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    SLEC Harbour Pilots Boat by Robbob
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    ๐Ÿ“ The Final Reveal.
    1 month ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi All.
    The Southampton Pilots Boat is finally finished and I'm eagerly awaiting the first opportunity to do some 'sea trials'.
    Meanwhile here are some photographs of the finished article.

    I have added a short video to show the functional features (lighting and radar).

    I'm very grateful for your continued interest and I hope you have enjoyed my build blog.
    Thank you ๐Ÿ˜€.
    Rob.
    Southampton Pilot Boat 'Hamstead'
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    5 days ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Thank you for your kind words Martin.
    I'm extremely pleased with the final look of the Pilot Boat and can't wait to see it running sometime soon.
    Next project...?
    Something is in the pipeline but there's been a small blockage caused by Covid โ˜น๏ธ
    Hopefully something very soon ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Rob.
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    6 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Rob,
    Well i have now caught up on this excellent build log.

    What can i say.
    Absolutely fantastic.

    To see the finished model is just like seeing the real thing.
    You must be extremely pleased with all of your hard work.

    To me what i like the most is the fact that you took the time to make all the fitting, you are a very skilful and talented man.
    (And not a 3D Printed piece anywhere in sight.)

    Now to the question that every member is dying to know.

    What is the next project going to be ?

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    27 days ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Tony.
    You did a great job on the Police Launch ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    Given your former profession I would expect you to do justice to the type of craft ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    27 days ago by UncleT ( Leading Seaman)
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    Hi Rob
    No pressure then!!
    I have completed the Police launch I will post the photos of this, again happy with the outcome, gaining more experience with slight improvement in the build so hopefully the Pilot boat will be a triumph.

    Tony
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    27 days ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi UncleT.
    Thanks for the compliment ๐Ÿ˜Š.
    I saw the great job that you made of your Crash Tender so I've got high expectations of your new Pilot Boat project.
    In your Crash Tender blog you mentioned a Police Boat as being another boat ready to be started, did you get around to building that yet?
    Kind Regards.
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    27 days ago by UncleT ( Leading Seaman)
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    What a lovely boat really nice detail I actually have just started my build of the same model and I will be copying some of your build mods. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    30 days ago by Cashrc ( Commander)
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    Beautiful work!! I especially like how clean the the installation and wiring is below decks. Like my hot rod buddies would say, thatโ€™s Kustom with a K!! Outstanding!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    30 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Another museum quality job Rob ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    Fabuloso! Thanks for Le Grand dรฉnouement.
    Have fun with the gardening ๐Ÿค”
    I've postponed mine again ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‚ we're currently having a minor ice age hereโ„๏ธ๐ŸŒง๏ธ!
    Coupla weeks ago 20ยฐ and things starting to bloom, now -5 to +5ยฐ with sleet and snow๐Ÿ™„
    Bet your mind will be on the next creation - not the digging!
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    30 days ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Thank you Graham.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    30 days ago by Graham93 ( Captain)
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    Fabulous finish Rob.๐Ÿ‘ Just love all the small details. Great photos to show off the completed model. Well done๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

    Graham93
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    1 month ago by Missouri ( Master Seaman)
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    Excellent!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    1 month ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Thanks for your kind words Sy.
    I'd like to remind you that your conversion of a dull looking boat into something infinitely better was the inspiration for me to follow your lead and completely scratch build a whole new cabin for my boat too.
    And I'm so glad that I did ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘.
    (Of course if it turned out all wrong I would have blamed you for it ๐Ÿ˜œ)
    Cheers.
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    1 month ago by Skydive130 ( Commodore)
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    Simply stunning Rob, itโ€™s been a pleasure watching this build as with your others. It just goes to show what can be achieved with a basic starting point ending up with a true one off replica of the real think. Lost for words my friend ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘
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    1 month ago by stevedownunder ( Midshipman)
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    Simply beautiful Rob,

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    1 month ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Sorry Rob, that's far too nice, you're going to have to start again๐Ÿ˜

    JB
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    1 month ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
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    Master piece Rob The detail is so good .
    Rick
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    1 month ago by Ygagnon ( Master Seaman)
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    I have look at all of your build, your technique and the end result is just fantastic
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    1 month ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Cargoman.
    You're quite correct as everything above deck level, with the exception of two small fairleads, is scratch built from wood, brass or styrene and I learned a whole lot of new methods and techniques for working with those materials during the process. I'm well pleased with the end results but it took a long time to get there. Almost 12 months to the day in fact ๐Ÿ˜ฎ.
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    1 month ago by Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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    Modelling at it's best, a beautiful facsimile of a real working craft, if it was mine, I would go to the pilot boats base at Southampton, to show them, I am sure they would be very impressed.๐Ÿ‘

    Cheers, Pete
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    1 month ago by Cargoman ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Followed your build all along thing that stands out is the fact that you did not have any commercial fittings they are all hand made as there would not be anything out there, so all credit to your building skills and the overall look of the boat. And good photos as well.
    Regards Cargoman
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    1 month ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Mike.
    Thanks for the kind words of praise, if all goes well I'm hoping to show it at our St.Albans club show in September.
    The next project is still 'in limbo' at the moment so I'm getting on with some long neglected gardening and DIY.
    Rob.
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    1 month ago by mistyoptic ( Warrant Officer)
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    Thank you for such great inspiration,

    Geoff
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    1 month ago by Colin H ( Rear Admiral)
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    That's a superb model? or is it real but out of the water.
    Fantastic job and a true masterclass.
    Cheers Colin.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Final Reveal.
    1 month ago by mturpin013 ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Rob glad to see the finished article, what a superb job you must be really pleased with your achievement, I'd love to see it in person, some day maybe.
    We are still waiting to see the next project, any clues?
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    ๐Ÿ“ The Anchor.
    1 month ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    The only fitting missing from the deck now is an anchor that is stowed within the front โ€˜pulpitโ€™.

    Iโ€™m guessing that as the Southampton Pilot Boats are always moored at their base in Gosport at the mouth of Portsmouth Harbour thereโ€™s very little need for an anchor unless they need to hold fast in open water. This also probably accounts for the absence of a permanent rope of chain attached to the anchor and I suppose that it is stored in a locker somewhere on the boat.

    The Gosport base can be seen in Google Maps in the link.

    I found some good drawings of the plough anchor on the web and started by sketching out the shape of the plough blade and transferring it to a piece of paper (Post-it-Note), folding it and placing it on the deck to see if the scale was about right by comparison to the โ€˜photos I had. The shank of the anchor was sketched and sized in the same way.

    Once happy with the sizing I transferred the shapes to a piece of 1.5mm styrene sheet and cut them out roughly to shape with a knife and then refined them with files and abrasive paper.
    The plough blade needed to be bent along the centre line and I found the best way to do this was to apply heat to a thin metal edge (short ruler) and using that to โ€˜hot bendโ€™ the blade to the correct angle and then the wings of the blade were then gently heated and given a slight curvature too.

    The shank was cut to form the hinge and further laminated with 1.5mm styrene to thicken the section and provide a means of attachment to the blade. The hinge was fitted with a brass pin as a pivot and then the shank refined with files and abrasives.
    I made a shackle from a short piece of styrene sheet heated and bent over the ruler edge and then drilled and fitted with a brass hinge pin.

    The finished shank was then glued to the blade and left to set firmly after which the whole piece was cleaned up with and abrasive pad and then painted with some Halfords metallic silver.

    Thereโ€™s no rope or chain permanently attached to the anchor and it is held down on the deck by some retaining straps within the confines of the front pulpit and so mine is fixed down with some brass wire โ€˜staplesโ€™ painted gunmetal grey with the anchor sitting on some thin rubber dots cut from a neoprene sealing ring and glued to the deck with some canopy glue.
    The hinge of the anchor was also set into a fixed position with a dab of canopy glue just to immobilise the hinge to stop it moving on the deck.

    One last small detailโ€ฆthe addition of some black self-adhesive vinyl to the front and side air vents and intakes improves the look and gives them the appearance of internal depth.

    As soon as circumstances permit Iโ€™ll do some action photoโ€™s and video of the boat on the water but in the meantime Iโ€™ll try to do some decent photos as a final reveal.
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/50%C2%B047'28.1%22N+1%C2%B006'51.6%22W/@50.7914979,-1.1160565,446m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m14!1m7!3m6!1s0x4874687e6af10149:0x6d3fd9d771d90367!2sPortsmouth+Harbour!3b1!8m2!3d50.8439183!4d-1.1576504!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d50.7911397!4d-1.1143418
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Anchor.
    1 month ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Well it works in as much as the shank articulates ๐Ÿ˜€.
    Happily I didn't have to make any chain, although I did make some ages ago for the fire hose couplings on my Crash Tender using the same method as yours ๐Ÿ˜.
    Rob.
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    1 month ago by Graham93 ( Captain)
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    Rob,

    I wouldn't say that. It's exactly what is needed for your model, and you didn't need to make it 'work'๐Ÿ˜

    Graham93
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    1 month ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Thanks Graham...I think it turned out OK.
    Not as good as your 'all action' one though ๐Ÿ˜‰.
    Rob.
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    1 month ago by Graham93 ( Captain)
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    Nice looking anchor Rob (looks familiar ๐Ÿ˜‰)

    Graham93
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    1 month ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Nice work Rob, looks great!

    JB
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    1 month ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Sy.
    I do have something lined up but there's been some production delays so I'll probably give it a bit of a break for a bit and get back on track with DIY and gardening in the interim.
    I'll post some 'reveal' pictures soon as I've set up a 'photo studio' to take some decent shots ๐Ÿ˜€.
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Anchor.
    1 month ago by Skydive130 ( Commodore)
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    Hi Rob, donโ€™t dangle that carrot any longer, get that final reveal revealed! Anchor is just the ticket. Iโ€™ve spent far too much time in the past trying to find ready made items to go on my models, when in fact most can be made with a little time, patience, research and though.

    Any plans on a next project or will you be taking a breather? If you like me, you probably have the next 2-3 projects lined up ๐Ÿ˜‚

    Kind regards Sy
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    ๐Ÿ“ The Roof Vents
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Following Skydive130โ€™s tutorial on the making of the roof vents for his Pilot Boat I had several attempts to make the roof ventilators using his method, none of which I was entirely satisfied with and so I decided to adopt a slightly different approach.

    I did some research into the actual size, shape and workings of these things and found sufficient information on the web about them ๐Ÿค“.

    Known as โ€˜Dorade Box Ventilatorsโ€™ they are designed to admit air flow and funnel it through the device to the cabin interior and at the same time to block the ingress of water by using a clever valve mechanism with the water draining away through slots on the base.
    Not that much of that was relevant to making them but identifying the type, and then the manufacturer, and finding drawings was a great deal more help than the grainy low resolution photographs that I was looking at previously.

    With a much clearer idea of what they should look like from the info I found I started by laminating some square section styrene for the bases and cutting them into blocks of an approximate length.
    Thereโ€™s a raised circular section at each end of the ventilators and I simulated those with some 8mm and 6mm styrene rod and then trimmed the blocks to a rough tapered shape with a knife using the circular pieces as a guide.
    Further shaping was done using a sanding plate, file and abrasive to shape the bases with a taper in length and in height. I also filed some bevels on the underside of these bases to simulate the water drainage slots.

    The bases for the two ventilators on the forward engine room roof are circular in shape and were easily made from some 10mm diameter rod that I was able to โ€˜turnโ€™ to a tapered shape in the chuck of my makeshift Black and Decker โ€˜latheโ€™.

    A distinctive feature of these ventilators is the air intake funnel that has a particular shape which I wanted to look as realistic as possible and involved multiple experiments to get a repeatable method.
    These parts were made from 8mm styrene tube and being a thermoplastic it can be readily heated and formed and to form the distinctive mouth shape of the intakes I made a wooden former suitably carved and shaped that could be pushed into the end of the styrene tube during the heating stage and using finger pressure mould the walls of the styrene tube around the wooden former.
    The end of the former has a rounded end that will stretch and distort the plastic so that the tubing can be bent to 90 degrees while maintaining the curved shape.
    The styrene cools and hardens very rapidly and so it took many attempts to form the desired shape successfully and I must have used almost a complete 300mm length of 8mm styrene tube perfecting a technique to form the piece in a repeatable way.
    Probably a dozen or more such pieces went into the bin until I was happy with a repeatable process ๐Ÿ˜ฅ.
    As I need six of these ventilators I was very careful to perfect this without running out of material ๐Ÿ˜ฎ.

    Each piece needed to be trimmed at each side of the bend and the โ€˜mouthโ€™ heated and refined on the wooden former. The base end of the piece was re-heated and reformed into a roughly circular shape so that it mounts neatly on the 8mm raised disc at the large end of the tapered base.
    This was not a particularly easy process at all and a few ended up in the bin after the repeated heating and forming rendered them irretrievably miss-shaped as can be seen in one of the pictures โ˜น๏ธ.

    I probably spent a whole day making eight usable pieces (six to use and two for spares) but I was determined to see it through despite aching and burnt fingers ๐Ÿ˜ข.

    After a final trim and clean-up with file and abrasives they were glued to the ventilator bases and left to set.

    I used a โ€˜ScotchBriteโ€™ type abrasive pad to clean the completed parts and to provide a key for the white gloss paint.
    One good thing about styrene is that itโ€™s not always necessary to spray a primer coat if the surfaces are well keyed.

    The mouths of the vents were painted inside with satin matt black as a finishing touch and a 1.5mm brass rod superglued into the base as a fixing pin.
    After careful measurement and positioning the roof was drilled to take the brass fixing pins and a dab of canopy glue used to secure them in place.
    The forward vents on the engine room roof are fixed in the same way but I had to add a reinforcing piece of ply on the inside as the roof there is only a 1.5mm ply panel.

    I had been putting off making these vents for a while and now that they are made and fitted they do look quite good and Iโ€™m very satisfied with the end results ๐Ÿ˜Š.
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Mike.
    Thanks for the kind words ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘.
    I'm very pleased with the final look of the model particularly when I compare it with the 'standard' cabin and features.
    There's only the anchor to add to the blog and it's ready for the final reveal.
    I might get some flags made and definitely make a proper display stand as there's a reasonable chance that I can show it at the club exhibition in September if conditions allow it ๐Ÿคž.
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by mturpin013 ( Rear Admiral)
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    Great job Rob, I think all has been said about quality, ingenuity, perseverance, and down right "I will do it if it kills me"!
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    2 months ago by Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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    Quite agree with you Rob, making a one off is relatively easy (for some) as far as making duplicates, I would make a silicon mold, then cast extras with polyurethane resin, after making a master, then you are sure of the ones you require are identical.๐Ÿ˜Š

    Cheers, Pete
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Stephen.
    Very true, making a one-off piece is relatively easy but multiple identical pieces of this nature 'ain't so easy ๐Ÿค”.
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by stevedownunder ( Midshipman)
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    Hi Rob,

    Lovely work, making one of something is relatively easy making 6 the same is a whole different thing...

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Thank you Sy.
    I'm quite chuffed too....๐Ÿ˜
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Graham.
    Fortunately my fingers largely survived the ordeal and as mentioned it took the best part of a day to produce sufficient usable pieces.
    At one point I did consider making a corresponding female pattern so that I could mould the required shape in one heating cycle but the idea died in my realisation that it was not really a practical solution.
    But perseverance and patience paid off ...eventually ๐Ÿ˜‹
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by Skydive130 ( Commodore)
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    Well theyโ€™ve come out rather well Rob, hats off to you my freind ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜‚
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    2 months ago by Graham93 ( Captain)
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    Very nice Rob ๐Ÿ‘,

    Your fingers donโ€™t look too charred ๐Ÿคฃ Not easy thermo-forming plastic like that to get a repeatable shape. Easy to get a shape you donโ€™t want ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Just shows what you can achieve with a bit of patience and perseverance.

    Graham93
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi JB.
    Yes they were a bit of a challenge, that's why I'd put off doing them for some time until I'd found the best way to make them.
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Excellent job on the vents Rob, -very smart. Tricky things to make!

    JB
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    ๐Ÿ“ The Roof Handrail, Mast & Rigging.
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    A little more detailing as I get closer to finishing this epic build ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Thereโ€™s a short handrail on the roof above the cabin door, very simply made from a short length of 2mm brass formed at each end and finished with a soldered brass washer. A couple of coats of silver and clear lacquer had the handrail finished in no time and it was glued into a couple of holes drilled in the roof panel.

    The mast was finally glued into the cabin roof, this mast has been purposely made shorter than โ€˜scaleโ€™ for practical reasons so that the boat can be stored in a large plastic storage box with the mast and rigging in place but with the mast antenna removed from its magnetic holder as described in an earlier blog update.

    For the rigging I obtained some turned brass โ€˜eyesโ€™ from RB Model (Poland) which are perfect for a number of features on the cabin and engine room roofs, they were painted with an etch primer and then some VW Brilliant Orange.
    Two were used on the rear of the roof for a couple of flag lines that run up to the mast, these were extended with a short piece of styrene tube so that the rigging cord does not foul on the edge of the roof and were simply โ€˜self-tappedโ€™ into a couple of holes either side of the roof handrail.

    After very careful measurement and marking using a paper template four more โ€˜eyesโ€™ were fixed into the roof through some 1.5mm holes pin drilled through the roof panel.

    In addition to the flag lines the mast has four lines of rigging โ€˜staysโ€™ that extend down to the roof and these were made from some .8mm diameter black elasticated cord which was looped through holes in the mast reinforcing gussets and down to the brass eyes in the roof and finished at each end with some 1.4mm black heat shrink tubing.
    A piece of paper was used to shield the roof from the heat of the soldering iron tip to protect the paint on the roof during the shrinkingโ€ฆ.damaging that now would be a disaster โ˜น๏ธ!!

    All of the rigging cords were tensioned sufficiently before fixing to remain taught for, hopefully, some reasonable time (years I hope!) although I have plenty of the elasticated nylon cord to replace the rigging a few hundred times over!!

    Four more of the brass eyes were used to simulate the lifting eyes of the removable roof section of the forward engine room, again simply self-tapped into holes drilled through the 1.5mm ply panel.

    I may do some additional research to identify the correct flags that should go on this boat and get some made up in silk as a nice finishing detail.

    All that remains are the roof ventilators, I dreaded making those and left them โ€˜till almost last ๐Ÿ˜จ, and the anchor.๐Ÿ˜
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Doug.
    "Cos your updates are never boring (What never? Well, hardly ever!"
    Very diplomatic...๐Ÿ˜‰
    Yes, RB Model do a really nice range of small fittings but their stock levels aren't always great, some of their items are available from UK outlets but at about four times the price!
    Delivery from Poland is usually no more than a week and postage charges are very reasonable too.
    As you say....highly recommendable ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Missouri.
    You're quite right, the threads are quite long but the roof has been 'thickened' in areas where these fittings were planned to go so there's actually very little protrusion inside the cabin apart from the engine roof lifting eyes which were trimmed back.
    The brass was actually quite brittle when cut, the work hardening from being machined and the 'rolled-on' thread would account for that.
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by Missouri ( Master Seaman)
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    Those eyes have a lot of thread, just begging to be cut down first! Looking good.
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    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Excellent work Rob,
    I like it when a boat gets to doing the fiddly bits.
    And you a quite the master of the fiddly bits now.

    Martin555.
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    2 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    My 'hooks' are well and truly 'tentered' Rob ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    Cos your updates are never boring (What never? Well, hardly ever! ๐Ÿ˜)
    BTW: I've used RB Model in Poland before as well.
    They have an excellent range of fiddly bits and pieces, tiny nuts and bolts etc and also some good scale metal parts for kit upgrades.
    Highly recommendable.
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    https://www.rbmodel.com/index.php?action=products&cat=news
    https://www.rbmodel.com/index.php?action=products&cat=c_ep
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Got me bang to rights Doug....guilty as charged ๐Ÿ˜”.
    On a serious note though, having the luxury of no deadline to hit and time to experiment with detailing does stretch my modelling ability and now I find I'm able to scratch build some quite difficult pieces (for me that is) as you might see in the next (boring) update.๐Ÿ˜
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "Besides I'm still waiting for the next 'project' to be delivered so until then ......."
    -->>
    'I'll keep on fiddling about with this one!' ๐Ÿ˜
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ......don't you dare Sy๐Ÿ˜œ.
    Be patient....just a couple more boring updates then all will be revealed.
    Besides I'm still waiting for the next 'project' to be delivered so until then .......๐Ÿ˜‰
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    2 months ago by Skydive130 ( Commodore)
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    Rob, how much longer can you milk this build, get it revealed already or Iโ€™ll finish my Shannon before you on purpose! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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    ๐Ÿ“ Installing the Lighting.
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Getting very close to completing my Southampton Pilot Boat and time to do the final installation of the lighting system.

    I designed, built and tested the lighting circuit board some time ago along with the navigation lights, searchlights and deck floodlights so now itโ€™s time to fit it all into the cabin.

    I started by sticking down four cable tie bases to the inside of the cabin and securing the circuit board to them with some cable ties. The first lights to be fitted were the port and starboard navigation lights and these are simply glued in place with some canopy glue with the wires passing through the cabin roof.

    Iโ€™m using small dabs of canopy glue in preference to epoxy because any surplus glue can be easy cleaned off with a damp tissue, dries clear and doesnโ€™t form an aggressive bond as it could be necessary to remove a light fitting at some later dateโ€ฆa good decision as Iโ€™ll explain later.

    The mast was next, I made this a friction fit for now as I will need to remove it at a later stage to add some additional roof details.
    The eight deck level floodlights were given a final bit of detailing and a coat of clear lacquer before being fixed in place with a light dab of canopy glue and by now I had quite a bundle of loose wires inside the cabin!

    The two roof mounted searchlights were next, once again fixed with canopy glue and both angled outward by virtue of the angled bases I had built in.

    The final light was a rear deck high level floodlight made in much the same way as the other floods but with a much shallower profile and with a fixing flange on the underside. Running the wires from this fitting was not particularly easy in order to conceal them but I managed it with the aid of some epoxy glue and paint.

    There were quite a few wires to be tidied up and formed into โ€˜loomsโ€™ so they were labelled to identify them and tacked with dabs of hot glue and also fed through some cable clips. The cable looms were arranged so that they all arrived on the correct side of the circuit board according to their function and then some heat shrink sleeves used to consolidate them into two separate bundles.

    Each of the cable pairs were terminated with a two pin socket and connected to the corresponding circuit board mounted plug according to its function and each light has a separate current limiting resistor. The wires from the radar motor also connect to this circuit board.

    All of the lighting circuits are carried through a ribbon cable to a multi-pin plug and socket to make connection with the lighting battery supply, R/C switches and Radar control board.

    Testing the system threw up a few problems, the first being a dry joint on the radar circuit that meant that the radar motor operated intermittently and a similar problem with the navigation light circuit too. The common denominator to these problems was the 9 pin connector ๐Ÿ˜ .

    The solder connections of the very fine ribbon cable conductors to the pins of the 9 pin multi-plug were proving to be a little too fragile so I changed the โ€˜solder bucketโ€™ type of plug to an IDC (Insulation Displacement Connector) which has a much more robust cable clamping system and this cured the problems.

    The second issue was that two of the deck level floodlight were not working and after testing it was evident that the SMT LEDโ€™s had failed ๐Ÿ˜ก (despite being tested thoroughly during the making of) and the remedy for this meant removing the faulty lights and replacing them with the two spare units that I had the foresight to make for that very reason, but leaving me with no further spares!
    Similarly the use of canopy glue fix the all the lights was a good decision as they were fairly easy to remove without much trauma ๐Ÿ˜….

    With all the lighting on the boat looks really good in the darkness of my study and the floodlights look to give deck a fairly well spread of light all around the cabin and the rear high-level flood illuminating the stern very nicely too ๐Ÿ˜Š
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Doug.
    Ah.....I see what Geoff was getting at...sorry, my bad !
    Thinking about it a zener diode will sort of do the job too, albeit very crude and not too stable.
    As for the switched radar motor....my choice, and I'm happy with it ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Rob,
    Re "I would not really want to wire LED's in series for the sake of the cost of a few resistors ..."
    I believe Geoff was referring to the radar drive not the LEDs.
    I've often wondered, with some bemusement, why some folks waste effort and money on gear motors, and above all voltage reducers and RC switches for radar drives. Not to mention wasting an RC channel for the RC switch๐Ÿ™„
    The radar on my HMS Hotspur destroyer is driven by the motor from an obsolete linear servo.
    Found a pair in a local flea market, with curious round 8 pin connectors like a mini DIN plug.

    So I disconnected the electronics and just ran the motor on a standard 1.5V alkaline C cell.
    As Geoff suggests, a single AA or AAA cell would also do the job nicely.
    Runs and runs and runs for yonks and a day ๐Ÿ˜€ Servo motors are normally rated for 5V.
    Switching on is by pushing the battery down into it's holder, switch off by pulling it out.
    Couldn't be simpler or cheaper ๐Ÿ˜
    Even the battery holder is just a balsa box glued into the keel with two contacts cut from 0.5ย mm brass sheet.

    I really can't see the point of an RC switch for radar.
    Any self-respecting skipper will have his radars running long before he casts off.
    And he will want to keep it running until he's once again safely berthed and tied up.
    So that RC switch could be used for some other function which is not permanently needed as radar is.
    That's my 'umble opinion, and I'm stuck with it!๐Ÿ˜
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Cash.
    I'm pleased that you like what you've read so far...๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Š
    There's not much more detail to add now, but all rather intricate ๐Ÿ˜€.
    I hope you enjoy reading the rest of my build blog ๐Ÿค“.
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by Cashrc ( Commander)
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    Sheโ€™s looking good!!! Havenโ€™t read all your posts yet, but Iโ€™m very impressed with your lighting work and fittings. Keep it up!!
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Geoff.
    I would not really want to wire LED's in series for the sake of the cost of a few resistors as any single LED failure would result in the whole circuit going down and then tracking down the culprit.....a bit like the old Christmas tree lights problem....a nightmare ๐Ÿ˜ฑ.
    I tend to design and build with 'good practice' and reparability as a major priority.
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by mistyoptic ( Warrant Officer)
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    Why not use a single cell, AA or AAA, alternatively the forward voltage drop across a diode is about 0.7v, 3 or 4 in series would drop the voltage to either 2.7v or 2.00v .
    Geoff.
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Ha Ha....only 14 Led's and all running off a 6v NiMh auxiliary battery so not a great deal of power required actually.

    It does look good when it's all lit up though ๐Ÿ˜.
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    2 months ago by mturpin013 ( Rear Admiral)
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    I assume the power generator will be towed behind Rob?
    Nice work Rob.
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Sy.
    I think Action Electronics make a voltage reducer too but Martin's suggestion might work if you remove the end stops from the gearing.
    I've never tried what he is suggesting but it's certainly worth a try !
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi JB.
    Thank you for the kind words.
    The neat wiring comes from my telecoms and broadcast engineering background so it feels instinctive to carry that discipline through with things like this.
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Sy,

    I have power a radar using a striped down servo.
    The motor gets controlled by the servo PCB and to regulate the speed just set the pot.
    using the pot you can also reverse the direction of travel.
    Sorry to jump in with my size nines Rob.

    Martin555.
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    2 months ago by Skydive130 ( Commodore)
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    You and Mike seem to excel at those intricate wiring looms, I take my hat off to the pair of you, stunning !

    Can I please pose a question Rob as you seem to know your electrics. On my Shannon lifeboat, I plan to use a tiny motor from a 5G servo to power my radar, simply because I can conceal it in the Furuno radar box below the radar. However, when I tested it on 4.8v, itโ€™s rotation was supersonic, so I would need to power it down to 1-1.5v. Is there such a thing as a tiny voltage reducer I can use inline coming from the 6v battery that Iโ€™m going to power the lights from using a action electonics light switch unit. Thank you in advance for any thoughts ๐Ÿ‘
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Lights are excellent Rob, but I'm afraid the wiring is far too tidy for me! ๐Ÿ˜‚

    JB
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    ๐Ÿ“ Bollards & Fairleads
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Although I could buy some ready-made bollards I couldnโ€™t find of any of the right style and scale to resemble the bollards on the Southampton Pilot Boats so I decided to make some from styrene now that I am feeling more confident working with plastics.
    Fortunately I had the right sizes of styrene rod in my materials collection for the job and so to start I made the rectangular bases first from some 2mm styrene sheet.
    Some 4mm styrene rod was bored out with a 3.2mm drill bit in a pin vice and some 3.2mm rod inserted through two pieces and glued in place with the correct spacing to form the cross pieces.
    I chose to trim all of the upright posts to length after this process as drilling them accurately at the correct heights was proving to be very difficult, it was far easier to get the basic piece together with the correct horizontal spacing of the posts first and trim to height later.

    The trimmed pieces were then glued to the bases and when set the horizontal bars were trimmed and filed to length. To finish the pieces off I cut some very short sections of 4mm tube and 5mm rod to cap all of the ends and sanded them down to the desired thickness.
    I used the tube as I didnโ€™t have any of the right size rod for the horizontal caps but after glueing they were filled with some Humbrol filler.
    After cleaning up all of the bollards they were given a couple of coats of Halfords metallic silver and gloss lacquer.

    I donโ€™t want to rely on just glue to fix the bollards to the deck so I pin drilled up through the bases and into all of the uprights so that I could insert a piece of 1.5mm brass rod to form fixing pins that will go through the deck skins and into the ply panels beneath them for a good mechanical fixing in addition to the glue.

    To ensure accurate positioning of the fittings I made up some paper drilling templates and then drilled the deck to take the 1.5mm pins. The front and rear bollards were all glued in place with canopy glue for ease of clean-up with water if any oozed out onto the textured deck surface.
    The side bollards were glued into the cabin recesses with canopy glue but for those I used some epoxy to secure the pins on the underside of the cabin deck. I was then finally able to glue the front pulpit and rear railings into the deck, again using canopy glue.

    For the fairleads I thought I would definitely cheat and use some really good ready-made ones cast in white met that I have previously used on my RAF Crash Tender.
    These fairleads were very generously supplied to me by Mike Cummings at Vintage Model Works and they are a perfect style and size for my needs and only required a bit of fettling to remove casting marks.

    Thanks Mike...much appreciated ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘

    They were etch primed and then brush painted with some Tamiya acrylic โ€˜Gun Metalโ€™ paint and when dry, drilled pinned into the deck in the same way as the bollards.
    That very much completes the deck fitting with the exception of an anchor which can be seen in โ€˜photos of the real boats.
    Itโ€™s a โ€˜Ploughโ€™ type anchor and should be fairly easy to fabricate.......I hope ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿ˜€
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Hi Rob, true, a lot of people forget that you're only sticking to paint. It's like I used to say to people building planes, when you join the wings, unless you use f/glass tape a few inches either side of center, it's only the thickness of the balsa sheeting on the wing and the strength of the 2 center ribs (usually balsa) stopping the wing from clapping hands in a quick pull-up.

    I usually pin my handrails, bollards etc, especially if they might get used at some stage. In the early days, Graupner used to mould their plastic handrails, fairleads etc with small pins for the same reason. The handrails on my Optimist for eg, had pins which you had to drill holes through the ABS cabin roof for, to secure them. Doubt whether you'd see that much thought going into a kit today, (perhaps only the very expensive ones).

    JB
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Missouri.
    "Very nice bit of fiddly fabrication"
    Very fiddly indeed and I have to say that I do find making multiple identical items very tedious indeed. โ˜น๏ธ
    I've just finished making the roof ventilators and they were a real test of dexterity and patience ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi JB.

    "Good idea pinning the bollards and fairleads Rob"

    The pins are absolutely necessary JB otherwise the fixing to the deck is only as strong as the bond between the fitting and the layer of paint on the deck. And it's one of many things that would be just as vulnerable that I have added a mechanical fixing in addition to the glue. ๐Ÿ˜€
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by Missouri ( Master Seaman)
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    Very nice bit of fiddly fabrication - again. I know how tedious it can be to make multiple copies of the same thing.๐Ÿ‘
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    2 months ago by Graham93 ( Captain)
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    Nice build Rob,

    Very satisfying to make your own fittings. You can build exactly what you need so it looks right, ๐Ÿ‘ and it usually costs less ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ even if it takes more time. Something many of us have too much of with the current lockdown๐Ÿ™„

    Graham93
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Good idea pinning the bollards and fairleads Rob, never know when you might want to anchor up or tow something. Bollards look good.

    JB
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Martin.
    A good tip and worth bearing in mind for the future..thanks ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘.
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Sy.
    Yes, it's very satisfying to make your own. The commercially made ones are very expensive and rarely the right size or scale.
    Rob

    PS.. I'm finally having some good success now with the making of the roof ventilatiors ๐Ÿค—
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nice work Rob.

    When i have made Bollards like that i normally drill through base plate then when i have made the cross piece and uprights, i then fit them to the base plate so that they go through.
    Make sure they are level then when the glue has dried sand or file flush to the underside of the base plate.

    Sorry a bit late with this tip.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bollards & Fairleads
    2 months ago by Skydive130 ( Commodore)
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    So satisfying making your own Rob, and saves a fortune on what I quite expensive, and thatโ€™s if you can even find the right size!
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    ๐Ÿ“ The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Either side of the radar unit are a Foghorn and a Loudhailer which are nice small details to add to the roof of the cabin ๐Ÿ”ˆ ๐Ÿ“ข ๐Ÿ˜€

    Cheating slightlyโ€ฆI used a couple of ready-made units from RB Model (based in Poland) as a starting point as they are just about the right scale and made from turned aluminium and brass to a high standard.

    The foghorn needed very little modification other than a supporting leg at the โ€˜loudโ€™ end and a few coats of Halfords โ€˜Appliance Whiteโ€™ gloss paint.

    The Loudhailer on the other hand needed a great deal more modifying to convert it from a foghorn.

    I started by cutting off the flared tube halfway down its length and flatting the flared end to increase its surface area so that I could superglue a 3mm thick piece of styrene to it which, when set firmly, I could roughly shape using a Stanley knife to extend the flare of the aluminium horn onto the styrene and also trim it to a circular shape.
    Prior to gluing this piece on I had drilled a 5mm hole through it which I will later open up to create the internal flare.
    I put this piece into the chuck of my crude Black & Decker horizontal drill holder โ€˜latheโ€™ and shaped the styrene end with files and abrasives to blend the metal and plastic together to form an enlarged horn.

    The internal flare was created by using a tapered grinding stone in the drill chuck while rotating the work piece by hand to create the correct profile, a very delicate operation because I was worried that the interface between metal and plastic was now very much smaller and they could very easily separate if too much force was used.
    Happily this didnโ€™t happen and the new enlarged horn was successfully formed.

    I then reduced the length of the aluminium tube by using a saw blade as a parting tool and cleaned it up with a file. The base of the horn was formed from the foghorn base by filing down the remaining โ€˜stumpโ€™ into a taper and reducing its diameter until it fitted neatly into the new horn and then the two pieces superglued together to complete the assembly.

    After cleaning, the new loudhailer was given a few coats of white gloss to match the already completed foghorn.

    I carefully gauged the correct positioning of these horns on the cabin roof either side of the radar unit using some photos of the real boat and made a paper drilling template.
    After drilling the mounting holes they were fixed into the roof using the 2.5mm threaded stubs and a corresponding nut on the inside of the roof which had to be recessed into the wood so that they would not foul with the radar motor.

    There is a third unit between these horns on the real boats, a square black object.
    Perhaps an infra-red floodlight for use with night viewing equipment?

    I just canโ€™t identify what it is from the โ€˜photos that Iโ€™m working from so any ideas or suggestions would be very welcome

    Whatever it is, if I decide to add it, it wonโ€™t be as tricky to make as the loudhailer ๐Ÿ™„
    Rob.
    https://www.rbmodel.com/index.php?action=products&cat=c_ep&set=en
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    I've just had to re-upload all the 'photos of this 'Foghorn & Loudhailer' update 'cos they had mysteriously disappeared.......very odd ๐Ÿค”.
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Only coz he's got very small hands Rob๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

    JB
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Pete.
    I don't think anyone could beat Martin for detail ๐Ÿ˜†.
    Rob
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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    Wow! that is small detail Rob, are you trying to beat Martin for the smallest detail?๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š

    Cheers, Pete
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Pete.
    You're quite right there should be a centre cone inside the flared horn.....and YES there is one ๐Ÿ˜
    Look carefully at the picture and you'll see it.
    Now is that detail or is that Detail ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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    Great quality modelling yet again Rob, just one question though, should the loudhailer have a piece in the center of the bell? it looks like it on the photo.

    Cheers, Pete
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Thank you Stephen & Mike.
    Fortunately I have time on my hands to try these ideas even if I don't have the right tools to accomplish them...and your hands are the best tools you'll ever own.

    Great news...getting my Covid jab tomorrow....Yay ๐Ÿ˜€
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by stevedownunder ( Midshipman)
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    Lovely work Rob,
    What impresses me even more is the sort of equipment you used to manufacture these parts.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by mturpin013 ( Rear Admiral)
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    Nicely engineered Rob, you obviously have bucket loads of patience and perseverance. at the end of the day it's all about keeping your mind and hands busy
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    "Outstanding bodging ๐Ÿ‘"

    Thank you Graham...I'll take that compliment with the greatest of pride ๐Ÿ˜‚
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by Graham93 ( Captain)
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    Rob,

    โ€œThe foghorn was a convenient starting point to 'bodge' one......I'm good at bodging ๐Ÿ˜†โ€

    If that is a bodge Iโ€™m really looking forward to seeing the replacement when you do it properly ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

    Outstanding bodging ๐Ÿ‘

    Graham93
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Missouri.
    To turn it from styrene rod would probably require a small hobby lathe and the ability and experience to do it properly.
    Sadly I have neither of the above ๐Ÿ˜”.
    The foghorn was a convenient starting point to 'bodge' one......I'm good at bodging ๐Ÿ˜†
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by Missouri ( Master Seaman)
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    Not much remaining of the foghorn in the making of the loudhailer. Could it have been turned as one piece from a larger diameter plastic?
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Sy.
    Thanks for the encouragement ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ‘.
    I'm just making the roof ventilators at the moment with without much success ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ
    You made it look so easy in your Pilots Boat blog...but I'm struggling to make them look half decent.......I shall persevere ๐Ÿ˜ฃ
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    "Not sure I would have fingers left if it were me working on the parts.Most likely fly out of my fingers and me searching the floor for them not able to get up easily from the floor."

    Hi Rick.
    Been there....done that.......got the kneepads ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜‚
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
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    Not sure I would have fingers left if it were me working on the parts.Most likely fly out of my fingers and me searching the floor for them not able to get up easily from the floor. LOL
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by Skydive130 ( Commodore)
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    There you go again, making the awkward look easy Rob, those horns are outstanding once again ๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Foghorn & Loudhailer
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Thanks Martin.
    Converting the the foghorn into the loudhailer was always a bit of a gamble but patience and perseverance paid off.
    I was fully prepared to scratchbuild one from styrene if it didn't work out.
    Very pleased with the results though ๐Ÿ˜
    Rob.
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    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Rob,
    It looks like you have been having a lot of fun there.
    Great work.

    RE :- infra-red floodlight.
    Is it possible that it could be some sort of infra-red Camera array.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Fitting the Radar Assembly
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    The radar assembly needs to be fitted into the cabin roof before I can do the final fit of all the lighting features as Iโ€™ll need to incorporate the wiring to the drive motor into the loom of wiring that will be formed with all of the lighting wiring.

    I made and tested the radar unit some time ago and itโ€™s designed to fit through the roof panel and couple with the drive motor and gearbox on the underside.
    I used some rubber spacers to add a small degree of resilience and adjustment and fixed the motor in place with two fine machine screws directly into the ply reinforcing block that I fitted during construction.
    The wiring from the motor was terminated on a two pin plug which mates with a corresponding socket glued to the roof panel to extend it through the loom to the lighting circuit board.

    With the motor in place I fitted the column into the roof, fitted the drive shaft and fixed the radar bar to the shaft with the grub screw.
    After temporarily connecting a 1.5v battery to run the motor the gearbox fixings were loosened off and adjusted for perfect centring and minimum friction with the motor running before being tightened again.

    Once I was happy with the alignment I removed the radar column and bar so that I could continue with the other roof detailing without the danger of breaking it ๐Ÿ˜จ

    It will be eventually fixed in place with canopy glue in the very final assembly of the cabin.
    And now I can get all of the lighting and wiring installed ๐Ÿ˜
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Hillro.
    Here's the info on the radar motor & gearbox as requested.
    Rob.
    https://www.mr-rcworld.co.uk/shop/radar-motor-gearbox/
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    2 months ago by Hillro ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi Rob" can you share details of the radar drive and where to purchase.
    Thanks in advance
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fitting the Radar Assembly
    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Martin.
    That would probably work fine on a fairly large screw thread, 3mm or more, in wood but with such a small screw, 2mm in this case, the cyano would probable just block the hole and prevent the screw from re-threading. A good tip nevertheless ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fitting the Radar Assembly
    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I have heard that you can put a few drops of thin Superglue (CA) in the threaded ply wood and let it dry.
    It hardens the wood and stops the threads chipping out.

    Martin555.
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    2 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Mike.
    There's no treatment on the ply, the screws are set into pilot drilled holes and the fine threads tap themselves quite firmly into the wood. For anything larger I might just do as you suggest.
    I do have something lined up as a next project but there's been some delays in the production prototype so I'm just taking my time finishing off this boat until then. Not too much more to do now, the roof ventilators need to be finished off (using Sy's design)...then I need to make an anchor, roof horn and loudhailer and then that about it. Enough to keep me busy for a while ๐Ÿ˜€.
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fitting the Radar Assembly
    2 months ago by mturpin013 ( Rear Admiral)
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    Nice touch Rob, Did you treat the thread in the ply with wood hardener? Its a good idea if you ever need to take the screws out it keeps the integrity of the thread in tact.
    Nearing completion - What's next?
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fitting the Radar Assembly
    2 months ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
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    I do enjoy the detail.Like others have said can't wait to see the finished work.
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fitting the Radar Assembly
    2 months ago by Skydive130 ( Commodore)
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    Looks fantastic Rob, another step closer to the final reveal ......๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
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    2 months ago by Skydive130 ( Commodore)
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    Me too Martin, itโ€™s been superb ๐Ÿ‘
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    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Rob,
    It is a shame that this build is coming to an end.
    I have toughly enjoyed it so far.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ“ The Boat Hooks
    3 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    A brief update on a small feature....

    The boat hooks on the Pilot Boats are recessed into the cabin sides so that there are no protrusions for the crew to get caught on while walking on the decks and so when designing and constructing the new cabin for this Pilot Boat I included these recesses.

    The hooks I have used are a ready-made item that Iโ€™ve used before on both my RAF Crash Tender and Thames River Police Boat, they come in set of three and are available in different lengths.
    I chose the nearest size to suit, trimmed them to length and added some of the cotton cord that I used for the handrail to form a hand-grip. The white metal hooks required very little โ€˜fettlingโ€™ with files and abrasives and the poles were given two coats of some acrylic teak stain to finish them off.

    They are fixed into the cabin recesses with a short length of tinned copper wire pre-formed into a kind of โ€˜stapleโ€™ which were also given a couple of coats of teak stain.
    I drilled some 1.2mm holes through the back of the recesses and with the boat hooks in place I passed the 'staples' through the holes and secured them by twisting the wires on the inside of the cabin.

    Quite a nice little detail I think ๐Ÿ˜€
    https://www.battlecrafts.com/deck-fittings/1-24th-scale/311-boat-hooks-200mm
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Boat Hooks
    3 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Mike.
    No I haven't borrowed them from my other boats, at seven quid for a set they're not worth scratching or scrounging ๐Ÿ˜€.
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Boat Hooks
    3 months ago by mturpin013 ( Rear Admiral)
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    I hope your crash tender isn't without boat hooks.๐Ÿค”
    I assume you've made some more๐Ÿ˜œ
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Boat Hooks
    3 months ago by Skydive130 ( Commodore)
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    Another fine teaser Rob, that final reveal canโ€™t be too far away! The wait is killing me! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Boat Hooks
    3 months ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
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    Wow .Wonderful detail.
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Boat Hooks
    3 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Julio.

    "Could I work out the details of my next job in your own way? ... your fault ..."

    I think perhaps this is the boat that you have plans to build ? ๐Ÿ˜‰

    A free plan that came with Le Modele Reduit De Bataux magazine, the French equivalent of the UK Model Boats Magazine it seems.

    Perhaps by model has been your motivation ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜€

    Kind Regards.
    Robbob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Boat Hooks
    3 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Rob,
    I agree with Graham 100%.
    Great work.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Boat Hooks
    3 months ago by Julio ( Master Seaman)
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    Really, an exquisite and very motivating job.
    Congratulations
    I wanted to ask you a question:
    Could I work out the details of my next job in your own way? ... your fault ...
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Boat Hooks
    3 months ago by Graham93 ( Captain)
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    Rob,

    Love all the little details. They add so much to the look of the completed model.

    Graham93
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    ๐Ÿ“ The Windscreen Wipers...update.
    3 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Following up on Martinโ€™s suggestion I have added a simulated track slot to the wiper boxes.
    I didnโ€™t have any black Trimline tape as used by Skydive130 on his model but I did have some silver self-adhesive vinyl that I trimmed a 1mm strip from and applied to all three of the wiper boxes.
    The effect is very much the same if not better and is a great finishing detail to the wiper assemblies ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Windscreen Wipers...update.
    3 months ago by robbob ( Admiral)
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    Hi Sy.
    I'm pleased that you approve ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Š.
    Rob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: The Windscreen Wipers...update.
    3 months ago by Skydive130 ( Commodore)
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    The difference is there to see Rob, looking like those wipers would sweep now ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
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