Vic Smeed "Guardsman"

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Fred Opening post 1

Vic Smeed "Guardsman"

Hi One and All

Now that I have finished the Wacht am Rhein I need a new project, I have the MMM Lady "T" that I have had so long that Nelson had both eye's when I got her, but I fell that some thing that will not take me a year or two to finish is needed, so I have decided to start on the Guardsman, again this will not be a step by step build just me rambling along doing my thing.

Fred
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  1. Martin555
    Fleet Admiral
    Hi Fred,
    Regular updates would be good though as we all like seeing the work and progress of other members.

    Martin555.
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Fred #2 of 11 1

Items Ordered

Hi One and All

Have just come off the phone to Steve of Model Boats Bit's, I have placed an order with him for a 7" x 4mm shaft, 385 motor with a set of couplings to fit and a Medium Brass Rudder.

He said that they will be in the post tonight, so should have them some time next week.

So here end's the first instalment.

Fred
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  1. FredBronze
    Commander
    Hi Nerys

    Thank you for your comment,
    As for tall funnels I just felt that the early type of work boats are a bit more appealing, but saying that I do have a more modern tug, along side three Oil Rig supply Vessels that are in stock to be built at some time.

    Fred
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  2. JOHN
    Midshipman
    hi Fred

    Have you given much thought of how you are going to construct the hull? I know the original was bread and butter balsa. Then, I believe, they came up with the vac-formed hull.

    When I built mine I used the templates for the shape of the hull that is given in the plan to construct frames. I planked the hull.

    Lovely little model they are to sail. I have sailed mine in many a steering competition. The only thing I had to do was make the rudder larger - as - it didnt respond to helm in reverse and it just decided which way it was going to go by itself.😁

    John
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Fred #3 of 11 1

Started the Build

Tuesday 06/07/2021
Hi One and All

First of all I will answer John's question yes I am using the
vac formed hull, as I do not want to take too long on this build like my last one.

Yesterday (Monday) all the parts that I ordered from Model Boat Bits came in the post.

My first decision was not to cut off the waste, The reason I did this was that I felt that it would give me a more stable platform for when I was cutting out the rudder post and the prop shaft, I then moved on to cutting out the keel, now this fits into a grove in the hull, to make the keel more stable I put three 2.5 mm nylon bolts through the hull into the keel, I also cut some dragon teeth into the part of the keel that is glued in to the hull grove, I used a new to me epoxy from Devcon, it takes up to 12hrs to fully set. I also cut out part of the keel to take the prop shaft for when it was time to cut through the hull, Last thing was to glue the keel onto the hull and tighten up the bolts.

All being well tomorrow I will start cutting the rudder into shape.

Fred
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  1. Martin555
    Fleet Admiral
    Hi Fred,
    Glad to see you on a new project.
    Grate start.
    I will be following.

    Martin555.
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Fred #4 of 11 1

Fitted Running Gear

Hi One and All
Well I have spent some time reshaping the rudder into the shape as per the plans, have I done the right thing? John said that he made his rudder larger as it did not respond to well going astern, so I may just have to make an extension to the rudder at some point in time.

As I had made the cut out for the prop shaft in the keel, I now cut out the rest of the shaft tunnel and made the breakthrough into the hull, I have just placed the shaft in the hull to see were the moto mount has to go, but first I will fix some ply so that when the time comes I will have a base to fix the battery and any other items that need to go into the boat.

I moved onto making the hole for the rudder post, now when I tried the rudder post it put the rudder out of place, so that has gone out the window, so in the next week I will have to go to my local model shop ( Sussex Model Centre) to get some brass tube to fit and make a new rudder post.

Well that is it for the time being.

Fred
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  1. Colin HSilver
    Fleet Admiral
    Hi Fred, having turning in reverse problems in the past I have tried various methods and found that if you have a section of rudder ahead of the pivot shaft it improves handling immensely.
    Also the rudders supplied with the black plastic tube are a pain so I discard them in favour of brass tube as supplied with Robbe rudders.
    Cheers Colin.
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  2. redpmg
    Commodore
    That's a better rudder Colin - bottom example is more suitable - could easily be shaped like the kit one - both balanced rudders which place less strain on the servo - not sure they would help with reversing unless they are bigger than the kit one. Fully agree with not using the plastic shaft type - sooner or later its going to shear and sods law says it will be at the worst possible time...........
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Fred #5 of 11 1

Rudder

Hi One and All
Well I have been looking at the rudder on the Guardsman.

Taking into account all of your comments, I have been thinking (not a good idea) I will make a bespoke rudder but unlike the one on the plans, I hope that the new one will be fitted into the shape of the hull and not look like a barn door.

I will post updates as I go alone.

Fred
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Fred #6 of 11 1

Moving

Hi One and All

Having read about Martin and Bill being removed as Mod's I now feel that I will just be come a spectator from now on.

I will be moving this build to another forum, as said in Hitchhiker's Guide " So long and thanks for all the fish".

Fred
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  1. Martin555
    Fleet Admiral
    Fred,
    Please don't let this ruin your enjoyment of this site.
    I am sure that the other members want to see your build log.

    It will be a shame to ruin the enjoyment just because of one person.

    Martin555.
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  2. FredBronze
    Commander
    Hi Martin

    Thank you for your comments, I just do not like to see any of my friends treated in a bad way.

    I know that we have not had any form of post from Fireboat to say why he removed you and Bill from your posts, so to me that is a case of throwing his toy's out of his pram.

    Keep safe the both of you

    Fred
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Fred #7 of 11 1

Rebirth of this build

It has been two years since I last posted anything on this build, in that time I had fitted the deck and found that when I fitted the deck housing it made her look as if she had broken her back, so I removed the deck and at this point I just put her onto the shelf, for two years she has been giving me the evil eye, so that in the end I took her down from the shelf and started working on her again.
Why do we refer ships as female? Send your answer on a £50 note
I do have an idea why
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Fred #8 of 11 1

work so far

Hi One & All
Despite the cold I have been working on the rope locker and trying to plank the deck, this how she now looks.

With the deck replaced she now looks right not broken back.
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Fred #9 of 11 1

Update on the planking

O.K I have now finished the planking on the Guardsman, I think I need more practice,
I also tried out how she will look with all the deck housings.
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  1. flaxbybuck
    Captain
    Well done with the planking. Applying deck planking with individual planks, especially then with separate infill strips to replicate caulking is something I always admire. I have seen a number of failures, but most of us seem to have quite high standards and will re-make work that is not up to scratch. I certainly find that, and in cases have re-made work three times in order to get it right.😉
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Fred #10 of 11 1

Update on Guardsman

Hi One & All
Just a quick update, I have done a repaint of the hull, and today I made and fixed the mast, just have to rig it now.

The one in the brack ground is a MMM Lady "T"
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