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    📝 Comment to Colin
    11 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Colin. I admit she’s got a bit more punch than she should have…but consider this: Carrol Shelby, a Texan, makes automotive history by shoehorning an American V8 into the AC Ace, thus transforming that car into the Shelby Cobra. I, a native born Texan, basically did the same thing with the Banckert.
    Coincidence? I think not…😁
    Cash
    PS…I meant to add a comment, but I hit new blog post instead. On my IPad, when I try to delete the unused post it shuts down this website, so I used it to return a comment.

    💬 Re: Comment to Colin
    11 days ago by 🇬🇧 EdW ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Don’t worry, it’s not even close to coming up on it’s hydro-foils 😂
    💬 Re: Comment to Colin
    11 days ago by 🇬🇧 Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Cash, that's a good comparison, but the cobra was built for speed whereas the bankert is built for towing power and fine control with excellent maneuverability.
    Looks like you will start a new craze, tug racing.
    Cheers Colin.
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    📝 Club vid with Banckert footage
    12 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    A vid of our last run this past Sunday with some vid of the Banckert.



    https://youtu.be/dPPlvQpGTI8?si=OXhnaPzGR8NaO2o2
    💬 Re: Club vid with Banckert footage
    12 days ago by 🇬🇧 Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Looking very stable on the water, but a bit fast.
    Cheers Colin.
    📝 Successful Maiden!!😁
    14 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. Took the Banckert out for her maiden run today, and I’m pleased with it!! For and aft ballast was spot on, but she had a slight list to starboard. I decided to go ahead and run her that way for the day. Had her in the water well over two hours, probably a little less than an hour and a half run time, she used just over 50 percent of charge on a 2 cell 5200 lipo. She handled well, and the after maiden inspection showed below decks dry as a bone. I figure 1/2 to 1 ounce of ballast port side should be enough to correct the list.
    I’ll post a pic and vid in a few. Thanks for the words of encouragement and comments, y’all are the best!!
    Cash

    📝 Leak test, ballast, and….errr….securing the superstructure 🙀
    21 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. I did the ballast and leak test today…oh, and I damaged the superstructure! I hadn’t come up with a way to secure it before I did the ballast check, and sure enough, as I was walking into the living room I knocked it off and it hit the floor. Thankfully, the damage wasnt too bad, mostly the compass was knocked loose, and the upper part of the mast was damaged. I rescued the mast and ladder, and touched up the paint. The upper antenna mount and aerials were a total loss, I’m going to have to make a new one, repaint and secure, but that’s about it. I now have 2 pins coming down from the very forward deck of the superstructure into holes on the upper deck. I have to secure the aft part of the superstructure and that will keep the cabin in place.
    I used large empty spice bottles filled with bb’s for the main portion of the ballast admidships, there’s already bb’s permanently epoxied aft, and 2 pill bottles with bb’s strapped together forward. I still have room to shift the battery to fine tune the boat.
    A little repair, touch up and she maidens next Sunday!!😁

    💬 Re: Leak test, ballast, and….errr….securing the superstructure 🙀
    21 days ago by 🇨🇦 RodC ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Cud be worse, you cud hav damaged the rudders,props,& stuffing tubes (out side the hull).🤑
    📝 Almost there
    22 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. I took Friday off, had a couple of things to do, so after that was done I spent the rest of the morning and Saturday morning on the Banckert. She has doors, life rings, and sundry other items painted and installed. I need to make up the tow lines, then ballast and leak check.

    📝 Towing equipment, more rails, monitors and such
    27 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. Got more done this weekend and last week. Installed the tow hook, what I assume are robe winches on the side of the cabin, fire monitors and upper rails. Now, I had to make a command decision when it came to the fire monitor feed lines….they are SUPPOSED to run from the monitors, across the upper cabin, down the backside of the cabin and aft to just about the funnel. The parts in the kit that one makes the piping from are very stiff insulated copper wire. I intended to do just that but….there’s no way on Gods good green earth that you can bend the wires to shape and feed them under the railings, I tried for about thirty minutes. The Banckerts “manual” shows where to install, but no sequence. I installed the rails first, in essence, I muffed it…so I ran them down the backside of the cabin, terminating at the upper deck. If anybody asks, I’ll tell them that maritime law states that any ship in Texas waters can not have a tripping hazard on deck, and the pipes were rerouted straight down to the below deck pumps.🤣
    I have a few more things to do. Some lockers, hatches and doors, a little rigging and the rudder linkage hatch..then it’s ballast, touch up and maiden.

    💬 Re: Towing equipment, more rails, monitors and such
    26 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Dave. The wire was stiff, but not overly so. But once it was bent there’s no getting it under the bottom rail and squeezed by the upper cupola. So, I cheated🤣. The Banckert is part of Billings “experienced “ line, so I guess thy think a builder would already foresee that issue, and install the monitor piping BEFORE the upper rails. Oh well, each boat is a learning experience, or as James May said in the first season of Oh Cook…” you learn, I learn then we are all fed by Knowledge “.
    I’ve been looking for a good place to use that quote and I found it!!!😁
    The way you described how to bend stiff insulated wire is great, I will have to remember that, thanks!!
    Cash
    💬 Re: Towing equipment, more rails, monitors and such
    26 days ago by 🇬🇧 dave976 ( Captain)
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    Looking good. Copper is hard until annealed so I am not surprised you struggled to bend to shape. I have in similar situations stripped the covering off the wire and cut the wire into short lengths leaving a gap where there are bends. You can then slide the complete covering over the cut pieces.
    Looking forward to seeing this on the water.
    📝 Aft hatch fittings and tow rope rails
    1 month ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. Got a little more done past few days. I built up the rails that support the towing ropes across the aft deck, and am almost finished fitting out the aft hatch. Nothing earth shattering here, all pretty basic, except the last rail took a little soldering. Now, I have a a mild complaint about the Billings instructions as they apply to the aft rail. There’s no pic of this thing mounted on the boat except for the plan view, and there’s no pic of the soldered on supports until you get to the last page. There is a pic of the finished rail with a soldering iron above it…I had no clue at all what this was about till I saw pics of finished boats…and every one of of them are installed a little differently than what I can glean from the “plans”. Anyway, they’re installed. I made the bitt on the aft part of the hatch from 2 plastic bitts that I modified and glued together, as I’m tired of dowels.🤣
    Now, I need to make up some more railing, install the fire monitors and tubes, lockers, hatches and rigging..oh!! And ballast.
    Cash

    💬 Re: Aft hatch fittings and tow rope rails
    1 month ago by 🇬🇧 flaxbybuck ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    You've got some interesting stuff on your workbench - in addition to the boat, that is.
    Nice work. Can't wait to see her completed and on the water 😉
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    💬 Re: Aft hatch fittings and tow rope rails
    1 month ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Still wondering if I’m going to power the Banckert with a 6 cell NIMH or a 2 cell Lipo. I think I’ll leave enough “ballast room” so I can try both. Might be a NIMH would work well, give me a little useable ballast, and still give plenty of power. Oh, btw, I know this post is a bit “out of sequence” but I accidentally hit a spot on the screen for a response, and on the iPad, it will not let me delete the post, it shuts the whole board down, so….I posted something.
    Cash
    💬 Re: Aft hatch fittings and tow rope rails
    1 month ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Ronald. That is a much different boat than the Banckert I’m building, much more modern, and I agree looks quite a bit larger. I’m probably leaving the deck and bulwarks as is. It may not be totally scale vs the full size boat, but it works for me. My eye for detail is good, my patience and skills are not quite as good.😁
    Cash
    💬 Re: Aft hatch fittings and tow rope rails
    1 month ago by 🇨🇦 Ronald ( Vice Admiral)
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    Apparently according to this link, there were two tugboats with the same name. The Billings kit is smaller than the second vessel, which has twin exhausts and the aft is open.

    https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/media/banckert.47846/
    https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/gallery?shipName=BANCKERT&shipNameSearchMode
    💬 Re: Aft hatch fittings and tow rope rails
    1 month ago by 🇨🇦 Ronald ( Vice Admiral)
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    What color are you painting the upper decks? Here is a webste with actual tugboats that may help in selecting a color as there are options. Some decks are not painted the same color as bulwarks, while others, the deck is painted up to the edge of a railing leaving about a 6” white, yellow or other band separating the deck color from the other structures.

    I googled the Banckert and found this photos which give good details.


    https://merseamuseum.org.uk/mmphoto.php?pid=ASH055&hit=432&tot=2557
    https://www.varenderfgoed.nl/nieuwezee/Maasbank%20basm%20fgo%20IMG_20171021_0014
    📝 Built the winch, added exhaust
    1 month ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. Got the anchor winch built and installed today, along with the chains and ports for the non existent hawse pipe. I also added exhaust ports to the top of the funnel. Oh…I had a lipo that looked a little sketchy when I charged it. I put it into a fire resistant lipo bag and tried to save it, ended up shorting it out on the back patio so I could dispose of it safely. Usually these things die with a little smoke, maybe a lick of flame at the end, this one was different…..
    Cash



    💬 Re: Built the winch, added exhaust
    1 month ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Mouldbuilder. “Your mission, should you choose to accept it” Swear I heard that right before it lit off…🤣
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    💬 Re: Built the winch, added exhaust
    1 month ago by 🇺🇸 Hhager2 ( Warrant Officer)
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    Befire chargers had sensors to tell if battery was already charged I had two very large liPo packs. Finished charging on and put other on charger. Went grocery shopping until my neighbor called and said your house is on fire. Rushed home and we all spent night at my sons house (5 cats 5 people). I thought he was joking but it wasn’t funny. $500,000 worth damage a 6 months rebuild of tge house interior n a loss of all models n motors ( never place motors on a plastic shelf rack, when heated it folds in and is a big blob encasing everything). It was inspected after fire by Feds. The rules fir chargers changed after that report. It took years before I was allowed liPo in the house or even use them. I use 3,000 Ma as most large size. Never 5
    ,000 and above. The batteries were on concrete floor in unfinished basement, what can go wrong. Yes I put the fully charged multi stack big battery pack back on charger. Fyi liPo dies cause fires Pic of spot it started at
    💬 Re: Built the winch, added exhaust
    1 month ago by 🇺🇸 Len1 ( Warrant Officer)
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    That's is why I don't like LIPOs. I know they have their place but I try not to use them if I can. I usually use metal nickel hydride or I prefer sealed lead acid or gel cells if the boat can handle the weight, they make great ballast. Always use a LIPO bag for charging and storage. Do not use metal ammunition boxes unless you vent them because if you have a runaway fire the box can explode with shrapnel and burning lithium flying everywhere, I know for a fact that this has happened but not body was hurt except for some dirty underwear.
    💬 Re: Built the winch, added exhaust
    1 month ago by 🇭🇺 MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Cash.
    Great video. What was the first thing that happened to make you think that this battery was about to self district in 5 seconds.😃
    📝 Funnel/mast assembled and mounted
    2 months ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. I spent an hour or so after work finishing up the funnel/mast assembly. I had to build the…whatever it is that goes on the aft side of the funnel. There’s no drawing of how most of the fittings go together, but there are pics of the finished product. Kind of. Anyway, this fitting is made up of 2 brass hoops and a base. At first I was going to drill them, then run a brass rod thru the rings and the base. What I ended up doing was dry fitting the rings, soldering them then soldering that assembly to the base. After it all cooled I took a piece of scrap brass wire and potted in the bottom with ca, then painted the assembly. I then made a small shallow hole in the masts platform, cut the wire so I had a scant 1-2 mm protruding, and uses that pin to center the assembly as it was glued on.
    I then mounted the funnel. Now, I had to cut the railings where it mounts on the upper deck, and sure enough they were just short. That actually gave me some “wiggle room” to make sure I had the funnel straight and true, but once the funnel was mounted I’d have a little gap, so I took some tiny brass eyelets and prepainted them, slid them on the rails with the base facing the funnel. I taped them back to stay out of the way. Once the funnel was glued in place and cured, I slid the eyelets against the funnel and used a tiny drop of ca to secure them. Might not be exactly scale, but to my eye it looks good and takes care of any gap.
    Now it’s time for more rails, the anchor winch, towing reels, etc……
    Cash

    💬 Re: Funnel/mast assembled and mounted
    2 months ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Not sure that an MF/HF DF antenna would be too effective at MACH2 Cash😉

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    💬 Re: Funnel/mast assembled and mounted
    2 months ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Doug, Rod, thanks for the comments and the info on that antenna. I thought it migh be an antenna or maybe some sort of high end weather tracking device, but now I know! Thanks!
    Ive been doing scale boats for maybe 6 years now, starting with a krick felix, and this is the first time Ive seen anything like that antenna. We didnt have those on F16s.......🤣
    💬 Re: Funnel/mast assembled and mounted
    2 months ago by 🇨🇦 RodC ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    That '2 rings at 90 degrees' fitting to the aft of the mast just took me down Memory Lane at 3am here in Toronto. Thirty years ago one aspect of my career as a federal Radio Inspector was to go aboard ships in Toronto & inspect the onboard radio apparatus. That fitting is the receiver antenna for an ADF system, Automatic Direction Finder. The locations of LF ( low frequency) aeronautical beacon transmitters as well as AM broadcast radio stations are well known, published sites. Two 'fixes' precisely determined the ship's position. Of course nowadays, 100++ yrs after TITANIC, we have MARSAT marine satellite & GPS positioning so currently-built vessels seldom have than radio antenna unless as a backup.
    On another note your ferrules terminating handrails is an excellent alternative. My handrails end in a dot, a blob of epoxy, & this doesn't seem to adhere well to painted walls. Thankyou for sharing.
    💬 Re: Funnel/mast assembled and mounted
    2 months ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nice work Cash👍
    Re: "I had to build the…whatever it is that goes on the aft side of the funnel."
    Looks like a DF antenna to me Cash.
    Cheers, Doug😎
    📝 Funnel and mast
    2 months ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. So…worked all day yesterday…didn’t do Church today, got groceries and built up the mast. Now, it’s SUPPOSED to be a piece of obechi or basswood that you trim down and the round off the leading edge….I had a strip of medium balsa that was way easier to work. Instead of using the supplied wood parts for the supports for lamps and the like, I made them from 2 mm plasticard. I also made the base about 3mm longer, so instead of sanding the mating edge to match the curve of the mast I notched the mast to accept the base, giving me a better join. After that it was a simple matter to add the top spreader, primer, paint, paint ladder and install, then add the mast to the top of the funnel. I used a piece of brass wire as a connector and to add a little more strength to the joint, as I’m clumsy and that’s the first thing I’ll break in handling. Now I just need to install the funnel and lockers, and it’s on to the winch and sundry other details.
    Cash

    💬 Re: Funnel and mast
    2 months ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Rear Admiral)
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    Thank you Rod. I’m using Kester 37/63 rosin core solder, but when doing brass I hit the joint with Staybrite flux. That Kester solder is good stuff, makes me look good🤣
    Seriously, thanks for the atta-boy!!
    Cash
    💬 Re: Funnel and mast
    2 months ago by 🇨🇦 RodC ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Always heartwarming to view a good soldering job on brass wire. Something I'm personally not good at doing despite a quarter century doing electronics repair as a profession😔🤗
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