That is what I'm trying to achieve. A bit late for some things but there are some parts like sails which were always to be made from scratch. At this stage I'm going to adjust as much as I can. Well, I made a mistake trusting Robbe and now I'm going to have to learn to love Valdivia again.
I'm saving all my energy and passion for Bluenose.

I think I see your problem Andy.
The tack of the staysail and jib appear to be wrongly placed. The tack of the flying jib seems to be OK.
When you study the photo of the real craft you see that the tack of the staysail should be inboard of the bowsprit, and the jib tack about half way along the bowsprit
To change or correct these will involve making new sails to fit the new configuration.
I am not so sure about the position of the spreaders. When comparing photos 2 and 3 I can see that the heights of the masts are different from the original. Photo 2 of the original shows the fore mast and main mast both taller than the respective topmasts. Thus the headsails appear larger in the model when compared to the original.
If you are concerned that your model should more closely resemble the original then yes, you will need to make new masts and sails. I don't see any way around it.
Sorry to be the bearer of such news, but you did ask !🤔🤔

Thank you for the link Ron👍

John, Valdivia had the motor installed originally and fortunately it was left untouched in mine. Makes life easier.
I'm following the manual with regard to rc gear and have the servos ready to be installed. I guessed the travels so far but still need to know those for the foresails.
You mentioned schooners... Any chance to see them?
I need to check out the grp hulls for sure btw. Very intriguing.

Roy, I have to say, fantastic experience. I'd love to able to talk to someone form the development team. I really love that boat, not as much as Bluenose though.
Thank you for sharing.

https://www.mobilemarinemodels.com/schooner-62-c.asp

Hi Andy,

I am just finishing off the building of a two master gaff rig schooner right now. This is one of 3 such schooners within our club; all based on the excellent GRP schooner hulls as offered by Mobile Marine Models of Lincoln.

Due to difficulties installing and rigging sail winches on such "complicated" models, we have all installed powerful sail arm servos. The other recent thread on sail arms verses winches on this esteemed forum refers!

I really feel that scale- sail models are really the ultimate in all sorts of ways. Are you building your schooner with an auxiliary motor or without?

Dr John F Leeds and Bradford BBC. 😁😁😴

Hello, Valdivia is the current name it also had the of something von Altona she has changed owners and names since.
I wrote a short article in Int Marine Modelling some years ago when Chris Jackson was editor. I had been to the Dortmund exhibition and met the Robbie saleman, who'd been on the boat and had lots of photos and it was he who got them to make the model. I believe Billing also came out with a kit at the same time.
He told me some of the above and let me sail her and she needed a bit of power on to get round corners. The jit has the upper masts drop down for ease of transport, he had a Renaukt Clio.
Nice man lovely boat and good luck.
Roy

Dear John. That is a very insightful comment and I agree fully.
What I have to comment on is the simplification. Yes it can go too far however I don't see valdivia as a simple model, well, apart from maybe some details like splicing. I do really think that shifting a sail's anchor point maybe a mistake as well as wrong position of both mast and jib spreaders.
You made me rethink my approach to this project... and life... maybe. ha ha
I'm going to make the foresail correct and keep the jib in a wrong position for now. I'll see how it performs in practice.

Oh and one more thing dear readers. Do any of you own this beautiful vessel or know someone who does? I'm scratch building the control gear and need some info on seets' travels.

Hi Andy,

Although I have not built this impressive model I have examined them at various regards and shows.

Clearly model boats and particularly complex models such are schooners are simplified somewhat when compared against clear photographs of the original. This especially applies to the rigging which would be a veritable "cats cradle" on a 1\32 or 1\24 scale model.

In my experience it also particularly applies in kits of sailing models where some manufacturers take simplification far too far when compared to the plans of experienced modellers.

Indeed that is why we see a totally separate class for kit-built models against the more complex (and frequently more accurate) scratch or plan-built models of the same subject.

Kits have to sell and that means they must be simple enough to be built without undue difficulty by "average" modellers. They must also be simple enough to be economic (and hence profitable) to produce.

It must also be said that kits also vary widely in their quality. However, we must never assume they are correct in all respects until the completed model is checked carefully against builders' plans and\or photographs of the real thing.

Dr John F Leeds and Bradford. BBC 🤔🤔🤔