To answer Alessandro - I got it right from deduction rather than knowledge !! I am beginning to learn how this AI sh1t thinks !!
In all honesty I have never seen RT on an Admiralty Chart - however - just to double check I will consult with some of my old colleagues in Taunton.
To answer Alessandro - I got it right from deduction rather than knowledge !! I am beginning to learn how this AI sh1t thinks !!
In all honesty I have never seen RT on an Admiralty Chart - however - just to double check I will consult with some of my old colleagues in Taunton.
Hi All. On the "RT" question which I got right by guess work. Like most of you I cannot find any reference to "RT" on any chart info except the Canadian & USA charts where it means "Radio Telephone Station". I agree with others suggestions that anyone getting it wrong should be awarded a free "got it right card" "DW" is more like the correct answer. This link might be handy to some people.
https://charts.gc.ca/publications/chart1-carte1/sections/v-abbrs/index-eng.html#R
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Hi All. On the "RT" question which I got right by guess work. Like most of you I cannot find any reference to "RT" on any chart info except the Canadian & USA charts where it means "Radio Telephone Station". I agree with others suggestions that anyone getting it wrong should be awarded a free "got it right card" "DW" is more like the correct answer. This link might be handy to some people. https://charts.gc.ca/publications/chart1-carte1/sections/v-abbrs/index-eng.html#R
I gave up looking about half way through. I have passed the question on to 3 people, one a retired Merchant skipper, two, a serving RN "two and a half ringer" and a coxswain on the Liverpool Pilot boat. It will be interesting to compare their answers..
I gave up looking about half way through. I have passed the question on to 3 people, one a retired Merchant skipper, two, a serving RN "two and a half ringer" and a coxswain on the Liverpool Pilot boat. It will be interesting to compare their answers..
Thanks so much, Nick.
This attachment is very welcome.
Chart 5011 is exactly what I was referring to when I said I clearly saw the abbreviation DW (Deep Water) corresponding to safely navigable sectors marked by magenta stripes or sectors.
You can see for yourself.
As I said, I wanted to attach a screenshot to show you, but my damn cell phone decided that wasn't possible (I'm far from books, maps, and a PC these days at sea).
I didn't find the abbreviation RT on the same map, but maybe it's just my oversight.
Has anyone seen it?
I don't think it's there.
It's not even listed on page 64 of the English abbreviations list.
If so, I would delete the question and remove the red line from RonH, which is very close to 100% correct.
Thanks so much, Nick.
This attachment is very welcome.
Chart 5011 is exactly what I was referring to when I said I clearly saw the abbreviation DW (Deep Water) corresponding to safely navigable sectors marked by magenta stripes or sectors.
You can see for yourself.
As I said, I wanted to attach a screenshot to show you, but my damn cell phone decided that wasn't possible (I'm far from books, maps, and a PC these days at sea).
I didn't find the abbreviation RT on the same map, but maybe it's just my oversight.
Has anyone seen it?
I don't think it's there.
It's not even listed on page 64 of the English abbreviations list.
If so, I would delete the question and remove the red line from RonH, which is very close to 100% correct.
The answer will be somewhere in here... the "key" to Admiralty Charts. All you ever wanted to know and more. Some of our international shipmates might find it interesting....
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The answer will be somewhere in here... the "key" to Admiralty Charts. All you ever wanted to know and more. Some of our international shipmates might find it interesting....
Guys, I guessed the right answer too, but only out of cleverness. Even knowing it was the wrong one, I bet on RT because it seems to suggest "Recommended Track."
However, I think it's wrong and the correct one is "Deep Water."
I know Italian nautical charts (those created and updated by the Italian Navy), but just for fun, I looked at yours too.
A side note: I have to say that your charts are very nice and full of information; many of the indications are the same as ours, others are different.
Well, I didn't find RT as a recommended route. RT is a radio beacon. Instead, I saw safe and recommended stretches of sea, marked by elongated, magenta polygonal stripes, indicated by the abbreviation DW (Deep Water). There's no risk of running aground.
No question about the other abbreviations as reported by the IA.
At this point, I ask you experts (especially Pat), what do you think?
Pat, I was surprised to see you RT. Is that really true?
Can you take a picture or send me a screenshot of a section of a nautical chart where the abbreviation RT appears?
This damn phone won't let me screenshot a map where the abbreviations DW appear.
Whoever made a mistake and got the red/pink/magenta (not green) line because they wrote DW, I think they have a good right to appeal to Stephen (Fireboat) to have their question revoked.
I take this quiz very seriously, hahaha.
Guys, I guessed the right answer too, but only out of cleverness. Even knowing it was the wrong one, I bet on RT because it seems to suggest "Recommended Track."
However, I think it's wrong and the correct one is "Deep Water."
I know Italian nautical charts (those created and updated by the Italian Navy), but just for fun, I looked at yours too.
A side note: I have to say that your charts are very nice and full of information; many of the indications are the same as ours, others are different.
Well, I didn't find RT as a recommended route. RT is a radio beacon. Instead, I saw safe and recommended stretches of sea, marked by elongated, magenta polygonal stripes, indicated by the abbreviation DW (Deep Water). There's no risk of running aground.
No question about the other abbreviations as reported by the IA.
At this point, I ask you experts (especially Pat), what do you think?
Pat, I was surprised to see you RT. Is that really true?
Can you take a picture or send me a screenshot of a section of a nautical chart where the abbreviation RT appears?
This damn phone won't let me screenshot a map where the abbreviations DW appear.
Whoever made a mistake and got the red/pink/magenta (not green) line because they wrote DW, I think they have a good right to appeal to Stephen (Fireboat) to have their question revoked.
I take this quiz very seriously, hahaha.
Do not get me on Brexit.... It was a manipulation, an exercise to see if it was possible to use so called science to alter a vote. Plus a foolish man in charge who never really understood what a percentage was.
He has gone, left us in the s**t, never I hope to be heard of again. Now if he was a company he, amongst, others could be sued for Corporate liablity, incompetence and criminal damage.
In the USA you have a situation where no previous presidents want to associate themselves with the present incumbent. Most countries trade with their neighbours! Always assuming you understand why.
Whist the turmoil goes on other countries are settling, debts, preducies, and personal ambitions in the hopes that their choice of retaliation will go unnoticed amidst the general free for all.
Roy
Do not get me on Brexit.... It was a manipulation, an exercise to see if it was possible to use so called science to alter a vote. Plus a foolish man in charge who never really understood what a percentage was.
He has gone, left us in the s**t, never I hope to be heard of again. Now if he was a company he, amongst, others could be sued for Corporate liablity, incompetence and criminal damage.
In the USA you have a situation where no previous presidents want to associate themselves with the present incumbent. Most countries trade with their neighbours! Always assuming you understand why.
Whist the turmoil goes on other countries are settling, debts, preducies, and personal ambitions in the hopes that their choice of retaliation will go unnoticed amidst the general free for all.
Hi RonH the facts are against you! You need to get the next 29 questions right to get back to where you were!
To get political if you vote once for the wrong person you may have to wait 5 years to rectify that!
Roy
Clearly on this thread a magenta dash is the road to oblivion! I had no idea of the answer but then the answer was in the question.
If the way forward in this world is with A.I. "don't go there".
On the other hand voting for popular politicians who can manipulate the facts to suit?
I think I have changed my mind!
Roy
If you look at the table you will see the headings at the top. Score, Correct, Incorrect and Unanswered.
The score is based on a sliding 30 days so if 30 are correct it will equate to 100%. Any in Incorrect or Unanswered will reduce the count in Correct and the Score percentage will drop.
Your position in the table is based on your Score.
An Unanswered or Incorrect question will take 30 days to disappear from your score.
You can track this on the dashes below your line, Green for Correct, Red for Incorrect and Grey for Unanswered
Hope this demystifies the scoring for those that are in the dark.
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If you look at the table you will see the headings at the top. Score, Correct, Incorrect and Unanswered.
The score is based on a sliding 30 days so if 30 are correct it will equate to 100%. Any in Incorrect or Unanswered will reduce the count in Correct and the Score percentage will drop.
Your position in the table is based on your Score.
An Unanswered or Incorrect question will take 30 days to disappear from your score.
You can track this on the dashes below your line, Green for Correct, Red for Incorrect and Grey for Unanswered
Hope this demystifies the scoring for those that are in the dark.
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I also wonder how many people “cheat” and look up the answers online before answering
The questions are so diverse and in poor English I think it is very difficult for people to get 100% without looking the answers online before up first
I also wonder how many people “cheat” and look up the answers online before answering
The questions are so diverse and in poor English I think it is very difficult for people to get 100% without looking the answers online before up first
Hi Steves-s. You have explained it well. It took me a while to figure it out. You will notice today all the 97% have one red dash except Jonbliss152 who has a grey dash because he hasn't as of yet answered todays question. In the morning all the people with a red dash will drop to 93% but if they answer correctly it will go back to 97%. This oscillates like this until a red dash drops off the right hand side. Does it makes sense? I have given up on that one 🤣
Hi Steves-s. You have explained it well. It took me a while to figure it out. You will notice today all the 97% have one red dash except Jonbliss152 who has a grey dash because he hasn't as of yet answered todays question. In the morning all the people with a red dash will drop to 93% but if they answer correctly it will go back to 97%. This oscillates like this until a red dash drops off the right hand side. Does it makes sense? I have given up on that one 🤣
I am not sure all the questions are for the intended audience but hay hoy - if you don’t like it you can just get out of Dodge !!!
I am not sure if this board is for me tbh - I will make my mind up before my next subscription is due.
Hi Pat,& Boatshed, I think I have figured it out!!! 😠🙄😜.....
Every day you loose a dash from the right-hand side of your score as a new question appears on the left. You have to get all questions right for a number of times to get rid of the red dashes, or the missed questions.🙄
So in my case of today, 25th July, I have to get all the question right for 12 or 13 days before the red dash drops off the list.🙄 Then I will hopefully go up a notch.
In your case, Pat, you have to get 5 or 6 right to move up the line. 😁.That's when you will loose a red dash off the list. Hope it makes a bit more sense now ??
If I'm using my computer, I can see the dashed lines easy, but on my old smart phone I even have trouble seeing some of the questions. Like the one ages ago when I miss read STEM when it was actually STERN and one of the answers was something about supporting the rudder on. I read it over a few times before I realized it said stern 🤓, need to go back to Specsavers, I think 😜.
Hi Pat,& Boatshed, I think I have figured it out!!! 😠🙄😜.....
Every day you loose a dash from the right-hand side of your score as a new question appears on the left. You have to get all questions right for a number of times to get rid of the red dashes, or the missed questions.🙄
So in my case of today, 25th July, I have to get all the question right for 12 or 13 days before the red dash drops off the list.🙄 Then I will hopefully go up a notch.
In your case, Pat, you have to get 5 or 6 right to move up the line. 😁.That's when you will loose a red dash off the list. Hope it makes a bit more sense now ??
If I'm using my computer, I can see the dashed lines easy, but on my old smart phone I even have trouble seeing some of the questions. Like the one ages ago when I miss read STEM when it was actually STERN and one of the answers was something about supporting the rudder on. I read it over a few times before I realized it said stern 🤓, need to go back to Specsavers, I think 😜.
I don’t understand the scoring either, no matter how many times they try to explain it.
It goes right over my head.
So it’s you and me both, I suppose there are others that also do not get it as well.
I seem to get 2 or 3 correct then I get at least one or two wrong.
I just seem to hover around the same place on the list and the same sort of % ratings.
So yes it’s a real pain in the butt.
I don’t understand the scoring either, no matter how many times they try to explain it.
It goes right over my head.
So it’s you and me both, I suppose there are others that also do not get it as well.
I seem to get 2 or 3 correct then I get at least one or two wrong.
I just seem to hover around the same place on the list and the same sort of % ratings.
So yes it’s a real pain in the butt.
I still cant understand this bloody scoring system - must be AI and programed by someone that tries to bite you in the a*rse when you are doing well. Some of the question I cant see what use the knowledge would be to a professional seafarer let alone a model maker.
I still cant understand this bloody scoring system - must be AI and programed by someone that tries to bite you in the a*rse when you are doing well. Some of the question I cant see what use the knowledge would be to a professional seafarer let alone a model maker.
Today's question had me confused as I have been to Bristol floating dock which has lock gates. Only the bit about ship repair led me to the answer but surely the lock gate answer is also correct in view of Bristol.
Today's question had me confused as I have been to Bristol floating dock which has lock gates. Only the bit about ship repair led me to the answer but surely the lock gate answer is also correct in view of Bristol.
I guess they tried to innovate, moving forward into a new age, pandering to "modern" aesthetics without fully understanding the complex metallurgy involved..
I guess they tried to innovate, moving forward into a new age, pandering to "modern" aesthetics without fully understanding the complex metallurgy involved..
Nickthesteam,
Your comment is exactly what jumped into my mind when I read this question. The second question I had was why that reasoning was missed by de Havilland?
I guess that water and air don't mix, at least not the engineers😂😂😂
Nickthesteam,
Your comment is exactly what jumped into my mind when I read this question. The second question I had was why that reasoning was missed by de Havilland?
I guess that water and air don't mix, at least not the engineers😂😂😂
This isn't actually as straightforward a question as it might seem.
As we mentioned a few months ago for another topic, it's also important to consider that the circle has the smallest ratio of perimeter to area.
This isn't actually as straightforward a question as it might seem.
As we mentioned a few months ago for another topic, it's also important to consider that the circle has the smallest ratio of perimeter to area.
I agree and bad as that was a stark reminder of tragedy at sea.
On land an earlier incident is the one that today still makes me go cold and come out in persperation. The night of the Branston pickle factory fire was an Englishman's worst nightmare! It led to panic buying on an unheard of scale. Reportedly the sale of Branston pickle went from 460 jars per week to 25000 jars in a matter of days. Many people came from near and far to help and production resumed 3 weeks later.
The date was the 27th. October 2004 also my dad's birthday, fortunately he never lived to see it for which the family is grateful.
I am also worried to see that Epicure's pickled walnuts were not on the shelves of our local supermarket. I will have to ration myself until they come back.
Life as we know it may soon fade away with these possible losses, after all what ever happened to OK sauce? These are the real "Question of the day"
I say no more.
Roy
I agree and bad as that was a stark reminder of tragedy at sea.
On land an earlier incident is the one that today still makes me go cold and come out in persperation. The night of the Branston pickle factory fire was an Englishman's worst nightmare! It led to panic buying on an unheard of scale. Reportedly the sale of Branston pickle went from 460 jars per week to 25000 jars in a matter of days. Many people came from near and far to help and production resumed 3 weeks later.
The date was the 27th. October 2004 also my dad's birthday, fortunately he never lived to see it for which the family is grateful.
I am also worried to see that Epicure's pickled walnuts were not on the shelves of our local supermarket. I will have to ration myself until they come back.
Life as we know it may soon fade away with these possible losses, after all what ever happened to OK sauce? These are the real "Question of the day"
I say no more.
Roy
Hi Lucky duck, I have done obscure and a lot is much clearer now especially since my cataract operations.
There are always side issues that we do not need to know as someone else elects themselves into our obscure for their tomorrow. Trust is the most important thing, with the world always trying work out what to believe against what some would have us believe.
The chances of me having to make the wreck decision is so remote it is beyond my vision, so perhaps not obscure but definitely distant and even obnubilated and distant.
Roy, (perhaps washed ashore but not yet wrecked).
Hi Lucky duck, I have done obscure and a lot is much clearer now especially since my cataract operations.
There are always side issues that we do not need to know as someone else elects themselves into our obscure for their tomorrow. Trust is the most important thing, with the world always trying work out what to believe against what some would have us believe.
The chances of me having to make the wreck decision is so remote it is beyond my vision, so perhaps not obscure but definitely distant and even obnubilated and distant.
Roy, often the obscure helps us all learn - maybe not very useful at our scales, but expands our knowledge and one day you may just need that obscure piece of knowledge?
Roy, often the obscure helps us all learn - maybe not very useful at our scales, but expands our knowledge and one day you may just need that obscure piece of knowledge?
Getting obscure again!
I used logic to answer the question, not having wrecks left in our pond, but this would be the course of action if they were!
Roy
Getting obscure again!
I used logic to answer the question, not having wrecks left in our pond, but this would be the course of action if they were!
Roy
They say you learn something every day, well I have.
When I subscribed I did it to support the cost of the site. I know how much web hosting costs, even for a small site.
I did not look at the added benefits this gave.
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They say you learn something every day, well I have.
When I subscribed I did it to support the cost of the site. I know how much web hosting costs, even for a small site.
I did not look at the added benefits this gave.
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Alesandro is right but has the negative the wrong way round and it says somewhere that this is a privilege for bronze and above.
It does highlight another point and that is financial contribution to the running of the web site!
Roy
Hi Edw, the screenshot SimpleSailor attached should clear up any doubts. It's a payment issue. You can't see it because you're a bronze member, not a basic member. If you have a basic account (for example, a friend's), you can see for yourself. Currently, all basic members, even with the best PC in the world and a fantastic internet connection, can't see questions from previous days, simply because of a forum rule.
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Hi Edw, the screenshot SimpleSailor attached should clear up any doubts. It's a payment issue. You can't see it because you're a bronze member, not a basic member. If you have a basic account (for example, a friend's), you can see for yourself. Currently, all basic members, even with the best PC in the world and a fantastic internet connection, can't see questions from previous days, simply because of a forum rule.
Hi Guys. The ability to see past questions is certainly to do with if you pay or not. I do not pay a monthly fee, but on occasion give a donation. It clearly says that you can only see past questions if you pay. However when I have donated I have NOT been able to see past questions. I was going to complain but life is too short 😁
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Hi Guys. The ability to see past questions is certainly to do with if you pay or not. I do not pay a monthly fee, but on occasion give a donation. It clearly says that you can only see past questions if you pay. However when I have donated I have NOT been able to see past questions. I was going to complain but life is too short 😁
Hi Alessandro, I doubt if it is paid or unpaid but it could be due to the browser you are using. Actions of Code in a web page can vary from browser to browser. This is one of the biggest headaches to coders in web development.
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Hi Alessandro, I doubt if it is paid or unpaid but it could be due to the browser you are using. Actions of Code in a web page can vary from browser to browser. This is one of the biggest headaches to coders in web development.
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