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    NAXOS - Fishing Boat
    by hecrowell ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    ๐Ÿ“ Naxos
    7 months ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Finally - something to show and tell for my Naxos Project. After a very long delay and a lot of communication with my supplier, I received my Speed controller, and this morning, I received my main batteries - two 6v units each with 4.5Ah rating. It is my plan to parallel them.
    The pictures show the placement of batteries, motor, Receiver, Speed controller and rudder servo. Bathtub float test indicates that she lies pretty fair in the H2o with possibility of a few oz of weight in the stern.
    Somewhere I think I remember reading something about not placing the Rx neas an esc or the drive motor due to possibility noise pickup, so I may need to rethink that placement. I wonder how many of you boat captains wrapped the Rx in a few layers of plastic followed by a wrap or two of aluminum foil?

    So, until the next time, thats all I got.
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    7 months ago by Ron ( Rear Admiral)
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    I wonder if David Walker is seeing this? Naxos is so much like his fishing boat Remus.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Not much progress on the Naxos
    8 months ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Since covid seems to have consumed most of my activities, there has not been a lot of progress on my project. This is not because I have been sick with the virus, it has just been a chore getting parts that I have ordered.
    Today, I finally received the speed controller which is a New Rain 160A controller for a brushed motor (which I am using).
    Now I face another issue for which I have very little knowledge...what battery to use for my boat. With this, I need advice.
    The speed controller contains a switch which allows one to use a LiPo or NI-MH. Battery. Can I use a SLA battery in the NI-MH position? I have the room and reasonable weight (2-3kg) should not be a problem.
    The ESC also has a braking switch, but I would operate the controller in the F/R mode only.
    IF SLA battery is not my best choice, I would appreciate suggestions from you that know a whole lot more than I do.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Not much progress on the Naxos
    8 months ago by stevedownunder ( Commander)
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    Hi hecrowell,

    I would say the SLA would be fine, as far as I know the batterie type selector switch is more for the different voltages these batteries have and the fact that LiPo batteries cannot be over discharged as they can become unstable and at worst catch fire if mistreated.

    I don't know what voltage you intend to use, although you should be alright with a 12 volt SLA when NiMH is selected, as a 9 cell NiMH battery has a max voltage of 13.5 volts while a 12 volt SLA fully charged will be around 14 volts this should be ok.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Getting back into the project
    1 year ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    The winter here seemed long. The constant threat of a dreaded virus for the past 1-1/2 years have made the winter seem even much longer. The workshop in my unheated basement means that no projects that require prolonged work get tended to, thus I am out of business from the late fall until mid Spring - which is now.
    I need to take a bit of a look at placement for the electronics and get the various electrical connectors that I need. I also need to revamp access to the innards as simply removing the cabin doesnโ€™t really leave an opening large enough to accommodate my large paws. Will post some shots on how I will do that. Hopefully by the end of June the maiden cruise will take place.

    Now, on top of it all, my sister wants me to build a static Cape Island fishing boat for her. Our dear dad carved one out of a pine block for her years ago when she was about 6 or 7. Somehow in the years of moving here and there she lost it. By the way - do any of the members have a set of plans that they would like to share? (Wink, wink, hint, hint)๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Getting back into the project
    7 months ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    I am Thinking that the station profiles would look something like this: Only a drawing not to any scale or dimensioin
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Getting back into the project
    1 year ago by Newby7 ( Admiral)
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    The winter has been long for most of us. A shame your basement is unheated. I added a portable heater to my basement for the colder weather. Would you be able to put a heater in your basement.
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ“ Pole Dancer - holdup
    2 years ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    The ESC I used is a fwd only, so had to order one that is reservable. Likely a couple of weeks before I get it.
    Siiiiiggggggghhhhhhh.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Pole Dancer - holdup
    2 years ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    The good thing is you could put it in reverse a bit quick if you had to get out of trouble.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Pole Dancer - holdup
    2 years ago by Newby7 ( Admiral)
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    The boat looks good and the ESC will make a better boat with having both directions.
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ“ Naxos (Now โ€œPole Dancerโ€)
    2 years ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Here is the Pole Dancer (ex Naxos) as she is this date - Oct 09/2020

    With not much work on her left, She is getting very close to her maiden voyage. Mostly electronics and testing to finish up. Hoping for mid November.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Naxos (Now โ€œPole Dancerโ€)
    1 year ago by Ron ( Rear Admiral)
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    Oh my, my, my, look at the close resemblance of Pole Dancer and Remus! Just a couple easy design changes to the Aft and the Wheelhouse. What do you think fellas?
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Naxos (Now โ€œPole Dancerโ€)
    2 years ago by figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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    Hi hecrowell,

    Very good details and I like the striping!

    Cheers, Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Naxos (Now โ€œPole Dancerโ€)
    2 years ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hi Doug
    The one in Nfld is โ€œSt. Johnโ€™sโ€ while the one in NB (where I Live) is โ€œSaint Johnโ€.
    Mixups happen a lot in pretty well every service thats available.
    Certainly hope you got to kiss the Cod and Drink the Screech when you got there.
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    2 years ago by Newby7 ( Admiral)
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    Well done I like the color.
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Naxos (Now โ€œPole Dancerโ€)
    2 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Very nice Chief๐Ÿ‘
    BUT: Saint Jonn!?
    I know a Saint John in New Brunswick and a Saint John's in Newfoundland.
    I once ended up in one when I should have been in the other!๐Ÿค”
    Mix up with the flight bookings๐Ÿ˜
    The staff at St John just rolled their eyes, smiled and groaned "Oh no! Not again!" and rushed us back onto the small feeder plane we'd just got off!
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ“ NAXOS - Equipment panel
    2 years ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Here is my equipment panel. It is about 5 inches wide and 4 inches high.
    Extreme left - Airtronics ESC - 20A
    Center - on/off switch for the ESC. Small white button is the ESC reset.
    Center - (below the ESC panel is the sound module
    Right - the Receiver - Airtronics 6 ch
    Along the bottom is the +Bat bus and -Bat bus.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: NAXOS - Equipment panel
    2 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Neat Chief๐Ÿ‘
    "Extreme left - Airtronics ESC - 20A" for Aircraft.
    So no backerds gear huh? Not so important I guess.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: NAXOS - Equipment panel
    2 years ago by KenThompson ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Hecrowell,,, itโ€™s always nice to see how other members present their electrics I know we can buy units of the net to do the same. Brilliant, well done.
    Ken.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Naxos - Main Battery
    2 years ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    I am up against it here and seeking advice on the main battery type to use. I have read lots on lithium ion and lipo polymir and hazards associated with charging and storing them. I know absolutely nothing about this battery technology and donโ€™t relish turning my hard work nor my home into a pile of smouldering cinders. For this reason, I am leaning toward the SLA battery of 2 to 4ah rating. The weight and physical size of these smaller units will work well for fitting into the allocated space of the battery compartment. I could even parallel them for approximately twice the ah rating.

    Some advice on this please!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Naxos - Main Battery
    2 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Glad to be in time Bill๐Ÿ‘
    Alternative is to get yourself one of those dual Schottkys (min 20A), bolt it on a lump of ally or copper and stick it on a chunk of veroboard with some screw connectors or fly leads!
    There's nowt else to it!
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Naxos - Main Battery
    2 years ago by billmcl61 ( Warrant Officer)
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    Ah Doug thank you for this warning about batteries in parallel, I'm planning on doing just that with the "flower",
    I'll have to get one of these modules.

    Bill
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Naxos - Main Battery
    2 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Main battery!! What calibre Hec? 14, 15 inch?
    Secondary battery 6 or 5 inch?๐Ÿ˜
    Seriously though folks ๐Ÿค“
    I heartily agree with Ken about useful ballast instead of 'dead lead'๐Ÿ‘
    But-
    "I could even parallel them for approximately twice the ah rating."
    As I've posted often before; please don't do that, or there will still be a good chance of your prised model ending up a pile of cinders, or a soggy mess at the bottom of the lake๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜ญ
    If you MUST do it, please put some fast Schottky power diodes between the two positive terminals. This stops one battery from trying to charge the other (if they are not absolutely identical in all respects - which they won't be) and potentially causing high currents to flow and overheating the wiring. Easiest way to do it is with the little Power Distribution Board from Action Electronics - Component Shop.
    https://www.componentshop.co.uk/p103-parallel-power-board.ht...
    Cheap enough for peace of mind ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    https://www.componentshop.co.uk/p103-parallel-power-board.html
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Naxos - Main Battery
    2 years ago by KenThompson ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Hecrowell,, Iโ€™m all for making the most of what I can, I would use SLA, can be used as ballast as well as power supply. So making it double useful.
    Ken
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    ๐Ÿ“ Naxos - latest progress
    2 years ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Well,gave the old girl a waterline. Levelled her up and used my cheapir lazer level. Even though it checks level, it looks like it swoops down 1/4โ€ to 3/8โ€ about a quarter of the way back from th stem...just doesnt look quite right sideview.
    Next I finished the decking. All straight runs were easy, but cutting, trimming and fitting the pieces between the uprights was slow work, and a real pain. If I had to do it again, I would have added them after. Hindsight!
    Next, the prop arrived so now she has propulsion. Should have rethought the stuffing box a bit more and got a 30cm unit instead of the 25cm because it is nearly impossible to get at the set screw for the U joint. It would be reachable with a โ€œtโ€ handle Allen key or at least a long Allen key down through the hole in the deck for the mast. Will put a collar at the bottom of the mast to prevent the mast from slipping down through the deck. The sidestays and forestay are used for holding the mast upright.

    So, thatโ€™s it for this post.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Naxos - latest progress
    2 years ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hey - Martin
    i tend to agree with you 100% on the WL looking low. It is very close to where it shows on the plan. Maybe I didnโ€™t weight her enough during the float test and I marked it with pencil during the float test at the stem and stern.
    Anyway, will have another look at it with radio gear and batteries. Maybe I will have to mix lead shot and glue to get her to sit so she looks good and mark the WL from that.

    Anyway, thanks for your input...appreciated.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Naxos - latest progress
    2 years ago by Newby7 ( Admiral)
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    I'm with you on finding that we should have done something a little differently.We find out after the fact .Hind sight is 20/20.Good looking build.
    Rick
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    2 years ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi hecrowell,
    I don't know if it is the way you have taken the photos but the waterline looks a little low.
    Or it is me knowing nothing about this boat.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Naxos - Paint Shop
    2 years ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Took the old girl into the paint shop today. Hull is a tan colour with teal roof and white superstructure
    Now waiting for the portholes to come in then Will do the window glazing (plastic, of course) And paint the interior.
    So far, so good, and I am actually quite proud of my โ€œgirlโ€
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    2 years ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hey Ken
    Thanks for the comment on the paint. AllI can tell you is good old Rustoleum spray paint, calm winds and a nice dry sunshine day, and outhouse luck. Hope it donโ€™t look too good though or I will have to convert her to a yacht, har! har!
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    2 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Thank you Colin๐Ÿ˜€
    Sorry to read of your recent discombobulation ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    But pleased to see that you are 'rising from the ashes' with your usual spirit๐Ÿ‘
    'You can't keep a good man down'!
    You are an inspiration to us all๐Ÿ˜‰
    BRAVO ZULU.
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Naxos - Paint Shop
    2 years ago by Colin H ( Admiral)
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    Welcome back Doug, we've missed your wit and fair comments.
    Cheers Colin.
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    2 years ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "Took the old girl into the paint shop today. Hull is a tan colour ..."
    Nice one Hec, way to go๐Ÿ‘
    But wouldn't your ol' lady have been happier acquiring a tan just lying in the sun?
    Optionally with a daiquiri or some such?
    I see you've given her a nice luminescent blue bikini though๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
    PS Thanks for the smile activator๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜Š
    (Something had to drag me out of my shell/Slough of Despond!)
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    2 years ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    She is coming along very nicely indeed.
    And you should be proud of what you have achieved so far.

    Martin555.
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    2 years ago by KenThompson ( Lieutenant)
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    Paint job looks brilliant, whatโ€™s your secret?
    Cheers
    Ken
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    2 years ago by Newby7 ( Admiral)
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    Feeling proud and so you should be nice looking boat.
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ“ NAXOS - 20/11/14
    2 years ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Was a busy day for real life things so just put the top rail and tidied up a few other things. Also, removed the decking experiment - didnโ€™t like it. Will get some 1/8 x 3/8 basswood For decking.
    The coffee is to give you guys the impression that I donโ€™t just work on my boat ..... I do other things as awll, haw, haw, haw!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: NAXOS - 20/11/14
    2 years ago by Newby7 ( Admiral)
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    That's the good thing when you build if you don't like do it over .Good wor k so far.
    Rick
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