Received the smokers from Leeds Model shop this morning,😊 and you were correct Steve, notice the writing on the bottom of the 12 volt smoker, says
it all😆
Cheers, Pete
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Received the smokers from Leeds Model shop this morning,😊 and you were correct Steve, notice the writing on the bottom of the 12 volt smoker, says
it all😆
Just picked up on the 'Seuthe' link. It seems highly likely that Graupner re badged their smokers and sold them at a more expensive price.
They are freely available, and cheaper at various model railway suppliers in UK.
Thanks chaps!
Just picked up on the 'Seuthe' link. It seems highly likely that Graupner re badged their smokers and sold them at a more expensive price.
They are freely available, and cheaper at various model railway suppliers in UK.
Thanks chaps!
So it says in the links you provide that they have been in the business for 60 years and you can see that their range are identical to what Graupner did - in fact a much larger range. One wonders if the Graupner ones were/are a 'badged' version of the Seuthe.
Alan
So it says in the links you provide that they have been in the business for 60 years and you can see that their range are identical to what Graupner did - in fact a much larger range. One wonders if the Graupner ones were/are a 'badged' version of the Seuthe.
Alan
Many thanks for that info Alan, just bought two, one 6volt
£21.99 and one 12volt 22.99 plus an extra bottle of fluid, should last a while👍
Cheers, Pete
I really like the “how to”
here. One possible modification is to use the power to the drive motor, instead of a separate circuit with a switch. Then the smoke will vary with motor speed.
This will take experimenting to determine if you need a resistor to prevent top speed (power) from burning out the element.
I really like the “how to”
here. One possible modification is to use the power to the drive motor, instead of a separate circuit with a switch. Then the smoke will vary with motor speed.
This will take experimenting to determine if you need a resistor to prevent top speed (power) from burning out the element.
simple home made:
small metal box, maplins used to sell these, you can pick the size and shape to suit your model, ebay is full of them.
get a small fan, the sort from a pc etc, again, size to suit, and it will run on your drive battery, so when buying, check the operating voltage. Cut a hole a bit smaller than the fan in one side of the box, the fan will drive the smoke out. Between the fan, and the box, have a piece of thin plastic, it will need to move to make the hole bigger or smaller, to be adjusted when testing so you can limit the amount of air entering the box via the fan, as the fan speed will be constant.
Drill small hole either end, make up two rubber grommets for these holes. Next, pinch the heating element wire from the missus hairdryer, or something else!. make a wick from a wooden dowel, wrap (coil) teh wire around this, and have it enter and exit the box, the grommets are so the wire does not touch the metal box, as it will short out. using ole fashiooned loft insulation, fill the bottom half of teh box, and rest the dowel on this inside the box.
soak the insulation, and the dowel with baby oil (I moix baby oil with disco smoke fluid, but you wont be able to get this, baby oil works fine)
Using a spare channel on your transmitter, a switch on/off, make up a microswitch of some sort so when you flick the switch, the microswitch makes the circuit. The feed will be either end of the heating element wire. Now, the supply voltage, and length of wire, will determin how hot it gets, this will need experimentation on your behalf, too hot, it will just burn out, too cold, it wont heat up.
Wire the fan into the circuit, so it comes on, the fan will blow the smoke up the exhaust etc, or whatever you use.
Thsi is the basic principle of the rc tank smokers, its just hot oil smoking. Every 15 mins or so, you will need to wet the wick again, I use a syringe and just pour down the funnel on my boat.
There it is, a bespoke smoke machine, using probably thingsd found around the house, or bought very cheaply
My box is directly under the exhaust stack, you could use tubing to direct the smoke
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small metal box, maplins used to sell these, you can pick the size and shape to suit your model, ebay is full of them.
get a small fan, the sort from a pc etc, again, size to suit, and it will run on your drive battery, so when buying, check the operating voltage. Cut a hole a bit smaller than the fan in one side of the box, the fan will drive the smoke out. Between the fan, and the box, have a piece of thin plastic, it will need to move to make the hole bigger or smaller, to be adjusted when testing so you can limit the amount of air entering the box via the fan, as the fan speed will be constant.
Drill small hole either end, make up two rubber grommets for these holes. Next, pinch the heating element wire from the missus hairdryer, or something else!. make a wick from a wooden dowel, wrap (coil) teh wire around this, and have it enter and exit the box, the grommets are so the wire does not touch the metal box, as it will short out. using ole fashiooned loft insulation, fill the bottom half of teh box, and rest the dowel on this inside the box.
soak the insulation, and the dowel with baby oil (I moix baby oil with disco smoke fluid, but you wont be able to get this, baby oil works fine)
Using a spare channel on your transmitter, a switch on/off, make up a microswitch of some sort so when you flick the switch, the microswitch makes the circuit. The feed will be either end of the heating element wire. Now, the supply voltage, and length of wire, will determin how hot it gets, this will need experimentation on your behalf, too hot, it will just burn out, too cold, it wont heat up.
Wire the fan into the circuit, so it comes on, the fan will blow the smoke up the exhaust etc, or whatever you use.
Thsi is the basic principle of the rc tank smokers, its just hot oil smoking. Every 15 mins or so, you will need to wet the wick again, I use a syringe and just pour down the funnel on my boat.
There it is, a bespoke smoke machine, using probably thingsd found around the house, or bought very cheaply
My box is directly under the exhaust stack, you could use tubing to direct the smoke
You beat me too it Ads👍
I have some of both makes.
Some of the littlns do tend to 'chuff chuff pop' a little but they're cheap and they're fun😁
https://seuthe-dampf.de/schiffe/
Seuthe specialise in smoke generators for all sorts of vehicles and uses.
https://seuthe-dampf.de/
Site is only in German I'm afraid, but some of the data sheets are multi.language.
Cheers, Doug 😎
You beat me too it Ads👍
I have some of both makes.
Some of the littlns do tend to 'chuff chuff pop' a little but they're cheap and they're fun😁 https://seuthe-dampf.de/schiffe/
Seuthe specialise in smoke generators for all sorts of vehicles and uses. https://seuthe-dampf.de/
Site is only in German I'm afraid, but some of the data sheets are multi.language.
Cheers, Doug 😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
Seuthe also manufacture a range of smoke generators and are available in the UK at mainly Model Train Dealers on the web. They also do a 6 volt one which is very much like the Graupner one both physically and dimensionally, however the price is also the same as Graupner at Leeds Model Shop.
Seuthe also manufacture a range of smoke generators and are available in the UK at mainly Model Train Dealers on the web. They also do a 6 volt one which is very much like the Graupner one both physically and dimensionally, however the price is also the same as Graupner at Leeds Model Shop.
try the small smoke units they use in RC tanks I find that they work well, a company by the name of banggood sell them cheap but takes about 3 weeks to get them
try the small smoke units they use in RC tanks I find that they work well, a company by the name of banggood sell them cheap but takes about 3 weeks to get them
If you don't mind the wait for shipping in these times, Harbor Models here in the USA has small and extra small 6v smoke generators. They even offer a chuffer setup. Good luck with your plans.
If you don't mind the wait for shipping in these times, Harbor Models here in the USA has small and extra small 6v smoke generators. They even offer a chuffer setup. Good luck with your plans.
Try Leeds Model Shop and Ebay as they show they have them at £24.99. I bought a large bottle of distillate from them a month or so ago and they send/deliver fast - well normally.
Alan
Try Leeds Model Shop and Ebay as they show they have them at £24.99. I bought a large bottle of distillate from them a month or so ago and they send/deliver fast - well normally.
Alan
With the demise of Graupner, also goes my favourite (6v), smoke generator. I was lucky to pick two up from Howes Models some weeks ago and I should have bought the remaining stock. The 12v version is still available but the set up leaves a lot to be desired and , without a pump, is virtually impossible in a small model.
Can anyone suggest any alternatives, or even perhaps a (simple please) home made version?
Steve
With the demise of Graupner, also goes my favourite (6v), smoke generator. I was lucky to pick two up from Howes Models some weeks ago and I should have bought the remaining stock. The 12v version is still available but the set up leaves a lot to be desired and , without a pump, is virtually impossible in a small model.
Can anyone suggest any alternatives, or even perhaps a (simple please) home made version?
Steve
