British Toy Boats.

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#12 21
No Sailing Water in Devon.

@french47

Hi Bill,

I had a similar experience when we moved to Exmouth in Devon - just a short distance along the coast from where you are in Paignton - a shortage of model boating facilities.

……apart from the sea!

Good luck finding the information that you need for the 1/24 scale Thames Barge.

Bob.
Never too old to learn
#11 21
I have just trturned to model making at thr the age of 80, I have a couple of boats that I used to sail at a great boat club at Yarmouth in Norfolk I have moved to Paignton in Deven where there is a agreat shortage of sailing water. Such is life'. Can some one help me please, I am seearching for fixtures and fitting for a 1/24 scale Thames sailing barg? Brail winch and lee board winches and guide rollers. Any informatiom would be most welcomes.
Thank you
Bill
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#10 26
I was walking around The Royal Arcade in Southport yesterday after an enjoyable morning sailing my Classic Model Power Boats at the Southport Club.

The Royal Arcade is a prominent multi-story “bazaar” that always has a LOT old used toys and models for sale…as well as a lot of other general detritus of all sorts.

Amongst the vast array of all kinds of (over-priced) old models I noticed several of the old Triang boats and various tinplate submarines that I had seen in this book.

It was nice to see so many of them in real life, but the prices were too high to tempt me to buy anything.

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#9 44
@DodgyGeezer That site is a mine of information and useful tips. Some years back I utilised the dacron fishing line idea from there in order to provide rudder control to my ‘remastered’ Veron Titan tug as its stern section is solid balsa. There is no easy access for pushrods etc. I believe the design goes back to 1955, so long before the days of compact RC gear.
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#8 44
Star Model Yachts.

I understand that there are quite a few collectors of Star model yachts, and also at least one group that I aware of that still sails them together.

This is quite interesting as I remember saving my pocket money for weeks when I was a young boy before a caravan holiday in Swanage so I could buy a Star model yacht and sail it in the boating lake that was there at the time.

Back then, I never knew that they were made in Birkenhead - quite close to where I am now in Ainsdale.

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#6 47
Toys/models?
I think those in the know can tell the difference and that's what matters. I did build some balsa model planes in my younger days, from plans and sheets of balsa and ply, definitely models. I'm sure I'm not alone in returning to modelling plastic kits during lockdown and stuck to them in my loft, messing about with converting them and lately I've tried a couple of 3d printed ones, these I would definitely place in the toy side. No intricate detailing, but still needing quite a bit of work with assembly, sanding, filling etc, but still look toy-like.
We each get satisfaction from doing our own thing, but I've never built a functional RC boat completely from scratch, and I tip my hat to those that have the patience, the vision and the finesse to build some of the incredible creations we see on these pages.
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#5 49
@Fogwall,
Well said, I think many of us began building model kits as kids. Somewhere along the way, we progressed from kit building to designing what interested us and created our own models. We took a model kit and enhanced it to become the model we envisioned in out minds.
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#4 56
@zooma You make an interesting point and remind me of a discussion I had with an aero-modelling friend some years back (he used to fly at Aughton, Halsall and Woodvale, places you may be familiar with).

We agreed that the underlying motive was pretty much the same as when we had toy boats and planes as kids, though he admitted it had taken a while to accept. For me it’s always been aesthetic. I have very nostalgic memories of Sutcliffe boats, their clockwork sub and Star yachts sailing at New Brighton. In imagination they were far more than they appeared in real life. This did however cross over with a burgeoning interest in ‘real models’ in the early 70s: an Eeze Bilt MTB kit in my case, Veron tug and of course Airfix kits.

Perhaps it’s just a matter of complexity? a toy is something which is usually ‘plug and play’ with not too much attention paid to scale accuracy, almost a caricature in some cases. A model I’d suggest, usually involves a fair investment in time, often money too, is built by or for the owner using specialised knowledge and is often unique rather than mass-produced. If scale, the owner will probably have paid attention to realism. If it’s something else then it might be very specialised or built to strict rules for competition.

That said, I’ve been really impressed with what’s available ‘off the shelf’ these days. I occasionally see kids with toy RC boats on our local lake which I’d have been more than happy with when I started off. I often wonder if many of them develop a lasting interest. Unfortunately I suspect not, and I never see kids with toy yachts these days.

This causes some confusion sometimes though, as it's been assumed on a couple of occasions that I've just bought my models. 'Where did you buy it?' and there is surprise when I explain.

I’m sure some modern off the shelf products could be and are used as the basis for serious projects however.
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#3 56
@Ronald

Well said! I’ve been building model ships since I was 11 years old, and I’ve never considered them simply toys.
There is a big difference between taking something out of a box and putting it on the water, and actually building, shaping, fitting, painting, and detailing a model with your own hands.

For me, the real enjoyment is in the building process—the challenges, the mistakes, and finally seeing the finished model come to life.

We should absolutely be proud to say, “Yes, I built it.” It represents time, patience, skill, and a love for the craft.
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#2 58
@zooma
Many people do say they are toys, something to amuse ourselves with in our spare time. They are not viewed as educational “toys” or that we are skilled craftsmen/women.

The introduction of plastic rc models has reduced the hobby to being “toys”. The Ready to Fly or Ready to Sail and yes, the Ready to Drive out of the box industry has removed the art of building from “scratch”.

The next time someone asks you, “Did you build it ?” Reply promptly with a Yes! It is not a toy, but it was built in your workshop, using tools, crafted by your hands. It required patience, skill and an investment of time.

Be proud of your accomplishments.
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#1 62

British Toy Boats.

Toy or Model Boats?

I guess many (“out-siders”) would suggest that all of the r/c model boats that we enjoy are basically “Toy Boats”.

Many of us would try to disagree with this and suggest that they are in fact “models” rather than “toys”, but yesterday as I was walking around Formby, I noticed this book for sale in a charity shop for the princely sum of £9.99.

…..well is was a charity shop, and I thought it could be interesting - so I bought it .

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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