Alternative Deck Planking
Thats a good tip Joe.
Thank you.
Martin555.
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Martin555.
If it looks right it probably is.
Alternative Deck Planking
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Alternative Deck Planking
I do the spacing method as well, but use small diameter metal rod laid down to create the gaps. Easy to remove as I go and doesn't get stuck like wood spacers can. Great subject.
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That's pretty close to the method used on the full size decks - except the filler being different of course. Very effective indeed. Wonder if the method would work with scored obeche / laser engraved style - think there might be a problem with marking unless it was varnished first ?
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The method I use especially on my trawlers is to leave a gap between the planks. The size of depending on the scale, usually I use a piece of thin strip of wood as a spacer. After all decking is down I then smear the whole deck with a dark wood filler making sure it is pushed well into the gap and allow to dry. Then sand it back to the wood. I seal it with 2/3 coats of varnish.
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Forgot there are two more types - pre lined Obeche can still be found occasionally - have some in various planking widths - also useful for some superstructures - and of course laser engraved planking as used on the build of grandsons Elver............... shops like SLEC should be happy to engrave a plank or two - artwork being dead simple - so if anyone needs a dxf file for that please feel free to request via PM. Don't forget to specify length and width plus the width of the sheet to be engraved..........
1) Elver laser engraved deck
2) Top :- remnants Graupner sheeting - Bottom 3 scored Obeche in various widths
1) Elver laser engraved deck
2) Top :- remnants Graupner sheeting - Bottom 3 scored Obeche in various widths
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A few examples of the alternatives as requested - apologies for taking so long :- not sure what order the pics will come out............ (edit :- reversed it seems)
9)Pencil Lines /Ply
8)Pine/Black Card
7)Billings/Plastic
6)Pine/Black Card
5)Mahogany/Obeche
4)Mahogany /White Paper
3)Old Graupner Decking
2)Billings/Pencil Edging (Deck)
1)Billings/Pencil Edging No 2
9)Pencil Lines /Ply
8)Pine/Black Card
7)Billings/Plastic
6)Pine/Black Card
5)Mahogany/Obeche
4)Mahogany /White Paper
3)Old Graupner Decking
2)Billings/Pencil Edging (Deck)
1)Billings/Pencil Edging No 2
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Will do Ron - have to clean most of the models first - not been used for a while and mostly in a state of disrepair having been shipped to UK and back plus 8 local moves....
So perhaps over the weekend.
The 1/1 shots are a little more difficult as I was only able to get aboard a trawler being refurbished some time ago and watch the re caulking being done. Did not have a camera with unfortunately. Hard to get a decent shot on the currently working ones with the deck clutter/grime from sardines etc until they are pulled up on the slipway and cleaned which is quite infrequently. There is also only one F/B cruiser here at the moment which has a utilitarian non slip deck as its used for fishing charters. Will see what can be done when visiting Hout Bay in a few weeks time where there are a lot more boats (3 hour drive away)
As a matter of interest a friend there has two WW2 Miami Crash Boats one of which he is currently re-furbishing and two 60's Ford class SDB's all being ex SAN. He runs a tour boat to Seal Island off Hout Bay. Its a steel hull 82' long based on the hull lines of the 63' Miami's with a different superstructure which he built himself, takes about 120 Pax at 15 or so knots with two V16 Detroit Diesels at max 900rpm. (He was in a hurry to complete so used the spare set of Miami shafts & props which would twist like a pretzel at anything over that). Its featured in his ad. The other pics being the start of the Miami refurbishment.
So perhaps over the weekend.
The 1/1 shots are a little more difficult as I was only able to get aboard a trawler being refurbished some time ago and watch the re caulking being done. Did not have a camera with unfortunately. Hard to get a decent shot on the currently working ones with the deck clutter/grime from sardines etc until they are pulled up on the slipway and cleaned which is quite infrequently. There is also only one F/B cruiser here at the moment which has a utilitarian non slip deck as its used for fishing charters. Will see what can be done when visiting Hout Bay in a few weeks time where there are a lot more boats (3 hour drive away)
As a matter of interest a friend there has two WW2 Miami Crash Boats one of which he is currently re-furbishing and two 60's Ford class SDB's all being ex SAN. He runs a tour boat to Seal Island off Hout Bay. Its a steel hull 82' long based on the hull lines of the 63' Miami's with a different superstructure which he built himself, takes about 120 Pax at 15 or so knots with two V16 Detroit Diesels at max 900rpm. (He was in a hurry to complete so used the spare set of Miami shafts & props which would twist like a pretzel at anything over that). Its featured in his ad. The other pics being the start of the Miami refurbishment.
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Card indeed does work well - that's very nice planking you do too.
Fancy cabin cruisers, motor yachts etc seem to use white caulking a lot here however - not sure about the UK ?
On a large model trawler it is a bit of a problem with card as 1/1 tar (v notch for caulking) seems to be about 3/4" wide on 5" or 6" planks. Not quite sure how to handle it. Sticking a few pieces together might work but its been difficult to do it properly without discolouring the card or the planking too much - or ripping out some of the card - hence one fishing boat has been on the stocks for quite a while...........
And as most of us know once stopped - its very difficult to start again.
The wood I use now mostly came from Westbourne Models - bought all the stock they had of the planks produced by Billings (not the mahogany). Also bought a lot of teak veneer at a Lymington boot sale from someone who used it professionally at one time . Dirt cheap and when I tried to pay him more insisted on giving me some boxes of marquetry veneer.....
Lime (Basswood) is only available here at extortionate prices - not very frequently either........
Fancy cabin cruisers, motor yachts etc seem to use white caulking a lot here however - not sure about the UK ?
On a large model trawler it is a bit of a problem with card as 1/1 tar (v notch for caulking) seems to be about 3/4" wide on 5" or 6" planks. Not quite sure how to handle it. Sticking a few pieces together might work but its been difficult to do it properly without discolouring the card or the planking too much - or ripping out some of the card - hence one fishing boat has been on the stocks for quite a while...........
And as most of us know once stopped - its very difficult to start again.
The wood I use now mostly came from Westbourne Models - bought all the stock they had of the planks produced by Billings (not the mahogany). Also bought a lot of teak veneer at a Lymington boot sale from someone who used it professionally at one time . Dirt cheap and when I tried to pay him more insisted on giving me some boxes of marquetry veneer.....
Lime (Basswood) is only available here at extortionate prices - not very frequently either........
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Posted this in response to a question on another site - thought it might be of interest ......
Many years ago Graupner produced ready made deck planking in Balsa sized sheets usually 100mm by 1m . They seem to have produced that by gluing 5 or 6 sheets of Mahogany/Red Cedar together then 1 of Obeche and so on - veneer thickness slices were cut across the sides producing the planking effect with the Obeche as the caulking. Believe they made different planking widths but only ever found the one size which was very effective on small cabin cruisers etc.(its the decking on my avatar). That gave me an idea.........
So having found some thin basswood (1/32") at the local shop cut that into very thin strips and used it on edge as caulking with later type deck planking strips from Billings (much lighter than Mahogany and looks the part.) Worked well. Also tried Obeche as caulking because there were a few planks on hand - that looked good too....
Then read the instructions from Dumas on a 16' Chris Craft "Utility" boat (the kit for which was passed on to a fellow member of the club when he lost most of his boats in a fire) What they suggested was using plasticard strips as caulking. Made sense as they also suggested you stain the mahogany planking after fitting and obviously the plastic would not take the stain. Tried that on a small plastic RTR Riva Aquarama type - used plastic cement to glue the wood & plasticard strips to the deck - still holding many years later . So also effective.
On the small scale Billings Lilla Dan used thin white card/paper strips as "caulking" with the mahogany planking supplied .Very, very fiddly but quite effective - not quite right as the planking itself is too dark .
So there are a lot of choices out there - thicker black card works well for fishing boats where they use a tar like substance as caulking - all the local 1/1 fishing boats have decks caulked with it for instance.(heated, poured , then trimmed with a trowel/knife before it cools completely). No fancy finishes on these Sardine/Pilchard Trawlers.............
Many years ago Graupner produced ready made deck planking in Balsa sized sheets usually 100mm by 1m . They seem to have produced that by gluing 5 or 6 sheets of Mahogany/Red Cedar together then 1 of Obeche and so on - veneer thickness slices were cut across the sides producing the planking effect with the Obeche as the caulking. Believe they made different planking widths but only ever found the one size which was very effective on small cabin cruisers etc.(its the decking on my avatar). That gave me an idea.........
So having found some thin basswood (1/32") at the local shop cut that into very thin strips and used it on edge as caulking with later type deck planking strips from Billings (much lighter than Mahogany and looks the part.) Worked well. Also tried Obeche as caulking because there were a few planks on hand - that looked good too....
Then read the instructions from Dumas on a 16' Chris Craft "Utility" boat (the kit for which was passed on to a fellow member of the club when he lost most of his boats in a fire) What they suggested was using plasticard strips as caulking. Made sense as they also suggested you stain the mahogany planking after fitting and obviously the plastic would not take the stain. Tried that on a small plastic RTR Riva Aquarama type - used plastic cement to glue the wood & plasticard strips to the deck - still holding many years later . So also effective.
On the small scale Billings Lilla Dan used thin white card/paper strips as "caulking" with the mahogany planking supplied .Very, very fiddly but quite effective - not quite right as the planking itself is too dark .
So there are a lot of choices out there - thicker black card works well for fishing boats where they use a tar like substance as caulking - all the local 1/1 fishing boats have decks caulked with it for instance.(heated, poured , then trimmed with a trowel/knife before it cools completely). No fancy finishes on these Sardine/Pilchard Trawlers.............
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