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📝 Completion of project
3 months ago by Hillro (
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Since my last post, I have spent hours and hours working on the rigging with reference to the drawings.
I have great admiration to the ship builders of that time. How these ship rigging is put together must have required a lot of knowledge and design skills. All the different sizes of ropes, blocks and understanding how to control the stresses in the rigging.
This model kit was in a job lot bought on eBay. Lots of bits were missing but there was a good set of plans.
It turns out this is a very rare kit of the 1940s.
I really very please how it has turned out.
I hope you all enjoyed the build.
I have great admiration to the ship builders of that time. How these ship rigging is put together must have required a lot of knowledge and design skills. All the different sizes of ropes, blocks and understanding how to control the stresses in the rigging.
This model kit was in a job lot bought on eBay. Lots of bits were missing but there was a good set of plans.
It turns out this is a very rare kit of the 1940s.
I really very please how it has turned out.
I hope you all enjoyed the build.
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💬 Re: Completion of project
1 month ago by RNinMunich (
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"I really very please how it has turned out."
So you damn well should be Hilly 😀 A superb model, the result of superb craftsmanship, and barrel loads of patience I guess 😉 Your model is as good as or better than many 'Shipyard' and Naval Museum models I have seen during my professional wanderings around the globe. Excellent mind boggling stuff. Well worthy of a decent glass vitrine to show her off as she deserves 👍 Can't wait to see your next creation. All the best, Stay Safe, Cheers, Doug 😎 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Completion of project
3 months ago by mturpin013 (
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What a fantastic job you've made of this model, unfortunately your build seemed to drop off my following radar (much to my annoyance).
However I've been back and read it from the beginning, and its very impressive what you've done, I'm sorry I didn't comment or like as it progressed 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Completion of project
3 months ago by stevedownunder (
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Excellent work Hillro,
A very enjoyable build. Are you intending to build a case to keep your creation safe? Cheers, Stephen. 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Completion of project
3 months ago by jbkiwi (
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Amazing job Hillro, you must have endless patience! Glass case for it next?
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💬 Re: Completion of project
3 months ago by Newby7 (
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You should be pleased a job well done.
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💬 Re: Completion of project
3 months ago by Martin555 (
Fleet Admiral)
Hi Hillro,
Well worth the time you have spent on her. Excellent job. Well done. Martin555. 👍 Like
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📝 Masts,spars,rigging, etc.
3 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Progress has been made on the masts, shrouds, rat tails, etc.
This required a lot of time and patience, involving the tying over 1000 clove hitches.
Now in the process of getting to know the ropes.
Working off the drawing is proving a challenge, having limited knowledge of ships rigging.
That said things are falling into place.
Please note I have found it difficult to get decent photographs due to the scale of the boat.
This required a lot of time and patience, involving the tying over 1000 clove hitches.
Now in the process of getting to know the ropes.
Working off the drawing is proving a challenge, having limited knowledge of ships rigging.
That said things are falling into place.
Please note I have found it difficult to get decent photographs due to the scale of the boat.
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💬 Re: Masts,spars,rigging, etc.
3 months ago by jbkiwi (
Admiral)
Lovely bit of rigging Hillro, you must have been a Boy Scout in your youth😁. Lots of patience required obviously. Great job on the sails as well. I just tried modifying a jib on my old Graupner Optimist, using an old (70s) but flash Bernina, which belonged to my mother, and has all the bells and whistles, but it looks like I was drunk when doing it (even after referring to the manual 20 times and having about 10 false starts)😂.
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💬 Re: Masts,spars,rigging, etc.
3 months ago by Nerys (
Admiral)
Brilliant bit of rigging, must have taken ages to rattle down both those masts. Excellent job with the sails too, I like the way you have done all the panels, that took a lot of stitching. Incidentally, is this a sailing model or a static ?
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💬 Re: Masts,spars,rigging, etc.
3 months ago by RNinMunich (
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Hi Hilly,
"Working off the drawing is proving a challenge, having limited knowledge of ships rigging." You might find some tips and tricks here😉 Might take a while to browse through (get some beer and sandwiches in😁) cos there's 'undreds of 'em! Cheers, Doug 😎 https://www.pinterest.de/prairieseadogs/rigging-ideas/?rcpt=... or https://www.pinterest.de/mickderuyter/watercraft-diagrams/?rcpt=630011572781105997&utm_campaign=rdboards&e_t=ccd4f3760076421a8b5510b3ce2edb9a&utm_source=31&utm_medium=2004&utm_content=320740873401540236&utm_term=1 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#G 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Masts,spars,rigging, etc.
3 months ago by RNinMunich (
Fleet Admiral)
Asbolutley bind moggling Hilly😮
1000+ clove hitches!! You've got those ratlines well and truly knotted. What patience👍 Job very well done Sir. How many decades did you say you've been working on her? Cheers, Doug 😎 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Masts,spars,rigging, etc.
3 months ago by Peejay (
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Looking great!!!
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💬 Re: Masts,spars,rigging, etc.
3 months ago by Ron (
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Museum Quality!
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📝 Prep of Sails
3 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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This came in a preprinted sheet of sails.
Had to invest in a sewing machine £50 from China. I was surprised at its quality and ability to provide 10 different stitches.
I had to practice with some scrap cloth.
Cut out the sails using a disc cutter, leaving a 5mm border to allow folding and stitching.After that hand stitched a cord round the edge of the sail.
As you can imagine this took a bit of time and a LOT of patience.
Had to invest in a sewing machine £50 from China. I was surprised at its quality and ability to provide 10 different stitches.
I had to practice with some scrap cloth.
Cut out the sails using a disc cutter, leaving a 5mm border to allow folding and stitching.After that hand stitched a cord round the edge of the sail.
As you can imagine this took a bit of time and a LOT of patience.
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💬 Re: Prep of Sails
3 months ago by Ron (
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Were you a Tailor before retirement? Such fine detail, you must have a steady hand and excellent eyes.
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📝 Windlass and Anchors
4 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Anchors and associated ropes in place.
Made a start on the rigging. Shrouds in place.
Rat tails are going to take some time and patience.
Made a start on the rigging. Shrouds in place.
Rat tails are going to take some time and patience.
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💬 Re: Windlass and Anchors
4 months ago by Ron (
Captain)
I just viewed the build since the beginning of your work. Truly a fine work of craftsmanship you are displaying. The hours of thought, and planning have paid off to produce this fine model. I, like others look forward to its completion and display.
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💬 Re: Windlass and Anchors
4 months ago by jbkiwi (
Admiral)
Lovely job Hillro, obviously you have truckloads of patience with the fine detail. Looking forward to seeing it in the water.
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💬 Re: Windlass and Anchors
4 months ago by Nerys (
Admiral)
Must say, I like the windlass with the holes for the windlass spikes and the anchor ropes going below for stowage. Quite correct, anchor chain would not yet be in use for this period of ship. Like the cattheads for catting the anchors too.
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📝 Deck fittings
4 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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The ship's boat was carved out of a solid block of wood supplied with the kit. I was not quite sure how to go about it but I chain drilled the internal of the boat and chiseled out the interior. Then a combination of craving and sanding with a dermal.
Cabin made from parts from the kit. The windlass was made from scratch. I did a bit of research on this and you will see the latching mechanism.
I have prepared all the masts and spars but still have to fit some details to the hull like stern Windows.
Cabin made from parts from the kit. The windlass was made from scratch. I did a bit of research on this and you will see the latching mechanism.
I have prepared all the masts and spars but still have to fit some details to the hull like stern Windows.
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💬 Re: Deck fittings
4 months ago by Martin555 (
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Excellent work Hillro.
She is looking better each time we see an update. Keep up the good work. Martin555. 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Deck fittings
4 months ago by Nerys (
Admiral)
What a lovely job you've made of the ship's boat. The whole Galiot looks beautiful. Excellent attention applied to all the woodwork on and even the deck itself. A model to be proud of.
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📝 Decking, and rigging
5 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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I have not posted for some time but I have not been idle.
Decks now planked, caulking simulate with HB pencil.
Not perfect I know, used the pencil point to simulate deck fixings, started this by hand, but soon moved on to a pencil mounted in a drill. speeds up the process!
Masts and Spars
All tapered where required and made all the other bits which I don't know the names. Maybe I should learn and forget just as quickly.
These took some time.
Just as well the kit came with good rigging plans!
Next is the deck furniture, like the anchor winch, deck hatches and cabin.
Decks now planked, caulking simulate with HB pencil.
Not perfect I know, used the pencil point to simulate deck fixings, started this by hand, but soon moved on to a pencil mounted in a drill. speeds up the process!
Masts and Spars
All tapered where required and made all the other bits which I don't know the names. Maybe I should learn and forget just as quickly.
These took some time.
Just as well the kit came with good rigging plans!
Next is the deck furniture, like the anchor winch, deck hatches and cabin.
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💬 Re: Decking, and rigging
5 months ago by Nerys (
Admiral)
I do like this boat, The open rails around the deck, those fancy gudgeons and pintles on the rudder, the planked deck, how could anyone not like. The drawings of the sail plan look quite complicated but from a full size point of view, pretty accurate. How many of the sails will you be able to control with servos? I presume she is to be a working, sailing model. Will you rely on interior ballast or are you planning some sort of removable ballast keel.
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💬 Re: Decking, and rigging
5 months ago by figtree7nts (
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Hi Hillro,
She looks great! I especially like the deck details! Job well done! Cheers, Ed 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Decking, and rigging
5 months ago by Inkoust (
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Hi, very nice and honest work. Good luck. Zdenek👍
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💬 Re: Decking, and rigging
5 months ago by brianupyonder (
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it looks good,rigging looks complicated
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💬 Re: Decking, and rigging
5 months ago by Martin555 (
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Nice work Hillro.
Keep it up. Martin555. 👍 Like
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📝 Double planking complete.
5 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Finally the material to complete planking has arrived.
Finished the main hull planking, i found the rounded bow and stern the most difficult but generally found this first attempt at double planking very satisfying.
Also planked the bulwarks on the inside of the hull.
A few coats of clear varnish certainly brings out the planking.
Next is to progress with the decking, and deck fittings like windlass, hatch covers, cabin, etc.
Finished the main hull planking, i found the rounded bow and stern the most difficult but generally found this first attempt at double planking very satisfying.
Also planked the bulwarks on the inside of the hull.
A few coats of clear varnish certainly brings out the planking.
Next is to progress with the decking, and deck fittings like windlass, hatch covers, cabin, etc.
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💬 Re: Double planking complete.
5 months ago by Nerys (
Admiral)
Your planking looks superb and I do like the contrasting colour planks. You are getting an excellent finish too. I do like the wooden open rails around the decks. This is a model I am longing to see under sail in her natural element.
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💬 Re: Double planking complete.
5 months ago by RNinMunich (
Fleet Admiral)
She looks magnificent Hilly,
If I'd managed that on my first attempt (or even the tenth🙄) my ghast would have been completely flabbered!😮 Keep it up👍 Cheers, Doug 😎 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Double planking complete.
5 months ago by jacko (
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very nice and seems to have a nice shine
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💬 Re: Double planking complete.
5 months ago by brianupyonder (
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looks very nice seems to have a nice shine to it
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💬 Re: Double planking complete.
5 months ago by jbkiwi (
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Great job!
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💬 Re: Double planking complete.
5 months ago by Martin555 (
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For your first time at double planking you have done a fantastic job.
She is really looking good. Well done. Martin555. 👍 Like
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📝 Double Planking
6 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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First go at double planking. I pinned the planks after gluing. Found I had to do a lot of tapering at the bow and stern. I think it looks ok however I am sure it does not look like the real ship.
Run out of mahogany strips. Waiting on deliver from Hobbies.
When the pins are removed, they do leave wee holes however they fill with dust from sanding so disappear.
Run out of mahogany strips. Waiting on deliver from Hobbies.
When the pins are removed, they do leave wee holes however they fill with dust from sanding so disappear.
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💬 Re: Double Planking
6 months ago by Newby7 (
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It does look good don't be hard on yourself.
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💬 Re: Double Planking
6 months ago by Nerys (
Admiral)
Think you've made a very good job of the planking, certainly wouldn't know that it was a first attempt. I'm sure she will look great when nicely varnished and in her natural element.
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💬 Re: Double Planking
6 months ago by Rookysailor (
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If I had done that Hillro, I would be very pleased with myself😊
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💬 Re: Double Planking
6 months ago by Martin555 (
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Looks good to me Hillro.
As i have said not the easiest of jobs to do. Martin555. 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Double Planking
6 months ago by figtree7nts (
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Hi Hillro,
It looks great! Cheers, Ed 👍 Like
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📝 Bulwarks and hand Rails
7 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Hull Planking build up to handrail level. the kit had a plywood handrail but I dumped that and made mahogany ones.
The mahogany used was from lift door surrounds from the 1950s. These were 12"x2" planks. Believe it or not these had be painted over.
Handy having a son who is a lift engineer.
Some advice is required on double planking the hull in mahogany strip.
Do I soak the strips first? What type of glue would you use?
I think this double planking is going to be tricky, any advice welcome.
Thanks in advance.
The mahogany used was from lift door surrounds from the 1950s. These were 12"x2" planks. Believe it or not these had be painted over.
Handy having a son who is a lift engineer.
Some advice is required on double planking the hull in mahogany strip.
Do I soak the strips first? What type of glue would you use?
I think this double planking is going to be tricky, any advice welcome.
Thanks in advance.
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💬 Re: Bulwarks and hand Rails
6 months ago by Nerys (
Admiral)
Martin has said it all, take your time and pay special attention to the joints. I think you will have most trouble on those fat rounded ends. I would use as thin a plank as I could manage, it will bend easier. In fact if you think it needs the thickness, why not two layers. I would soak at least overnight and start off with boiling water, repeating a few times if possible. On the sides it won't matter as much, you shouldn't have any trouble. Best of luck, I've been interested in this model since you started and look forward to following your progress.
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💬 Re: Bulwarks and hand Rails
7 months ago by Newby7 (
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Agree with Martin.Each piece of mahogany needs to be as close as you can keep it.This makes the finished job look good.
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💬 Re: Bulwarks and hand Rails
7 months ago by stevedownunder (
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Hi Hillro,
Sorry I have no experience with this sort of build. Maybe try running a build log on Ships of Scale as well as this site. SOS is more geared to this sort of build. Cheers, Stephen. 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Bulwarks and hand Rails
7 months ago by Martin555 (
Fleet Admiral)
When doing the second layer of planking you should take your time and pay special attention to all the joints.
I have not made many plank on frame models but the glue i used was water proof wood glue. Also soaking the planks helps. You will have to pin them in place until almost dry before gluing. I am sure that other members have more experience on this subject and will be able to help you beat that I. Martin555. 👍 Like
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📝 Hull Planking to deck level
7 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Screwed a block of wood to the deck to allow the hull to be held securely upside down in a vice.
Started planking. Just using the experience gained in Planking other hulls, I just used tapered planks where required. Having a belt sander this is not difficult.
I would say 60% of the planking did not require tapering.Each plank was pinned each frame.
This hull is to be double planked so all that is required is a smooth finish.
At the moment, some shaping of the bow and stern required.
Next stage is how to go about planking the "bulwarks"
Started planking. Just using the experience gained in Planking other hulls, I just used tapered planks where required. Having a belt sander this is not difficult.
I would say 60% of the planking did not require tapering.Each plank was pinned each frame.
This hull is to be double planked so all that is required is a smooth finish.
At the moment, some shaping of the bow and stern required.
Next stage is how to go about planking the "bulwarks"
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💬 Re: Hull Planking to deck level
7 months ago by Newby7 (
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Looks good so far .
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