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Hello
Small upgrade The deck for the bollards and the anchor winch are ready. I'm slowly getting the hang of it. Actually, I didn't need to do the caulking under the anchor plate because you can't see it afterwards. But now I know that it's there too. ▲
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3 days ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Hello, hello
The beginning has been made. I wrapped the deck in bread paper and cut the first strips to size and glued them. When the bollards are on top, you can no longer see the dots, but they will still be sanded. Before the strips were glued, I painted the edges with a pencil so that they would have a dark caulk. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
7 days ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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18 days ago by ๐ฆ๐บ stevedownunder (
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Hi Wolle,
This is just my 2 cent's worth. Whilst the printed deck planks look alright. In my opinion some of the deck planks should be "Joggled" of course it all depends on how much time you wish to spend and how far you are prepared to go with realism. Also the "King" plank or the plank that runs along the centre line can be wider than the rest of the deck planks. Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
18 days ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Today I took the first steps for the planking and marked the base plates of the mast, bollard and anchor winch so that I know how far I have to plank. Unfortunately the strips haven't arrived yet. But I'll let you know when I get started.
Gary, that looks great. I'm not quite sure how I'm going to do it yet. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
18 days ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Excellent attention to detail Gary, really nice to look at.
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18 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง GaryLC (
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An important note for anyone who uses this caulking method. DO NOT cut the ends off the caulking strings before the deck is varnished.
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
18 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง GaryLC (
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Hi Wolle, I am curious with regard to your deck planking, as in have you made a start or not, and what are you using for caulking between the planks. This is an idea of mine that works rather well and looks very authentic. The two decks on my puffer have 1mm black rigging cord used as caulking, this was stretched tight and secured under the deck with super glue, mind this has to be completed before the deck is glued down. Check out the photo, the end of plank lines is a HB pencil line into a knife cut, as is the nail heads. Regards, Gary. (Note genuine chain driven rudder.)
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
19 days ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Wolle, I too proceeded with the strips from the center outwards, it seemed more logical to me that way.
I also colored the edges of the strips black before putting them in place. I used graphite from soft pencils. This way there is no need to leave gaps between the slats. These spaces are useful for those who simulate caulking using cardboard or black plastic. Once the deck is painted, the graphite will not go away with water. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
19 days ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Hey Alessandro
The print on the deck is a bit inaccurate in places, 6 - 7 mm planks, so I decided on 6 mm. I'll have to see about the caulking. I saw a video on YouTube where the sides were painted black before they were glued. I'll work from the inside out with the planks. I've never read or seen that anywhere but it somehow makes sense to me. (But I'm not a Vulcan) Hello Gary Yes, your deck looks great too. I'll definitely test it on scrap wood and the anti-roll keels are already on, thanks for the tip. Yes, the price is crazy, but I just had to have it, I sold my coin collection for it. You just have to set priorities ▲
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19 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง GaryLC (
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Hi Wolle, I have been looking at your progress, and it seems to be coming along nicely. I see you are in the throws of trying to sort out and make some sense of the hundreds of white metal fittings, I think you need to be a touch physic for this task. I didn't plank the plywood decking and used an oak wood dye which worked out quite well, mind a wise move would be to practise on a bit of scrap wood first. keep up the good work, and remember the bilge keel which stops the boat rocking from side to side when on the move. Regards, Gary. (I couldn't believe the price of the kit it was frightening.)
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
19 days ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Thanks for the reply Wolle.
Very very interesting choice of woods, I'm curious to see how they will present themselves in life because they are not very common in Italian model shops. The width of the strips is slightly less than that of the deck drawing, right? Do you already have an idea of โโhow to proceed to simulate the caulking? ▲
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19 days ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Of course Alessandro spruce 0.8 mm ร 6 mm and alder 0.8 mm ร 8 mm for the loaf wood.
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
19 days ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Wolle, can I ask you what type of wood you ordered and what width and thickness are the wooden slats?
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
19 days ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Hello
Wooden strips for the deck planking have been ordered. Can hardly wait to get started. ▲
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22 days ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Wolle, this seems like a great procedure.
Leaving the deck like this would have been much easier and quicker, but with real slats it will look much more beautiful and realistic, especially with the caulking between the slats themselves. If the test goes well you can apply it to the naval model, if it doesn't convince you you give up (excellent idea). Furthermore, consider that testing on a wooden board will still be more difficult because it does not have the drawing (like your deck has). Therefore, if the test succeeds, you can rest assured about the battens on the deck. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
22 days ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Hello Alessandro
After much consideration, I have decided to at least try it out on a piece of leftover wood. If that works, I will most likely do some new deck planking. Thank you for the thought-provoking idea ▲
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23 days ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Hello Alessandro
That's a good question. I hadn't thought of that yet. For me, the deck as it is now was actually finished. Now I'm not so sure if it's finished. The idea isn't that bad, I'll have to think about it. Thanks for the tip, I'll let you know what I've decided. ▲
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23 days ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Wolle, I like the design of the deck. Will you cover it with real wooden strips (following the drawing) or will you leave it like that?
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24 days ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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1 month ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Thanks Wolle, I have always used normal paper tape (the cheapest one, also used by body shops) but I'm not very satisfied.
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1 month ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Hello Alessandro
I used masking tape for this but I will get something else, I just don't know what exactly yet. ▲
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1 month ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Wolle, what adhesive strip do you use for the waterline?
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1 month ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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1 month ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Hello Alessandro
Yes, you're right, it's very narrow. I have to see what will go over the hole later. Maybe I can build it a little differently, we'll see. Thanks for the tip ▲
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1 month ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Wolle, if you still have time try to make a wider opening at the stern.
In case of replacing the rudder servo, will you be able to work and take it out with that little space available? Maybe the photo is deceiving me but it seems very narrow to me. Also hear the opinions of other modelers. If the space is sufficient, ignore this intervention of mine. ▲
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It's only going sooooooo slowly.
I've finished the stern with the rudder and put filler on the rudder mount on the hull. That has to dry now, then I'll sand it again. I've also glued the motor mount in place with epoxy resin. Now we're moving along slowly. Because of the poor description, you have to look around a lot, try things out, adjust, think about and compare how this and that could go. But I see it as a challenge, so I have to really challenge the one brain cell I have. ▲
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3 months ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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3 months ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Hello
I had a slight problem with the rudder. When I glued the rudder mount, epoxy resin ran down the rudder, right down to the pin. Bang. Bombproof. When I removed it, the nipple on the rudder broke off. After the initial shock and a lot of thinking, I drilled out the piece and also drilled a 2 mm hole in the rudder. Now I'm going to get a 2 mm winning rod and then we'll see. ▲
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4 months ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Hello Alessandro
At the moment I would use 90 degrees on one side and about 30 degrees on the other. I still have to test that out. I'll see what I can do with the lever. Mike's idea (thank you) isn't bad. I have to see if it works with the deck. But I'm not worried about that yet. 1. We're all model makers, so there's no such thing as "can't do". 2. I know that I'm not alone in this forum. ▲
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4 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Wolle, how many degrees can you make in these conditions?
I mean the angle formed by the longitudinal axis of the ship and the rudder, seen from above. If you think the rudder travel is enough for turning then that's fine. If not, you can reduce the length of the rudder arm. Don't cut the original one straight away, do some tests first. ▲
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4 months ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Hello
So we continue with the rudder bracket or rudder stand. For this I had to drill more holes in the hull and I didn't feel comfortable doing it but what must be done must be done. Then I adjusted the rudder bracket. I will glue it in like this later, the gaps will no longer be visible afterwards. ▲
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4 months ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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I can't say at the moment whether the dinghy has a rudder. In any case, it has two paddles.
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4 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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I also looked at the planking just hinted at in overlay. It is a very accurate kit because it shows it.
I was curious about how they did it: they tapered the first planking strips and then crossed and shortened the subsequent ones. Since the shape is very bulging, the result is a hull that is difficult to make with single strips. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
4 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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I ask you why some boats had the rudder while others only needed the oars to change the course to follow.
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4 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Mine is 1/60 scale. It is the third of four in total.
The two lateral ones suspended from the sides of the ship are more slender and with the stern similar to the bow (I tried to make them similar to those I have seen in some images of the time). This is one of the two central ones, wider. I am undecided whether to equip this one with a rudder too. Does yours include a rudder? ▲
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4 months ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Wolle (
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Hello Alessandro
That's really a coincidence. In what scale are you building the lifeboat? I mean in scale 1 / 24 ▲
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4 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Wolle, reading your last message I saw the photo of your message from a month ago.
The lifeboat that you see upside down (and therefore the hull is clearly visible) is very similar to the one I drew and that I am slowly making. A nice and curious coincidence. Then I'll show you. ▲
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I've had a lot to do in my private life, so I haven't made much progress.
I did start on the ship's stand today, but I still need to get hold of a few wooden strips. I then sanded down the bumps on the hull and that's the first and definitely not the last question for you. Are those all spitting holes in the pictures? The description of the ship is very minimalist. That's why my question is, do I have to open the holes or would you? ▲
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Good start Wolle, this model is very nice.
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