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    Fairey Fisherman 27
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    ๐Ÿ“ Fairey Fisherman 27
    3 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    Before I go much further I need to paint the hull (which I was procrastinating on!) so I've switched to fitting the deck so that I can then fit the rubbing strips and paint the hull - I need to do this now as unlike most of my other Faireys which have removeable superstructures this one is fixed so it will be difficult to work on the model upside down and will risk damage.

    So first job was to form the camber on the bow which I did with a triangular bass strip along the centre-line to give the height and angle and glued balsa sheet either side which was then sanded to shape. 2mm ply was then glued in place and sanded at the edges. Next I added in some additional ply pieces to support the joints and cardboard templates were made for the side decks which were transferred to ply with an allowance for sanding and again glued in place and sanded. The stern was a bit more complicated because of its shape but followed the same procedure. I hand sanded the decking around the outside of the hull which is always hard work on ply edges and so for the inside of the cockpit area I used my multi-tool with a grinding wheel to take most of it away and then finished off with curved and round files.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    3 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Bob and Will.

    Not for the speed merchants obviously, but I'm glad to have built the Fisherman and Faun as they are so different to the the other Faireys in looks but mainly their construction. I'm certainly looking forward to getting the Fisherman on the water with it being sail and power.

    Chris
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    3 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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    Fisherman 27.

    That is looking nice Chris, and the fixed superstructure will make it a lot more water-tight too ๐Ÿ‘

    Bob.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    3 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Madwelshman ( Lieutenant)
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    Fair play Chris, she's really starting to take shape now. That jump from just a hull, to having a superstructure and decking on has made such a huge difference ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘Œ

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ“ Fairey Fisherman 27
    14 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    The servo for the rudder arrived this morning. What a great little thing it is being only 10mm thick and 30mm wide and has the benefit of the mounting holes being vertical which will facilitate mounting. Fitting will require some surgery to the stern but I'm confident I can make this work. I will probably have to form some small boxing over the seating area to cover the swing of the servo arm but I can live with that.

    I also need to make or buy/modify the rudder hinges so that I can mount the rudder to work out exactly where the servo needs to sit.

    Once I'm able to I will get on with this and progressing work to the superstructure.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    14 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    I think so. You forget sometimes that parts and materials from other model/hobby areas can be useful. I happened to come across it when I was looking for a micro servo that had more power than the one I used in Faun.

    It's prompted me to have a look to see if any Tamiya vehicle parts can be adapted for one of my future builds.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    14 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Madwelshman ( Lieutenant)
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    That's a nice compact little unit Chris. Should do the job nicely tucking into the stern like that.

    Will
    ๐Ÿ“ Fairey Fisherman 27
    18 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    Bit of work to the cockpit area. Introduced some mahogany, that will be varnished, to form the "wings" to the rear of the cabin that enclose the wheel and console area.

    A template was then made for the floor and then transferred to some laser etched planking ply I'd got left from previous builds, which was cut out and sanded to provide a good fit. This will be left loose for future access and routing the rudder servo cables through. With the floor in place I made the housing for the engine.

    Then a start was made on the rudder. Like the full-size boat this has a mahogany blade which I'm laminating with thin ply on each side. I've increased the depth of the rudder as is common practice with sailing models, though I've always got the motor to give a helping hand!

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    14 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Chris your drawing doesnโ€™t indicate the manner in which the rudder will be controlled. Please draw or sketch that detail. Top Side End Orthographic
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    15 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    Not quite. See my photos below and this is a drawing I produced.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    15 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Is this what you are building?
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    15 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    Yes, as you say only low load whether from power or sail. But even that servo will pull 3.5kg so plenty of power.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    15 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Madwelshman ( Lieutenant)
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    You'll suss something I'm sure Chris.
    I would think you will get away with using a smaller servo, as the rudder loading of a slower, less powerful model such as this, will be considerably lower than the likes of a H31, or Rapier for example won't they.

    Will
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    15 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    Photos of the full-sized Fisherman and the cockpit area and for the model. I did think of running a rod through the cockpit area but as it will be towards the centre of the model I want to avoid it if I can.

    I think by using a wing servo, which is only 10mm thick and cutting out some of the balsa at the stern to give room for the swing of the servo arm I can keep the size of the boxing to a minimum and make something in keeping with the design of the cockpit. Servo should be arriving soon so I can see how that works out. Fingers crossed!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    16 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Ronald. Comments and advice are always welcome. Just going for the blood test so I'll reply properly when I get back.

    Chris
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    16 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Chris

    Not sure what the finished model is to be, thus if comments are not fitting with your design then please ignore.

    Several of my sailboats have rudder controls which require two rods to pass through a cabin wall to connect with the servo control arms.

    The push rods are #12 aluminum knitting needles. I get them used for .25cents.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    16 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    Having had another look I'm having to discount using a snake. The curve of the stern and the balsa blocks I've used there mean that the bell cranks would be further forward than using a servo. With working models sometimes compromises have to be made.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    16 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Madwelshman ( Lieutenant)
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    I'm sure it has been a big build so far, especially as it's a scratch build, and having to figure things out along the way. You're doing a grand job of it though, and will be rewarded with a really nice, extremely rare model at the end of it.
    I was going to say, how about a snake cable, as at least the servo could remain remote then. I know they don't give quite as precise operation as a directly acting rod (unless fitted as a pair), but on a slower model, it wouldn't be such an issue.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    16 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    Cheers Will. It certainly is steady progress. There's been an awful amount of work in the build so far and still lots to do including the mast and sails but I'm enjoying it as it's so different to my usual builds. Plenty of challenges and thinking required but that's why I scratch build.

    One is positioning the servo for the rudder. Space is very limited due to the seating area and I'm probably going to have to modify it compared with the full-size by having some boxing. One option is to use an airplane wing servo which are slim and easier to mount (one ordered) or run a snake along the side of the cockpit from a servo in the cabin and a bell crank, but that brings its own problems.

    Chris
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    16 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Madwelshman ( Lieutenant)
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    Steady progress there Chris, adding small details like that makes such a difference to the model, and it's realism ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Ž

    Will
    ๐Ÿ“ Fairey Fisherman 27
    27 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    Not much progress of late for various reasons. Decided not to fit the sub-mast yet as I wanted to progress the superstructure. First job was to measure up for the rear wall of the cabin and knock up a quick drawing. This was then transferred to ply, cut out and glued in place. Ready to form the roof then but hadn't got enough bass strips so placed an order with SLEC including other timber and ply to replenish stocks for future projects.

    Whilst waiting for that I made a cardboard template for the cockpit floor to make a ply template that will be used to cut the floor out of laser etched planking ply.

    Package from SLEC duly arrived and I've formed the roof for the rear cabin ready for sanding.

    ๐Ÿ“ Fairey Fisherman 27
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    The roof for the forward cabin has been made from bass strip. It is removable and will remain so but it will fixed in place by virtue of the mast being mounted on it. Next job will be fitting the sub-mast that runs between the keel and the underside of the roof.

    ๐Ÿ“ Fairey Fisherman 27
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    Made the bilge keels from two laminations of mahogany sheet to get the correct thickness and then glued them in place. Once this was done I was able to return to the superstructure. Drilled the holes for the portholes and then glued the cabin sides in position.

    Made the forward cabin front window and glued in followed by that for the rear cabin. Bolted and screwed the upper support for the drop keel whilst I still had easy access.

    Really starting to take shape now but still a long way to go!

    Chris

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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    Jig Saw.

    I think that the "foot" that rests on top of the wood is more or less essential on a jig saw to hold the wood down onto the surface plate when the action of the blade is trying to lift it up with every stroke!

    The "foot" on my Hegnar jig saw is much smaller than yours, and often as the wood is turned, the "foot" looses contact with the wood and I have to press the wood down firmly to hold it onto the saw's baseplate (at the same time as guiding it) - with mixed results!

    It is certainly much easier to "cut to the line" when the wood that is being cut it held firmly against the base plate of the jig saw.

    Bob.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    It does act as a finger guard to some extent but I think its main job is to help with holding the ply/timber down.

    The saw came with a clear plastic box like guard, but that was taken off straightaway! It would make it impossible to cut out very small parts and obscures your view, expecially once covered in saw dust. That I think is for eye protection but I always wear eye protection glasses.

    Otherwise I'm with your wife and son!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง BOATSHED ( Commander)
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    Nice to see that you have kept your fingeer guard on your scorl saw.
    I have taken mine off, wouldn't evenknow where it is.

    I got a right elling off from my 52yr old son for taking the guard off of my angle grinder.
    He mad me put it back on, lucky enough, it was in the zip carry bag that I keep it in that it came with.
    My wife moans about me because I take it off it just seems to get in the way for some things.
    She tols my son, " he takes the guard off of any thing that has one on or if it comes with one he doesn't put it on it".
    She split on me and he had a real go at me. The one on the angle grinder is a real pain it gets in the way on most jobs. Well it does for me.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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    Nice work Chris and an interesting model that must be very satisfying to build.

    The integrated cabin will help to keep any "deck wash" water out of the hull - probably even more important with a sail boat and a round bilge hull as it will roll more than the more traditional Fairey Marines deep-vee power boat hull shapes.

    Bob.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks both.

    It's been very satisfying building a couple of plank on frame models. The hulls are very tactile! They can take a long time though, particularly this one being double planked.

    Chris
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    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Madwelshman ( Lieutenant)
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    Nice work Chris, it's suddenly taking shape/transforming into a recognisable vessel ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fairey Fisherman 27
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง PhilH ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Looking great nicework
    Philuk๐Ÿ‘


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