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📝 Spray Paining problem....
3 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent (
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Thanks for all the feedback guys - I reckon it was mainly too much paint in one go ! but clearly other important aspects that Martin detailed - thanks for the "primer" (!) on spray painting ! I think I needed it.......as I probably did not do any of your important items particularly well !! Too many short cuts.
I think I need to set up a proper paint shop indoors ....the wife will love it !
I have also learnt that I will try one piece at a time - rather than get a bad result on all my decks at once ! Cheers for now
I think I need to set up a proper paint shop indoors ....the wife will love it !
I have also learnt that I will try one piece at a time - rather than get a bad result on all my decks at once ! Cheers for now
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📝 Spray Paining problem....
3 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Trying to move my Crash tender restoration forward ....but running into paint problems.
I am desparately trying to spray paint finish the cabin roofs - white. I am using Halfords spray paints. I applied a grey primer initially (as that was all I had at time...) then applied a coat of gloss white - but coverage was rubbish as one can imagine. So I decided to go for a white primer over the top. I had hoped the Halfords spray paints would have been totally compatible...but this is what I got ! Does anyone have an idea what casued this as I dont want to go through the painful experience of resanding back to smooth again !
Is it too much spray applied or too cold ( temp in garage was likley 8-10C) or incompatible paint coatings - primer over gloss ( but both Halfords)...Any suggestions welcomed...😀😀
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I am desparately trying to spray paint finish the cabin roofs - white. I am using Halfords spray paints. I applied a grey primer initially (as that was all I had at time...) then applied a coat of gloss white - but coverage was rubbish as one can imagine. So I decided to go for a white primer over the top. I had hoped the Halfords spray paints would have been totally compatible...but this is what I got ! Does anyone have an idea what casued this as I dont want to go through the painful experience of resanding back to smooth again !
Is it too much spray applied or too cold ( temp in garage was likley 8-10C) or incompatible paint coatings - primer over gloss ( but both Halfords)...Any suggestions welcomed...😀😀
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - Fire monitor - handle attachment
3 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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OK - a couple of useful ideas....thanks guys. Peter
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - Fire monitor - handle attachment
3 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Rob, I have just spoken to Roy at SLEC and he says he has made this joint OK with araldite and holding in place.......so perhaps I will give that a go first....! Thanks for your input - Peter
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - Fire monitor - handle attachment
3 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Rob, thanks for engaging on this topic. There really is not enough "meat" on the monitor moulding to drill a hole to take the brass rod......so I am here just looking at a "butt" joint of the end of the brass rod and a fiddly monitor moulding!
Perhaps its worth contacting SLEC?
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Perhaps its worth contacting SLEC?
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - Fire monitor - handle attachment
3 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Rob, yes thats it. My fittings are from SLEC....the brass rod forming the operators handles need to fix to the monitor body somehow......? any good ideas of joing the brass rod to the dye cast metal ? Cheers Peter.
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - Fire monitor - handle attachment
3 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Trying to move my 36" RAF Crash Tender restoration forward- I purchased set of deck fittings etc including fire monitors. However I am struggling to find a way to attach the brass "handle" to the monitor body ( lead ?) dyecast...... I have tried araldite etc but the contact area is just too small - cross section of 1.5 mm bar onto a semi- round monitor body part.
Has anyone had a successful method to join these two parts ?
Peter
Has anyone had a successful method to join these two parts ?
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3 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Nerys many thanks for that info. Sounds like she had become a hulk before your barge sailing days?
Cheers for now - Peter
Cheers for now - Peter
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📝 Online shop - order / delivery/contact
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Cheers - PM message sorted !
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📝 Online shop - order / delivery/contact
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Martin555, thanks - I cant seem to find his userid in the PM list....could you confirm the userid I need to PM - Cheers.
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📝 Online shop - order / delivery/contact
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Anybody - I ordered several items for my crash tender restoration from the online shop. The money was cleared promptly but nearly 3 weeks later now, I have not had delivery or received any dispatch confirmation - who should I contact and how ? Is there a tel no.? Peter
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💬 Re: Hull preparation and painting
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Nice job Ed - one or two steps ahead of me.....I am also interested in what you mean by "ironing" transfer - waterline anyway....don't they just stick with the self adhesive ?Peter
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💬 Re: Engine room cabin top
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Ed, thanks for your thoughts and layout plan. Re front or aft facing - in practice ventilation cowls or dorade cowls are often rotatable 360 deg - so one can either encourage air flow or reduce it especially if bashing into a head seaway to limit water ingress below ! so I don't think it matters water you commit to on the model. Still not sure whether to rebate by cowls a bit deeper than the lug......will see how it looks in situ on the model before committing....I agree it is amazing you can still pick up bits for these kits so many decades later !.
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💬 Re: Engine room cabin top
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Ed, I have just received my fittings kit from SLEC. I have a query re the ventilation cowls or " dorades". The SLEC pieces have a locating lug but if you install only to this depth - the overall height of the cowl is way bigger than the looks in actual tender photographs. I was thinking of installing them through a hole dia to match the actual cowl stem and so locate them lower and match photos more.....had you had any thought / observations about this?
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📝 Fittings for Aerokits RAF tender
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Nerys, sorry to add to your thread on barges under "Fittings for Areokits RAF tender"...… but hey ho. As a teenager I sailed out of Hollowshore ( at Jn of Faversham and Oare creeks) in the 1960s' with my Dad and saw many of Lawry Testers "projects" come and go including "Orinoco" after he had apparently raised from the seabed and then rebuilt/refitted her at his yard/slipway there. She still sails out of Ironwharf at Faversham now. Took my first pints of cider then the local ale " sludge" drawn from the cask at the "Shipwrights Arms" and staggered to my bunk when too many waiting for the tide.....which always seemed to be at 3 am !! Lawrys' wife was the fiesty barmaid back then ! Of course Lawry sadly passed I think not making it back to another one of his barges " Hydrogen" which he had finally as a live aboard in Faversham Creek. Happy days...… Peter.
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💬 Re: Forward cabin tops done
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Ed, thanks for the motivation.....perhaps I will try textured decks.....what is the full spec of the Rust-Oleum product you used as I cannot see the full can label....I get Rust-oleum Multi-color Textured....but when I google that appears quite a broad range of product...…..cheers Peter
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💬 Re: Forward cabin tops done
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Ed, I see you used Rust-oleum Multi-color texture spray from the can in one of your photos. Clearly available in USA - but I don't think we have exact same product here in UK. I see Rust-oleum "concrete" effect spray that I can get here in Uk but wondered whether it will have same "texture" look as yours..... does your texture arise from sand particles in the spray or what ? Peter
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💬 Re: Forward cabin tops done
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Ed, likewise really nice job on the non-skid and masking....envious......I have to decide whether to bother with this level of detail now as I am about to put in windows and ready for finishing colours...….hmmmm... .not sure I CBA !!!!! for now - Peter
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💬 Re: Windows and decks
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Ed - coming along nicely - I am just a few days behind you with my restoration. I have a couple of queries:
1) Did you manage to get dimensioned wood for the "rub rail" ? if so what size is it ?
2) I noticed you ran rub rail all the way to bow - but I recollect seeing the rail stop somewhere around the forward cabin top - not sure if this was on a photo or someones model..... can you enlighten me ?
3) I wondered why you made aft cabin windows "flush"... I was going to just glue an oversized piece of clear plasticard over the inside oversized...….
4 ) Would adding fine sand into a brushed paint layer on decks work rather than faff with a sprayed texture do you think?
Appreciating your input !!! Cheers Peter
1) Did you manage to get dimensioned wood for the "rub rail" ? if so what size is it ?
2) I noticed you ran rub rail all the way to bow - but I recollect seeing the rail stop somewhere around the forward cabin top - not sure if this was on a photo or someones model..... can you enlighten me ?
3) I wondered why you made aft cabin windows "flush"... I was going to just glue an oversized piece of clear plasticard over the inside oversized...….
4 ) Would adding fine sand into a brushed paint layer on decks work rather than faff with a sprayed texture do you think?
Appreciating your input !!! Cheers Peter
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📝 Ready for Hull and Deck Painting..
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Decking and hatches completed - hull faired and primed and faired again....ready for all over primer...…. RC components located..... put a twin "O" ring seal on top of the rudder post to hopefully limit any water ingress..... Now to get down to painting hull, deck and superstructure colours - going with RAF Medium Sea Grey for superstructure and RAF Dark Sea Grey for deck / aft cockpit.
Still waiting for any clarification on cabin top colours from York Boat Club visit this week !!🤞🤞
Still waiting for any clarification on cabin top colours from York Boat Club visit this week !!🤞🤞
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - need to seal deck hatches, mid-deck and aft cockpit
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Great - gues I will wait to paint my cabin tops until we can get it from the horses mouth 🤞😊 When do you visit the York club? Peter
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - need to seal deck hatches, mid-deck and aft cockpit
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Cheers martin - still confused over cabin top colours...think Im going for the dark sea grey same as decks to give a more camoflagued appearance. Peter
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - need to seal deck hatches, mid-deck and aft cockpit
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Doug, many thanks for the specs....and perhaps slight confusion re the cabin tops colour white or the deck grey. Personally, considering these were built and operated near to "war-time" use - for operation in the channel amongst other places - I would suspect the cabin tops were the dark sea grey as camoflage from the enemy above......not sure I would want to be advertising my whereabouts with gleaming white cabin tops against a dark sea from aircraft above......although photos of the craft are black and white - I cannot see any white looking cabin tops in the actual craft pics. So I am going to go with the Dark Sea Grey for decks and cabin tops. BTW how are folks getting the "non-slip" into deck paint....just adding some form of modelling sand in a weak epoxy mix prior to overspray - or what ?
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - need to seal deck hatches, mid-deck and aft cockpit
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Graham, many thanks for sharing your experience re sealing. BTW what colours have you done on your "93" - specifically the grey on superstructure sides and deck ( I have read that the decks were a darker grey. Any specs on the paint colours you used would be useful.
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - need to seal deck hatches, mid-deck and aft cockpit
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Is there a need to provide any kind of seal on above areas which have possibility to admit water into the hull whilst running ? If so, what have folks found effective / simple ?
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - 34" Aerokits - mid deck camber or flat?
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Nick, many thanks for this sharing...and measurement. I must admit I had taken previous consensus advice and now put a camber on my mid-deck. It worked out a bit more than your measurement off the kit piece.....my camber worked out as 4mm at mid chord.... see pic. But hey- whats 2 mm between friends - for a restoration I cant be too worried.
Hopefully this closes out this query and forum thread - I cant believe there has been so much feedback !!
Thanks everyone who has contributed. A build blog update following shortly as aft cockpit and deck hatches complete. 😀
Hopefully this closes out this query and forum thread - I cant believe there has been so much feedback !!
Thanks everyone who has contributed. A build blog update following shortly as aft cockpit and deck hatches complete. 😀
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📝 Fittings for Aerokits RAF tender
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Ed - have you acquired new fittings or are you installing the originals you may have ? I am in need of a complete new set of fittings for my restoration.....but not really sure of the best place to go for them ( 1/16 scale). Peter
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - 34" Aerokits - mid deck camber or flat?
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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I think you are correct looking at the real-life photo- looks to have a camber. Its easy enough to have this deck follow the roof profile as bulkhead cut to same camber. Thanks for digging up the photo.
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📝 RAF Crash Tender - colours & trim
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Chris many thanks for this detail on trim - could you please confirm which length RAF Crash Tender this measurement was taken off - as you have mentioned both 24" and 48" (?) models...….
BTW being an ancient engineer brought up with slide rules, I can handle any units of dimension from Rods and chains through to mm...….
BTW being an ancient engineer brought up with slide rules, I can handle any units of dimension from Rods and chains through to mm...….
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💬 Re: Hull Stripped out - new bulkheads & cabin structures
4 years ago by 🇬🇧 pmdent ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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Martin - thanks. Yes posting this build blog is helping me generate a lot more traction and enthusiasm to get on more with the restoration....
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