hawsepipe and Fairleads
    5 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Graham, that's very kind, but we live in the US, so postage would be more than if we were in the UK and I'm not sure how I could get funds to you! Hope you are fairing ok in these crazy times. Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Homemade Hawsepipe and Fairleads
    5 months ago by Graham93 ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Hi Ed,

    Didnโ€™t realise you were in the US - missed the tiny flag at the top of the page!

    The postage cost is minimal, and I wasnโ€™t expecting any funds, so the offer still stands. It will take a while to get to you though.

    I can class the walk to the Post box as my permittted once a day โ€˜exerciseโ€™ in these difficult times.
    Graham93
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Homemade Hawsepipe and Fairleads
    5 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Graham, this really is incredibly kind. I will PM you with the info. Thank you. Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Homemade Hawsepipe and Fairleads
    5 months ago by Graham93 ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Ed,

    I think at times like this, anything we can do to help one another is worthwhile. I know how annoying it is when you just need a little bit of something and it is not worth the carriage charges to order it, and we are under restrictions which mean you can't get to the store for it. Most stores in the UK are now shut for visitors unless you need food or medication.

    graham93
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    ๐Ÿ“ Painting and enhancing fittings
    5 months ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Painted the set of soft metal fittings (still made 58 years after my Dad and I built this model, though quality has slipped a bit). The lifebelt was virtually a plain metal ring, so to make it more realistic (like others on this site), I epoxied a rope around it, using CA glue to make the 90 degree bends rigid. I wanted to show the bindings more realistically, but wanted to paint the threads before mounting them, so instead of winding them on directly, I made a frame, wound fine cotton around it, soaked the threads in CA glue and painted them. When dry, I cut the cotton into lengths, bent them around the lifebelt and glued.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Painting and enhancing fittings
    5 months ago by MouldBuilder ( Captain)
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    Nicely done. They all look very good.๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Painting and enhancing fittings
    5 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Neat Ed๐Ÿ‘
    Like the way you've 'caught' all that stuff on fishing poles!!๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Painting and enhancing fittings
    5 months ago by Georgeconna ( Leading Seaman)
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    Just wandering through the forum now!

    Wow that Hull came up really Fantastic
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Painting and enhancing fittings
    5 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Re "Wow that Hull came up really Fantastic "
    George,
    Check out my Sea Scout restoration blog as well for blow by blow hull restoration!
    https://model-boats.com/blogs/28209#44512
    Just one of many tutorials on restoring the old 'Woodies' on this site ๐Ÿ˜Š
    Happy wandering๐Ÿ‘
    (Thinks, what was that song about a Happy Wanderer? Senior memory๐Ÿ™„)
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    https://model-boats.com/blogs/28209#44512
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