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    Martin555
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    Hi Julio,
    That is a very clever system.
    thank you for showing us.

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    Hi:
    This is what I found.
    I hope it serves you
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    Martin555
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    Looking forward to seeing the photos, and perhaps a video of the rudder in action!

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    RonH
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    Thank you for your input Martin. the kitchen rudder was patented in 1914 by Admire Kitchen. You can always pull up the original patents if you wish.
    My boat is 36" X 12" and uses a single cylinder Oscillator that was made in the late 40's by a fellow name Antony Bayoboy out of Rahway NJ. The Kitchen rudder works very well as when it is in reverse it is about 30 percent of what it would be going forward., but with the slower speed it is steerable. I will looks for some photos of the rudder dissembled and take some photos on what it looks like in the boat.
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    Hi RonH,
    I would be interested as I know very little about this system.

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    The Kitchen Rudder:
    Not to hard once you understand the basics.
    For mine there are 4 shafts: The rudder stuffing box, the tube that is used to control the right rudder shell, the tube to control the left rudder shell then there is a floating shaft. all are telescoping. There are two servos used, one that is mounted on the floating shaft that pulls or pushed the two shells apart or together then the other servo is used in controlling the right to left motion as used on a typical rudder. It is hard to visualize, but it works very well. Question would the folks on this forum like me to open a kitchen rudder post? I can dig up some drawing, tke some photos and try to post a you-tube video?
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    RonH
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    I presume its a single cylinder single acting engine in which case have you tried an exhaust throttle? A simple lever pivoted at one end which can partially cover the exhaust port. it may seem a bit strange but if steam cannot get out there is less room for fresh to get in while keeping the full boiler pressure to move the piston. if your engine has an exhaust stub then a butterfly or slide valve across that .
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    PS: Welcome aboard Novagsi0 😊
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    Tricky in any boat!! 😲 But an interesting concept.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_rudder
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    You could always make a Kitchen's Patent Reversing Rudder to control the speed I made one once but never fitted it to my steam boat. it requires 2 servos to open close the direction, and speed control is made by open more or less both sides engine runs at constant speed. I guess on a boat that small it may be tricky to modify at this stage.
    Happy boating!!.
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