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    Dutch Gallot trading Vessel, initial research and build.
    by Hillro ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    ๐Ÿ“ Decking, and rigging
    9 days ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    I have not posted for some time but I have not been idle.
    Decks now planked, caulking simulate with HB pencil.
    Not perfect I know, used the pencil point to simulate deck fixings, started this by hand, but soon moved on to a pencil mounted in a drill. speeds up the process!
    Masts and Spars
    All tapered where required and made all the other bits which I don't know the names. Maybe I should learn and forget just as quickly.
    These took some time.
    Just as well the kit came with good rigging plans!
    Next is the deck furniture, like the anchor winch, deck hatches and cabin.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Decking, and rigging
    9 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nice work Hillro.
    Keep it up.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Decking, and rigging
    9 days ago by brianupyonder ( Warrant Officer)
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    it looks good,rigging looks complicated
    brian
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Decking, and rigging
    9 days ago by Inkoust ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi, very nice and honest work. Good luck. Zdenek๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Decking, and rigging
    9 days ago by figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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    Hi Hillro,

    She looks great!

    I especially like the deck details!

    Job well done!

    Cheers, Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Decking, and rigging
    8 days ago by Nerys ( Vice Admiral)
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    I do like this boat, The open rails around the deck, those fancy gudgeons and pintles on the rudder, the planked deck, how could anyone not like. The drawings of the sail plan look quite complicated but from a full size point of view, pretty accurate. How many of the sails will you be able to control with servos? I presume she is to be a working, sailing model. Will you rely on interior ballast or are you planning some sort of removable ballast keel.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Double planking complete.
    27 days ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Finally the material to complete planking has arrived.
    Finished the main hull planking, i found the rounded bow and stern the most difficult but generally found this first attempt at double planking very satisfying.
    Also planked the bulwarks on the inside of the hull.
    A few coats of clear varnish certainly brings out the planking.
    Next is to progress with the decking, and deck fittings like windlass, hatch covers, cabin, etc.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Double planking complete.
    27 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    For your first time at double planking you have done a fantastic job.
    She is really looking good.
    Well done.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Double planking complete.
    27 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Great job!

    JB
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Double planking complete.
    27 days ago by brianupyonder ( Warrant Officer)
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    looks very nice seems to have a nice shine to it
    brian๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Double planking complete.
    27 days ago by jacko ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    very nice and seems to have a nice shine
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Double planking complete.
    27 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    She looks magnificent Hilly,
    If I'd managed that on my first attempt (or even the tenth๐Ÿ™„) my ghast would have been completely flabbered!๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    Keep it up๐Ÿ‘
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Double planking complete.
    27 days ago by Nerys ( Vice Admiral)
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    Your planking looks superb and I do like the contrasting colour planks. You are getting an excellent finish too. I do like the wooden open rails around the decks. This is a model I am longing to see under sail in her natural element.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Double Planking
    1 month ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    First go at double planking. I pinned the planks after gluing. Found I had to do a lot of tapering at the bow and stern. I think it looks ok however I am sure it does not look like the real ship.
    Run out of mahogany strips. Waiting on deliver from Hobbies.
    When the pins are removed, they do leave wee holes however they fill with dust from sanding so disappear.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Double Planking
    1 month ago by figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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    Hi Hillro,

    It looks great!

    Cheers, Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Double Planking
    1 month ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Looks good to me Hillro.
    As i have said not the easiest of jobs to do.

    Martin555.
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    1 month ago by Rookysailor ( Captain)
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    If I had done that Hillro, I would be very pleased with myself๐Ÿ˜Š

    Cheers, Pete
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Double Planking
    1 month ago by Nerys ( Vice Admiral)
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    Think you've made a very good job of the planking, certainly wouldn't know that it was a first attempt. I'm sure she will look great when nicely varnished and in her natural element.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Double Planking
    1 month ago by Newby7 ( Captain)
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    It does look good don't be hard on yourself.
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ“ Bulwarks and hand Rails
    2 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hull Planking build up to handrail level. the kit had a plywood handrail but I dumped that and made mahogany ones.
    The mahogany used was from lift door surrounds from the 1950s. These were 12"x2" planks. Believe it or not these had be painted over.
    Handy having a son who is a lift engineer.
    Some advice is required on double planking the hull in mahogany strip.
    Do I soak the strips first? What type of glue would you use?

    I think this double planking is going to be tricky, any advice welcome.
    Thanks in advance.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bulwarks and hand Rails
    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    When doing the second layer of planking you should take your time and pay special attention to all the joints.

    I have not made many plank on frame models but the glue i used was water proof wood glue.

    Also soaking the planks helps.
    You will have to pin them in place until almost dry before gluing.

    I am sure that other members have more experience on this subject and will be able to help you beat that I.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bulwarks and hand Rails
    2 months ago by stevedownunder ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Hillro,
    Sorry I have no experience with this sort of build.
    Maybe try running a build log on Ships of Scale as well as this site. SOS is more geared to this sort of build.
    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bulwarks and hand Rails
    2 months ago by Newby7 ( Captain)
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    Agree with Martin.Each piece of mahogany needs to be as close as you can keep it.This makes the finished job look good.
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bulwarks and hand Rails
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Vice Admiral)
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    Martin has said it all, take your time and pay special attention to the joints. I think you will have most trouble on those fat rounded ends. I would use as thin a plank as I could manage, it will bend easier. In fact if you think it needs the thickness, why not two layers. I would soak at least overnight and start off with boiling water, repeating a few times if possible. On the sides it won't matter as much, you shouldn't have any trouble. Best of luck, I've been interested in this model since you started and look forward to following your progress.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Hull Planking to deck level
    2 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Screwed a block of wood to the deck to allow the hull to be held securely upside down in a vice.
    Started planking. Just using the experience gained in Planking other hulls, I just used tapered planks where required. Having a belt sander this is not difficult.
    I would say 60% of the planking did not require tapering.Each plank was pinned each frame.
    This hull is to be double planked so all that is required is a smooth finish.
    At the moment, some shaping of the bow and stern required.
    Next stage is how to go about planking the "bulwarks"
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Hull Planking to deck level
    2 months ago by Newby7 ( Captain)
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    Looks good so far .
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ“ Hull and Deck
    2 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Decided to replace the thin veneer deck supplied with kit , with 1mm plywood to stiffen up the hull.
    Shaped lime wood blocks fitted for the bow and stern laminating mahogany bow and stern posts.When deck is secure, will trim the edges to the frame.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Hull and Deck
    2 months ago by Newby7 ( Captain)
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    Looks good .
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ“ Dutch Gallot trading Vessel, initial research and build.
    3 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Well , I bought a job lot on eBay, a bundle of Part built display model ship's kits. I bought this mainly for the wood, boat parts etc. To my surprise, I picked up two large boxes of stuff. These boxes contained six partly built models, the hulls seemed to have been started but interest seemed to wane at finishing the rigging and details.
    Anyway sorting through mountains of stuff, I sorted out what was possible to complete like the Bounty etc.
    However I found one box of stuff contain parts to make a Dutch Trading Vessel but in this case no hull parts. The great thing was that a good set of plans containing the hull frame details. There are a set of instructions in French. Using google translate and my limited knowledge of french managed to work out a parts listing.

    I spent some time researching using Mr Google, I could not find any detail of the kit, or the boat.
    However I found the following.


    A galiot was a type of Dutch or German merchant ship of 20 to 400 tons (bm), similar to a ketch, with a rounded fore and aft like a fluyt. Galiots had nearly flat bottoms to sail in shallow waters. These ships were especially favored for coastal navigation in the North and Baltic seas.
    I did not find a lot of info however I found below

    The galeas is a small type of trade ship, used mainly in the Baltic Sea and North Sea. It was popular from the 17th to the early 20th centuries. The galeas was derived from the Dutch galiot. A galiot had a similar rig, but a rounded stern.

    https://www.modelships.de/Galeas-Stettin/Galeas-Stettin.htm

    Looking at its details it looked almost identical to my plans and there are loads of detailed photographs.

    So being what I think is a fairly unique build I thought I would have a go.

    So I am building the hull, using the plans for the frames 4mm ply.
    the hull planking is double planked.
    this I assume I have to skin the hull using mahogany strips on top of the first layer of planking.
    Is This a correct assumption?
    https://www.modelships.de/Galeas-Stettin/Galeas-Stettin.htm
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Dutch Gallot trading Vessel, initial research and build.
    3 months ago by Colin H ( Rear Admiral)
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    Lucky b####r.
    Well done, cheers Colin.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Dutch Gallot trading Vessel, initial research and build.
    3 months ago by Newby7 ( Captain)
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    That is what I would do.The first is to plank the hull and smooth the planking to get it ready for your Mahogany planks .Look foreword to you progress .
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Dutch Gallot trading Vessel, initial research and build.
    3 months ago by Nerys ( Vice Admiral)
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    That sounds like q pretty good job lot.
    As far as building a model galeas or galot is concerned, that is a most interesting and different project. Best of luck and I shall follow your progress with more than usual interest.

    Cheers, Nerys.
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