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(Other) A577
This model belongs to a friend of mine who had this in his attic where it got damaged and its condition deteriorated, he asked me if I would refurbish it.
This is a static model and I have submitted this to help to show the variety of craft that the RAF Marine Branch operated in the 68 years
of its existence.
The Armoured Target Boat was the brainchild of the Air Ministry's "I've had a good idea" Department. The requirement was for a target boat that could be bombed from the air with practice bombs.
The 40ft Armoured Target Boats were developed from the slightly smaller 37.5ft ATBs which had been designed by Scott-Paine and others at British Power Boat in 1932.
A couple of years later, in 1934, whilst bringing the first of the 64ft HSLs into service, it was realised by the Air Ministry that the condition of the aircraft had been advancing and that it was necessary to provide additional protection to improve the first type of Armoured Target Boats (the 37.5ft type). T.E. Shaw suggested to Scott-Paine that he should increase the length of the 37.5ft type to 40ft and fit twin rudders. in addition the Air Ministry prepared a new armour plating arrangement which gave separate protection for the crew and engines and coxswain. There was a further alteration to the forward bulkhead which resulted in it being changed to vertical instead of raked fore and aft to overcome the new conditions for bombing.
A long series of trials were carried out with the ballast with the 40ft type launch and eventually it was approved. The 40ft thus became the standard type Armoured Target Boat (ATB). The first batch of 15 craft of the 40ft type were ordered in 1935 with further batches being ordered in 1936, 1937 and 1938.
A further addition was the introduction of a 3rd engine, this helped to maintain a good speed on the ranges, and helped to counterbalance the the boat as it had been found that in a tight turn the 37.5ft ATB had a tendency to roll over. (5/10)
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(Other) HMAFV Stirling
78ft Rescue and Target Towing Launch, came into service in the mid 1970's and were the type of launch used by the RAF, two of this Class of boat were built for the Army. The RAF had six of these plus the prototype HMAFV Spitfire. (Motor: 555) (8/10)
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(Working Vessel) RAF Pinnace 1389
Pinnace 1389 was a Groves & Gutteridge designed launch. The 63ft pinnace replaced its 60ft predecessor, 1955 design 1389 was built in the early 1960's, this type was the workhorse of the RAF Marine Branch, and probably the favourite of the RAF crews.
1389 is presently at Staines on the Thames undergoing a conversion for her new owners. (Motor: 380) (ESC: viper) (7/10)
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(Other) RTTL 2771
2771 was a Vosper designed 68' RTTL, built by Saunders Roe, an 1961, it was the last of the Mk2 RTTL's to be built, and stayed in service until 1977, when it was struck off charge. 2771 was the last RTTL that I served on as full time crew in Malta, although I did work on various others at Maintenance Units. (Motor: 555x2) (7/10)
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π Billings Tug St Canute
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Thanks for that Richard, the motor you have is similar to the one I am going to fit. If anything is missing from the kit I'll have to live with it and fabricate the parts myself. One problem is that the kit is 20 years old and the wood is very brittle if I soak it to bend it it disintegrates so I am now treating the wood before using it, nice little lockdown project.
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π Billings Tug St Canute
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I have been given a billings model kit of the steam tug St Canute, this model was started about 20years ago by a friend of mines' husband, who had just about assembled the frames before he ran out of interest or was too busy at work, so it ended up in his loft. I have now ended up with it, my question is; " has anybody built a r/c model of St Canute and if so what motor did they put in it?" I do have a couple of spare 555's so I could use one of those if suitable. Anybody got any ideas.
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π (Other) A577
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This model belongs to a friend of mine who had this in his attic where it got damaged and its condition deteriorated, he asked me if I would refurbish it.
This is a static model and I have submitted this to help to show the variety of craft that the RAF Marine Branch operated in the 68 years
of its existence.
The Armoured Target Boat was the brainchild of the Air Ministry's "I've had a good idea" Department. The requirement was for a target boat that could be bombed from the air with practice bombs.
The 40ft Armoured Target Boats were developed from the slightly smaller 37.5ft ATBs which had been designed by Scott-Paine and others at British Power Boat in 1932.
A couple of years later, in 1934, whilst bringing the first of the 64ft HSLs into service, it was realised by the Air Ministry that the condition of the aircraft had been advancing and that it was necessary to provide additional protection to improve the first type of Armoured Target Boats (the 37.5ft type). T.E. Shaw suggested to Scott-Paine that he should increase the length of the 37.5ft type to 40ft and fit twin rudders. in addition the Air Ministry prepared a new armour plating arrangement which gave separate protection for the crew and engines and coxswain. There was a further alteration to the forward bulkhead which resulted in it being changed to vertical instead of raked fore and aft to overcome the new conditions for bombing.
A long series of trials were carried out with the ballast with the 40ft type launch and eventually it was approved. The 40ft thus became the standard type Armoured Target Boat (ATB). The first batch of 15 craft of the 40ft type were ordered in 1935 with further batches being ordered in 1936, 1937 and 1938.
A further addition was the introduction of a 3rd engine, this helped to maintain a good speed on the ranges, and helped to counterbalance the the boat as it had been found that in a tight turn the 37.5ft ATB had a tendency to roll over. (5/10)
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π¬ Range Safety Launch?
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To be honest Doug I didn't read down all of the posts, that's why I put the ASR/MCS reference in, just as an aside I was a crew member on four RSLs in UK and abroad and accompanied 1659 to RAF Abingdon for the 50th Anniversary of The RAF Airshow in 1968 which is quite sobering when I realise how long ago that was, the launch was 11 years old then, and it is still working in Holland today.
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π¬ Range Safety Launch?
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It might be worth noting that all RAF RSL's were were numbered starting with 16, all the 43ft RSL's were 1640 - 1668, the 41ft 6in RSLs were converted Seaplane Tenders, that were re-designated. they also started with 16 but were lower numbers, with the exception of 1646 and 1647 for some reason. The seaplane tender conversion was actually faster than their successors, 23Kts compared to 20kts (if you were really lucky) but generally about 18Kts.
http://www.rafboats.co.uk/rsl43.html |
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π¬ Mk2 RTTL 2771
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π Mk2 RTTL 2771
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π Motor upgrade
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Thanks Dave I'll be guided by your advice, all this is preparation I have the old 555 motors out and am still trying to work out how to fit the new D2836s and a different type of mounting.
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π Motor upgrade
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I hope so Dave.
I ordered the motors and esc's from Hobbyking Tuesday PM and the arrived this morning 36 hours from order to receipt, very good.
Now as this my first dabblings with brushless motors and esc's I have a few problems, which I hope somebody may be able to help me with, I bought a hobbyking esc programming card, there are no instructions with it although it seems a quite straightforward operation to set the required values.
Part of this is working out what each item is
1) Running mode. Ok choice of three, forward/brake: forward/ brake/reverse: Forward reverse. (easy enough)
2) Fixed area accelerator: 6%:9%:or 12% (??π€)
3)Battery Low Voltage Protection. 6 settings from non protection to 3.4v (probably set at no protection as using NiMh)
4)Start Mode (punch): 9 levels, which one?
5)Reverse Force: 4 levels 25-100% (ok self explanatory)
6)Timing Set: 5/10/15/20/25/30/automatic ( which one )
Bearing in mind what the model is (not a competition racer);what I require of it is forward/reverse; port and starboard. I do not require it to take off like a scalded cat with just the props and rudders in the water. Acceleration from stop to max in about 4-5 seconds.
I had about a 50 year gap in model boat making until about five years ago the last one i made was when I was 15, although in the years in between I did get to play with the real things when I was in the RAF. So if you do have any advice remember you are telling a person on the wrong side of 69π, and thanks in advance
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π Motor upgrade
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Thanks for the info I've gone for 2x30A watercooled esc from hobbyking, the main reason was that they were Β£13:00 each and seemed less complicated set up than the car ones, I may be wrong, but they will be in a fairly limited space with poor ventilation. if they don't work I'll try the car ones.
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π Motor upgrade
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Thanks for that Dave, 'll go for the D2836 then, one of our club members uses car esc with reverse as they tend to be cheaper, the price seems to go up if you mention marine.π
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π Motor upgrade
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I'm looking to upgrade my 34" model of a 68ft Mk2 RTTL from two johnson 555motors (running on 12V nimh) to running brushless. the speed is reasonable at the moment but a bit more would be better. I've been recommended 1000kv turnigy but which one the D3536 series or the D2836 series, anybody got any ideas which would be the better. I'm aiming to run on 9.6v
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π¬ HMAFV Stirling
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I've added two new photos, one the real Stirling in Plymouth Sound, and the view from astern.
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π¬ HMAFV Stirling
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That's a work in progress
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π Is westbournemodel@ co serious?
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Yes I realise that, Jarvo: but easy to be wise after the event.
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π HMAFV Stirling
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π Is westbournemodel@ co serious?
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I had an issue with Westbourne, ordered props, card was debited, no confirmation email, would not reply to emails, would not answer phone. Dorset Trading Standards are a complete waste of time as they, direct you to Citizens Advice, which is great deal of good as I live in Lincoln. Parts finally arrived after 8 weeks, with a scrawled note on the advice, saying, "sorry, delay caused by supplier".
As I understand it, my card should not have been debited until goods were dispatched, leave alone when not in stock. All they had to do was say sorry not in stock or even reply to my email.
I will never use this useless company again, and would advise others not to as well.
Other members of the club I belong to have said that they have had similar problems.
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π (Other) HMAFV Stirling
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78ft Rescue and Target Towing Launch, came into service in the mid 1970's and were the type of launch used by the RAF, two of this Class of boat were built for the Army. The RAF had six of these plus the prototype HMAFV Spitfire. (Motor: 555) (8/10)
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π (Working Vessel) RAF Pinnace 1389
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Pinnace 1389 was a Groves & Gutteridge designed launch. The 63ft pinnace replaced its 60ft predecessor, 1955 design 1389 was built in the early 1960's, this type was the workhorse of the RAF Marine Branch, and probably the favourite of the RAF crews.
1389 is presently at Staines on the Thames undergoing a conversion for her new owners. (Motor: 380) (ESC: viper) (7/10)
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π (Other) RTTL 2771
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2771 was a Vosper designed 68' RTTL, built by Saunders Roe, an 1961, it was the last of the Mk2 RTTL's to be built, and stayed in service until 1977, when it was struck off charge. 2771 was the last RTTL that I served on as full time crew in Malta, although I did work on various others at Maintenance Units. (Motor: 555x2) (7/10)
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