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📝 Engine change
28 days ago by Newby7 (
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Commodore)
Awhile back I found and purchased a Chiltern steam engine. After building it was a little big for the new build . The Borkum then was measured to fit the new engine . With everything out worked to take the frames down to get the new engine in place. Lowering the frames worked out with the engine in and lined and lagged in place. New piping needed to be run for boiler and condenser and new set up for servo. Filled the boiler and ran the engine in. Out door and water tests to come when we open up.
Rick
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📝 Change
5 months ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
Commodore)
After viewing the pictures of the fender locations decided to change them to match the pictures of the Krick Borkum.
The fenders were hanging down and the kit picture showed sideways.
Using a needle took one of the lines and threaded it into the needle and centered threw the fender to have a line from both ends.
Pictures show the fenders hanging down and fenders sideways.
Rick
The fenders were hanging down and the kit picture showed sideways.
Using a needle took one of the lines and threaded it into the needle and centered threw the fender to have a line from both ends.
Pictures show the fenders hanging down and fenders sideways.
Rick
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💬 Re: Change
5 months ago by Newby7 (
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Thanks Doug and Nerys for the post. With seeing the fenders hanging they would drag in the water and I didn't want that.
Hearing that the way I changed them is correct until they are need to be used. Rick 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Change
5 months ago by Nerys (
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Quite correct, fenders should only be hung over the side when going alongside and mooring. Very infra dig to leave them hanging over the side when underway.
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💬 Re: Change
5 months ago by RNinMunich (
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Nice one Rick👍 A superbly built boat😀
That looks to me like the correct stowed while underway position of the fenders. I guess that only when going alongside one end would be untied to drop them down to the waterline. The mate/deckhand would be sacked if he left 'em trailing in the wet stuff underway😠 Cheers, Doug 😎 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Change
5 months ago by GaryLC (
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Great looking boat with nice clean lines, excellent workmanship, and very nice paint job. Forgive me for this but the first thought that came to mind on seeing your new fender arrangement was toilet roll holders, I think this has something to do with the present Pandemic. Regards, GLC.
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📝 Dressed up no where to go
5 months ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
Commodore)
Having finished the piping testing the boiler the three servos were set up for rudder engine and shutoff. Then worked on a switch for RC start and stop picture #1.Picture #2 shows battery and rudder set up.With the switch in place can turn on power without removing a cover.Finally the extras were added to finish the boat.Will look for more figures to add to passenger side.
The last will be getting the boat to water for first voyage likely will now be the spring.
Rick
The last will be getting the boat to water for first voyage likely will now be the spring.
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💬 Re: Dressed up no where to go
5 months ago by Ianh (
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Ordinary thick parcel twine is what I used on the Loco's
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💬 Re: Dressed up no where to go
5 months ago by Ianh (
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String wound around the steam pipes and painted white will help to ensure you are running at optimum
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💬 Re: Dressed up no where to go
5 months ago by Newby7 (
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Hello GLC It has been a good time working with steam.Must admit when I first started it was a little overwhelming.You getting me started was above and beyond my expectations so I must thank you for my success in steam.
The Borkum was a wild idea to start with as there were no plans to work from. Having built 5 other scratch built boats from plans used them to guide in the frames to work for the Borkum. The boat turned as I had hoped but better.I'm so glad I did the build blog as I now have a record of my work.Something I had never done before. Thank you all for fallowing and commenting on my build. The spring is not that far away.Launch and video to come. Rick 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Dressed up no where to go
5 months ago by mturpin013 (
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Hi Rick really nice piece of work well planned and executed you should be very pleased with the finished job. The maiden voyage will all the much sweeter for waiting and when you get to launch it we can all join in with some pictures.
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💬 Re: Dressed up no where to go
5 months ago by GaryLC (
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Hi Rick, and congratulations are definitely in order as quite a feat of engineering, you designed your look-alike Borkum and fitted your own steam plant, and sorted the many problems as they arose along the way. Needless to say, I am really proud of all you have managed to accomplish over these last few years. Well done and what does the future have in store, I wonder????????
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💬 Re: Dressed up no where to go
5 months ago by Newby7 (
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So far have not thought of lagging the pipe work.Have not done that before so will investigate what string or material would be good for the work.
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💬 Re: Dressed up no where to go
5 months ago by Newby7 (
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Thanks all for the comments.Yes it will be a while to see her run.Will look at doing a video of the first run.
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💬 Re: Dressed up no where to go
5 months ago by robbob (
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Hi Rick.
Great work 👍😀 The boiler and engine look excellent, such a shame that you have to delay the maiden voyage for so long. Will you be adding any lagging to the pipework for safety and appearance? I understand that white painted string looks very realistic and does a good job too. Rob. 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Dressed up no where to go
5 months ago by figtree7nts (
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Hi Rick,
She looks great! You must make a video on the water! Cheers, Ed 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Dressed up no where to go
5 months ago by jbkiwi (
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Hi Rick, looks real nice, looking forward to seeing it run. Hopefully you won't have to wait too long. Great job!
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💬 Re: Dressed up no where to go
5 months ago by Martin555 (
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You have done a fantastic job on her Rick.
It is a shame we all have to wait so long to see her first voyage. Martin555. 👍 Like
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📝 Boiler #3 with servos
6 months ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
Commodore)
With the new piping in set up to install the servos for the shutoff to steam.Had previously installed the rudder servo and engine servo and tested them out.The shutoff servo proved to be stubborn as I didn't realize it had shorted out needed to find another.Borrowed from another boat.Having a new gas canister filled the gas tank water into the boiler to run the engine.
Picture 1&2 show the new piping gas tank and condenser in spot.
The 3rd picture shows the servo setup.Right servo is engine full foreword or reverse.Left servo is steam shutoff .
The 4th picture shows the covers to hide the servos.
The last is the rudder servo and area the servo leads will be along with battery and switch shut off.
Rick
Picture 1&2 show the new piping gas tank and condenser in spot.
The 3rd picture shows the servo setup.Right servo is engine full foreword or reverse.Left servo is steam shutoff .
The 4th picture shows the covers to hide the servos.
The last is the rudder servo and area the servo leads will be along with battery and switch shut off.
Rick
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💬 Re: Boiler #3 with servos
5 months ago by GaryLC (
Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
A more up to date photo although the quality of it leaves a bit to be desired, the gas blow torch nozzle burner, which works well and solved a long-standing problem of low steam pressure, the only problem being a bit on the noisy side. Plus a better gas cut-off valve from Cleveden Steam, the old one being homemade by myself. I built this in the 1970s so it has taken a while to get it running properly, also cleaned it up a bit, and updated the radio gear.
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💬 Re: Boiler #3 with servos
5 months ago by Martin555 (
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GaryLC,
What a lovely boat. Very nice work. Martin555. 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Boiler #3 with servos
5 months ago by GaryLC (
Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
I don't think you will have a problem, as you will be carrying far more water than gas, and that small gas tank will run out long before the water does, (in theory anyway.) I have rebuilt this launch recently and am now using a gas blowlamp torch for the burner, maybe not pretty but definitely functional. Gas canister in the front and all servo's nicely hidden with wiring and pipe work under the decking. Are we complete and up and running yet?
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💬 Re: Boiler #3 with servos
6 months ago by Ianh (
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Hi Gary
Being an Ex Model Engineer Hackworth Valve gear is very reliable once set on a marine boiler, 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Boiler #3 with servos
6 months ago by Newby7 (
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Thanks GLC you have been instrumental in me doing steam.I to hope I don't need a forth servo as I'm not sure where to put or hide it.
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💬 Re: Boiler #3 with servos
6 months ago by GaryLC (
Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
Hi Rick, hope you never need that 4th servo for the gas shut-off? I have just found even more photos of the Hackworth forward reverse servo shown in three positions, the middle position being neutral. Regards, GLC.
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📝 Boiler
6 months ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
Commodore)
After changing the one oilier for the lever controlled oilier I knew that new piping would be needed.
Having heard from a friend that the boiler needed to be as low in the boat as possible.Removing almost 1/2"of the ribbing to lower the boiler making sure the boiler mounting plate sat into place again.
Satisfied that the base and boiler looked in the right spot fastened down the boiler plate.
The new piping was then done .
New testing will be done soon as I need to get more gas to test.
Rick
Having heard from a friend that the boiler needed to be as low in the boat as possible.Removing almost 1/2"of the ribbing to lower the boiler making sure the boiler mounting plate sat into place again.
Satisfied that the base and boiler looked in the right spot fastened down the boiler plate.
The new piping was then done .
New testing will be done soon as I need to get more gas to test.
Rick
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💬 Re: Boiler
6 months ago by Ianh (
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Hi GaryLC
Yes getting the servo right is essential as the valve gear is a Hackworth design it doesn't tak nicely to being off or it will stall. 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Boiler
6 months ago by Newby7 (
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Thank you for your comment.
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💬 Re: Boiler
6 months ago by boatbuild4042 (
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Really nice work on the boiler and the pipe work looks really good
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💬 Re: Boiler
6 months ago by GaryLC (
Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
Hi Rick, I found the photo enclosed which hopefully explains my solution to sorting the Forward / Reverse problem, and thought I would share this with you quite a simple solution really and works well, the positioning of the servo is a very important factor in successful operation. Regards.
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💬 Re: Boiler
6 months ago by Newby7 (
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Thanks Gary me to.
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💬 Re: Boiler
6 months ago by GaryLC (
Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
You are ever so nearly there now, and I have every confidence in your ability, steam is all about solving the problems which arise usually one after the other. I think you have just about got it all sorted. Congratulations and well done an incredible achievement. Regards, GLC. ( Waiting for the COMPLETED photograph?????)
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📝 Change
6 months ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
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When I first set up the pipe work from boiler to engine I had a shutoff at the boiler and the oilier at the engine all worked fine.After the test runs of the boiler I found that I needed to use the valve to control the steam better.The servo for the foreword/reverse works well but will be better at full each way when running.I will use the shutoff to slow the engine down.
Now the change I had another oilier with shutoff attached so put this unit at the engine so the shutoff is now lower in the boat.Will need to put a servo in to work the shutoff while running.Have started to work on the spot for the servo.
Picture #1 shows the first shutoff #2 shows the oilier with shutoff in behind.
Rick
Now the change I had another oilier with shutoff attached so put this unit at the engine so the shutoff is now lower in the boat.Will need to put a servo in to work the shutoff while running.Have started to work on the spot for the servo.
Picture #1 shows the first shutoff #2 shows the oilier with shutoff in behind.
Rick
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💬 Re: Change
6 months ago by Newby7 (
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Thanks Martin and Gary.
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💬 Re: Change
6 months ago by Martin555 (
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It looks a complicated setup.
I know nothing about these steam boats but it looks good. Nice work Rick. Martin555. 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Change
6 months ago by GaryLC (
Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
I should have mentioned on the TVR 1A the square rod with the grooves cut into it for the forward-reverse operation, need to be filed out leaving only the top and bottom groove for maximum speed forward and reverse, so that the piano wire can slide up and down and will stop at its top and bottom position at maximum engine revs.
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💬 Re: Change
6 months ago by GaryLC (
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Hi Rick, you need a lever controlled throttle valve from Jerry, either the plain or lubricating variety. I am sending you a photo of my forward/reverse servo drive, 5mm diameter brass rod should do it with a screwed stud in one end, don't tighten this as it must be able to rotate, and the piano wire substitute needs to be a slide fit, this works really well if it is correctly positioned. I have used some rectangular alloy tube to hold the servo, hoping this helps to sort out this somewhat annoying problem. Regards, Gary
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📝 Boiler test #2 Engine test #1
6 months ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
Commodore)
Took the plug out of the top water gauge fitting loosened off the sight glass nuts then able to move the glass above the bottom fitting.Took the bottom fitting out using Teflon tape this time instead of product sent with the boiler.Put the fitting back in sight glass back in place nuts tightened up.Set up to re test boiler no leaks this time.
Filled the boiler to half the sight glass filled the gas tank.Hooked every thing up in the boat and fired the boil.With pressure built opened up the valve to the engine.Had a leak at the lubricator stopped the test fixed the leak and fired back up.Engine ran well.The big test will be water testing.
Rick
Filled the boiler to half the sight glass filled the gas tank.Hooked every thing up in the boat and fired the boil.With pressure built opened up the valve to the engine.Had a leak at the lubricator stopped the test fixed the leak and fired back up.Engine ran well.The big test will be water testing.
Rick
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💬 Re: Boiler test #2 Engine test #1
6 months ago by Newby7 (
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Thanks for the reply's.Martin and Stephen
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💬 Re: Boiler test #2 Engine test #1
6 months ago by stevedownunder (
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Moving rapidly Rick,
Well done with those pesky leaks. Cheers, Stephen. 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Boiler test #2 Engine test #1
6 months ago by Martin555 (
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Keep up the good work Rick.
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📝 Boiler test #1
6 months ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
Commodore)
For the first boiler test on the bench all went well,Filled the gas tank and set up the burner to the boiler.Using distilled water filled the boiler to half on the sight glass.Fired up the boiler to build pressure.The test showed a leak at the bottom sight glass bushing need to let cool down before I'm able to fix.
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💬 Re: Boiler test #1
6 months ago by Newby7 (
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The sight glass was good it was at the bushing.Will need to take the sight glass apart and re tape the threads to of the bottom brass elbow.
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💬 Re: Boiler test #1
6 months ago by Ianh (
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Sight glass leaks are normally caused by a pinched O ring. These O rings should be silicone not nitrile
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📝 Silver soldered
6 months ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
Commodore)
Made up all the piping from boiler to engine from stack to condenser from condenser to engine.Lagged down the boiler mounted the engine in spot to dry fit all piping. Satisfied the piping was good proceeded to silver solder all the pipe work.The next step will to steam the boiler to check all piping and run the engine under steam .
Rick
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6 months ago by figtree7nts (
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💬 Re: Silver soldered
6 months ago by Newby7 (
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Thanks GLC good to hear from you.I did wonder about the gas tank but will work with it for now.
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💬 Re: Silver soldered
6 months ago by GaryLC (
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Hi Rick, guess who? that is looking really good now, the boiler is spot on and should give you around 25 minutes on the water, mind gas tank looks a bit on the small side, been there and have done that and went back to gas canisters. Considering the speed that you can build these days, I reckon on that being just about complete any time soon. Regards, GLC.
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💬 Re: Silver soldered
6 months ago by mturpin013 (
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That looks really good, a very impressive installation.
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💬 Re: Silver soldered
6 months ago by Newby7 (
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Thanks all for your kind comments.I do enjoy building and have fully embraced steam as a way to power a boat.Not for everyone to get into steam as it is expensive and needs a lot of care for safety of yourself and others.
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💬 Re: Silver soldered
6 months ago by billmcl61 (
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This is looking good, very neat and professional installation, and you're coming along at a cracking pace.
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💬 Re: Silver soldered
6 months ago by Martin555 (
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That looks complicated work Rick.
But i must say it dose look really good. Martin555. 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Silver soldered
6 months ago by stevedownunder (
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looking good Rick,
Exciting stuff, well done. Cheers, Stephen. 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Silver soldered
6 months ago by RNinMunich (
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That's great Rick.
Looking forward to the chuff chuff vids😊 I have the utmost respect for those of us who have the courage to tackle model steam engines👍 Cheers, Doug😎 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Silver soldered
6 months ago by Newby7 (
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Thanks Doug the boiler came with UK certification .I will be able to run at our events.
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💬 Re: Silver soldered
6 months ago by RNinMunich (
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Awe inspiring Rick👍
Do you have to get the boiler certified before you can use it in a public area? 'Elf and Safety regs!🙄 Keep it up Cap'n Rick👍 😎 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Silver soldered
6 months ago by Newby7 (
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Thank you it has turned out well.
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💬 Re: Silver soldered
6 months ago by MouldBuilder (
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Wow. That looks really impressive. Nice work.👍
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📝 Banding
6 months ago by Newby7 ( Commodore)
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Thanks all for the interest in the build.Yesterday having finished the cladding and staining painting a coat of urethane. The kit came with two bands that I put on after drying to hold the wood in place also made a third band and put it on.In the process of making the tubing to run steam.
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💬 Re: Banding
6 months ago by RNinMunich (
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" ... will be taking some latter today."
Latter day photos, very good Rick👍 I do like a bit of nostalgia, not what it used to be though🤔 All right all right! Don't get steamed up😮 😁😎 BTW; very pretty broiler ... er boiler👍 👍 Like
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💬 Re: Banding
6 months ago by Newby7 (
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Thanks Martin will be taking some latter today.
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💬 Re: Banding
6 months ago by Martin555 (
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Don't forget the photos Rick.
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