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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27 - Rudder
7 hours ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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The rudder mounting looks good Chris.
I notice this is another thread that has been duplicated and appears twice on the Trending Topics. Bob. ▲
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12 hours ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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That brass horn will look so much nicer than a plastic one.
I think mounted on the spindle like that looks perfectly in keeping with the hull. It will also make it easier to remove if need be, but as you've said, secure too. Will ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27 - Rudder
13 hours ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Thanks you are very kind, I was originally going to go with pintles etc. but couldn't find any big enough. Also using a spindle makes it easier to make it so that the rudder doesn't come off. Spindle is 2mm which I threaded to take the domed nut.
I've made the rudder horn now from 1mm brass sheet, so much better than plastic! Chris ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27 - Rudder
1 day ago by ๐บ๐ธ chugalone100 (
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Excellent detail. That rudder looks like something that came straight out of a jewelry storeโso beautiful and incredibly precise.
Your level of craftsmanship is on another level. Truly impressive work. ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27 - Rudder
1 day ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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That looks the part Chris ๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
23 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Thanks Bob and Will.
Not for the speed merchants obviously, but I'm glad to have built the Fisherman and Faun as they are so different to the the other Faireys in looks but mainly their construction. I'm certainly looking forward to getting the Fisherman on the water with it being sail and power. Chris ▲
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24 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Fisherman 27.
That is looking nice Chris, and the fixed superstructure will make it a lot more water-tight too ๐ Bob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
24 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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Fair play Chris, she's really starting to take shape now. That jump from just a hull, to having a superstructure and decking on has made such a huge difference ๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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I think so. You forget sometimes that parts and materials from other model/hobby areas can be useful. I happened to come across it when I was looking for a micro servo that had more power than the one I used in Faun.
It's prompted me to have a look to see if any Tamiya vehicle parts can be adapted for one of my future builds. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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That's a nice compact little unit Chris. Should do the job nicely tucking into the stern like that.
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
1 month ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Ronald (
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Chris your drawing doesnโt indicate the manner in which the rudder will be controlled. Please draw or sketch that detail. Top Side End Orthographic
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1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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1 month ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Ronald (
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Yes, as you say only low load whether from power or sail. But even that servo will pull 3.5kg so plenty of power.
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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You'll suss something I'm sure Chris.
I would think you will get away with using a smaller servo, as the rudder loading of a slower, less powerful model such as this, will be considerably lower than the likes of a H31, or Rapier for example won't they. Will ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Photos of the full-sized Fisherman and the cockpit area and for the model. I did think of running a rod through the cockpit area but as it will be towards the centre of the model I want to avoid it if I can.
I think by using a wing servo, which is only 10mm thick and cutting out some of the balsa at the stern to give room for the swing of the servo arm I can keep the size of the boxing to a minimum and make something in keeping with the design of the cockpit. Servo should be arriving soon so I can see how that works out. Fingers crossed! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Hi Ronald. Comments and advice are always welcome. Just going for the blood test so I'll reply properly when I get back.
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
1 month ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Ronald (
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Not sure what the finished model is to be, thus if comments are not fitting with your design then please ignore. Several of my sailboats have rudder controls which require two rods to pass through a cabin wall to connect with the servo control arms. The push rods are #12 aluminum knitting needles. I get them used for .25cents. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Having had another look I'm having to discount using a snake. The curve of the stern and the balsa blocks I've used there mean that the bell cranks would be further forward than using a servo. With working models sometimes compromises have to be made.
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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I'm sure it has been a big build so far, especially as it's a scratch build, and having to figure things out along the way. You're doing a grand job of it though, and will be rewarded with a really nice, extremely rare model at the end of it.
I was going to say, how about a snake cable, as at least the servo could remain remote then. I know they don't give quite as precise operation as a directly acting rod (unless fitted as a pair), but on a slower model, it wouldn't be such an issue. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Cheers Will. It certainly is steady progress. There's been an awful amount of work in the build so far and still lots to do including the mast and sails but I'm enjoying it as it's so different to my usual builds. Plenty of challenges and thinking required but that's why I scratch build.
One is positioning the servo for the rudder. Space is very limited due to the seating area and I'm probably going to have to modify it compared with the full-size by having some boxing. One option is to use an airplane wing servo which are slim and easier to mount (one ordered) or run a snake along the side of the cockpit from a servo in the cabin and a bell crank, but that brings its own problems. Chris ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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Steady progress there Chris, adding small details like that makes such a difference to the model, and it's realism ๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
2 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Jig Saw.
I think that the "foot" that rests on top of the wood is more or less essential on a jig saw to hold the wood down onto the surface plate when the action of the blade is trying to lift it up with every stroke! The "foot" on my Hegnar jig saw is much smaller than yours, and often as the wood is turned, the "foot" looses contact with the wood and I have to press the wood down firmly to hold it onto the saw's baseplate (at the same time as guiding it) - with mixed results! It is certainly much easier to "cut to the line" when the wood that is being cut it held firmly against the base plate of the jig saw. Bob. ▲
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2 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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It does act as a finger guard to some extent but I think its main job is to help with holding the ply/timber down.
The saw came with a clear plastic box like guard, but that was taken off straightaway! It would make it impossible to cut out very small parts and obscures your view, expecially once covered in saw dust. That I think is for eye protection but I always wear eye protection glasses. Otherwise I'm with your wife and son! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
2 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง BOATSHED (
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Nice to see that you have kept your fingeer guard on your scorl saw.
I have taken mine off, wouldn't evenknow where it is. I got a right elling off from my 52yr old son for taking the guard off of my angle grinder. He mad me put it back on, lucky enough, it was in the zip carry bag that I keep it in that it came with. My wife moans about me because I take it off it just seems to get in the way for some things. She tols my son, " he takes the guard off of any thing that has one on or if it comes with one he doesn't put it on it". She split on me and he had a real go at me. The one on the angle grinder is a real pain it gets in the way on most jobs. Well it does for me. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
2 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Nice work Chris and an interesting model that must be very satisfying to build.
The integrated cabin will help to keep any "deck wash" water out of the hull - probably even more important with a sail boat and a round bilge hull as it will roll more than the more traditional Fairey Marines deep-vee power boat hull shapes. Bob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
2 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Thanks both.
It's been very satisfying building a couple of plank on frame models. The hulls are very tactile! They can take a long time though, particularly this one being double planked. Chris ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
2 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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Nice work Chris, it's suddenly taking shape/transforming into a recognisable vessel ๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
2 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง PhilH (
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Looking great nicework
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