WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

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#45 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Assuming Santa will be late this year Colin, or is the sleigh out of the panel shop?😂 Be a bit hard finding replacement skilled reindeer at this late date😁!

JB
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#44 1

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To be fair, I would have been very surprised if you hadn't been aware of the Aerokits version.
I am looking forward to seeing yet another different version of Swordsman one day.

Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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#43 1

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Hi Will,

Yes, I am aware that Aerokits made a Swordsman as it was the first ever model boat kit that I made back in the 1960's.

I am currently making two more of them from the Aerokits plans - one as per kit and one with the aft cabin (not a Super Swordsman with the full Huntsman 31 type cabin).

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#42 1

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There are so many different models and varients of Faireys that could be built aren't there.
Where to stopis the question 😁

Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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#41 1

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Hi Will,

Your uncles Sou Too was one of the three different variants that could be had with the standard 33ft hull.

Maybe (one day) I will get the time to make all three variants!

Bob
Never too old to learn
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#40 1

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The rear cabin variant of the Swordsman, has its cabin top sitting in-between the cabin sides (combings) unlike the Super Swordsman that has a high cabin top like the Huntsman 31.

The Super Swordsman could also be ordered with two different lengths of longer hull too !

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#39 1

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Bob, my Uncles 'Sou Too', was an open cockpit Swordsman.
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
#38 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Hi Will,

I may make a Super-Swordsman in the future - but there are three types of 33ft Swordsman that are not Super Swordsman.

The raised cab type is like Tireui, the low cab type is as modelled in the Aerokits kit and there is also an open cockpit as well.

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#37 1

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Stephen, it is android 10, with the latest updates.
Cheers Colin.
Fair winds and calm waters,
COLIN.
#36 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

No need to apologise Colin.
Identifying models can be a bit of a mystery sometimes.
When you said Aerokits, as Bob said, they didn't do a Huntsman, but I knew they did a Swordsman.
My avatar/profile picture is a Swordsman 33 that my Uncle used to own, called Sou Too. He owned an aft cabin Huntsman 31 before that, called Sou.

Regards
Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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#35 1

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Good evening Will, sorry yes hers is the swordsman 33.
I think it originally had the open rear deck area but she converted it to an aft cabin version to match one we hired for a Weekend, about 30 years ago.
Sorry don't have any pictures in my phone or laptop but will search for one on wife's pc.
Cheers Colin.
Fair winds and calm waters,
COLIN.
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#34 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Bob, as per a picture Colin shared, you can see the slight differences in design between the Swordsman and Super Swordsman here:
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
#33 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Bob, Aerokits did however make a Swordsman.
Colin , could your wifes boat be a Swordsman and not a Huntsman? That's if it is an Aerokit model?
Does it look like the one in this picture Colin?

Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
#32 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Bob, an aft cabin Swordsman is called a Super Swordsman, still 33' in length, but the aft cabin isn't as pronounced as the Huntsman aft cabin version.

Good to hear that you're making progress on the Huntsman sport.
Tea box eh, hmm, will that work as well as my Crunchy nut cornflakes (other cereals are available) box? 😆
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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#31 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Hi Will,

A 1/11 scale 34" Huntsman 31 hull from a Precedent kit has exactly the right hull form and dimensions for use as a base for a 1/12 scale Solent Spear.

I have acquired a 34" Precedent g/f hull for this purpose - but I have the 1/12 scale Swordsman (two versions) as new builds and a 1/11 scale Huntsman Sport to finish first!

The long term restoration of my Sterling Chris Craft Corvette has been "put on ice" until the warmer weather comes next year as it is too big to work on in my workshop(shed) with the Fairey hulls needing the bench space!

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#30 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Hi Colin,

As far as I know Aerokits never made a 34" Huntsman, but it sounds like yours was built from an early Modav kit before Precedent started making them with a revised inter-lock assembly method.

Maybe your wife's similar model came from a later Huntsman 31 Precedent kit?

If so, then Modav plans would cover them both if any new parts needed to be cut in the future - and I have a set of Modav plans in the post and could be able to help (if needed) in the future.

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#29 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Hi Will,

I have already cut a new cabin template for my 34" Huntsman 31 Sport - this time made from a box of Yorkshire Tea teabags...it makes a change from my usual choice of old cereal boxes!

The new Huntsman Sport cabin sides were made by drawing around the remains of the existing wooden cab sides and then sketching-in the new lines to the rear end as required.

Next I will take a look at improving that dreadful front cab window and that will give a better cabin top shape too.

We will have to compare notes - but I am well on with modifying my Swordsman (being built from Aerokits plans) to become the rear cabin type so I want to finish that first (but sneak-in some time on the Huntsman when glues are drying etc) 😎

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#28 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Colin, the Fairey Marine boats are such a nice design and most of the model versions of them seem to do that justice.
I am trying slowly, to work towards having a model version of a few of the them, Huntress, Huntsman 28, Huntsman 31 and Swordsman 33.
There was also a boat called the Solent Spear, which shared a Fairey designed hull, that is one that I would like to attempt to build a version of at some time in the future.

Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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#27 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

My wife has a 34" huntsman by aerokits, and mine was produced by Model Avionics. But sadly we don't have the plans anymore. But I think that the 34" versions were all the same. Any repairs needed in the future will be freehand.
Cheers Colin.
Fair winds and calm waters,
COLIN.
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#26 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Bob, I will try and remember to have a look at the joints etc later.

I'm pretty much set on the idea that this one will be converted into an aft cockpit/Sport version, seeing as I'm going to have to make another Cabin etc for it anyway. At least the cabin/superstructure on my 47" is intact and undamaged, apart from things like glazing and deatiling.
Oh, the other thing I have GOT TO DO on the 47, is do the waterline properly. That's one of my pet hates with so many Fairey models, usually models of 31's, the waterline isn't straight and I absolutely hate it(personal taste/choice of course)

Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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#25 1

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jacko, that's a nice looking model. I bet it looks good on the water.
It has an Aerokits look about it too.

Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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#24 1

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this is called a sea princess from the

http://eezebilt.tk/SeaPrincess.html

i built this in ply / balsa wood but had to mod a few bits to get them to fit
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#23 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Hi Will,

My guess is that they will be the same - except the Precedent version will have been modified to the inter-locking construction.

You could check for this by looking at the various joints (cab sides to front windscreen joint could be worth a look) for tell-tale signs of this jig type build.

When my copy of the Modav pans arrive it may reveal alternative ways of trying to ID your model for you.

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#22 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Afternoon Bob, to be honest, I am only presuming that mine is a Precedent kit because it is 34" in length. If the Modav one is also 34" there's as much chance of it being one of theres as a Precedent one.
The cabin/superstructure just sits on top of the deck on this one.
There is a small/narrow strip of timber all the way around, fixed onto the deck and the superstructure sits inside that. There are(were) also two taps glued onto the sides of to screw the top down.
It will definitely be interesting to see if the Modav plans resemble what I have bought.

Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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#21 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

The 34" Precedent Huntsman 31 was first made by Modav and it was an all wooden kit that came with a full size plan.

A friend has kindly taken his original Modav plan to a print shop and had it copied for me.

It is currently "in the post" but when it arrives I will check to see if Precedent deviated from the "original" or if they only modified the kit to make it an inter-lock construction - but kept the basic shapes the same.

Once they modified the kit to an inter-locking construction they felt no need to include full size plans and replaced them with the step by step assembly drawings that was included in their kits. These were OK when building a new kit - but plans are much better when re-constructing an old model!

I will report back when they arrive to see if they are any help.
Never too old to learn
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#20 1

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Thank you very much Geoff, I'll keep that in mind, much appreciated.

I hope you get the chance to bring yours back to life again. The Faireys are such a nice looking boat and depending how much detail goes onto the scale equivalent, they can be so very realistic.

Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
Liked by Martin555
#19 1

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Thanks for Reply, Will, Let me know if there is anything I can do from what I have. One of my tasks for next year will be to get this boat down and bring it back to life.
Regards
Geoff
Geoff L.
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#18 1

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Hi Colin,
Ha Ha I did not expect that in the video.

Martin555.
If it looks right it probably is.
#17 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Thank you Philcaretaker, some nice examples of aft cabin Huntsman 31's there.

Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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#16 1

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Geoff,

Thank you very much for the offer.

Zooma has mentioned he may have a set of plans coming, so I will wait and see what info those reveal.

What I may have to do, is print off a set of Huntsman plans that I have from, but they aren't Precedent ones and differ slightly. But, as long as I get the scale correct, I should be able to modify them to fit the Precedent hull.

Thanks again.
Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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#15 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Thank you Colin, I do have these saved and plenty of others too, but not the plan or parts template for the Precedent kit. That's what I am really looking for to be honest.

Thank you very much though.

Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
Liked by Martin555
#14 1

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Thank you Jacko, but isn't that an Aerokits model though?
It definitely isn't a Fairey Marine based model and if it is only 23" in length, then I'm not sure which Aerkits model it is as it appears to be a small version of a Sea Queen/Sea Commander.

Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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#13 1

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Thank you Bob, much appreciated.

Will be interesting to see whether the cabin/superstucture on mine is like the plan, or something that somebody has scratchbuilt.

Will
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
Liked by Martin555
#12 1

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And this is is the 34' Huntress by SLEC and sold as a kit
Only old in years not mind or soul.
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#11 1

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Here is a Fairey Huntsman at 23.5" Long designed by Dave Milbourn
Only old in years not mind or soul.
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#10 1

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Now that is an interesting bit of information and something that I can share with my non - Fairey Marine liking friends!

"These boats were never beaten by another manufacturer of the same class of boat in all the races they entered"

Pure GOLD Colin and a fact that I will be quoting (quite often) to the "non-believers"🤣

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#9 1

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Loads of information and pictures on the Fairey Marine website. Faireymarine.com
It's probably worth visiting the fairey owners club site as well.
These boats were never beaten by another manufacturer of the same class of boat in all the races they entered.
Cheers Colin.
Fair winds and calm waters,
COLIN.
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#8 1

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That looks nice - sort of like a small Sea Commander or an even smaller Sea Queen - maybe it could be a Sea Cadet?

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#7 1

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Hi Colin,

Thanks for sharing this set of Fairey Marine profiles.

Very interesting and helpful!

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#6 1

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Just thought that these details will help any fairey marine modellers.
And some great footage on YouTube
Called ride the white horses 1,2 and 3.
Also a good book on the fairy's.
Cheers Colin.
Fair winds and calm waters,
COLIN.
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#5 1

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Will,
I have a 1980'version of the Precedent Fairey Huntsman in the loft of my garage, If you would like I can send pics and can also draw aroung the side panels for you, Regret Have no plan.
Geoff.L PS Might even be able to get it down this evening!
Geoff L.
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#4 1

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built this but only 23 inch long
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#3 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Hi Will,

I should have a copy set of the original 34" Modav Huntsman 31 plans arriving later this week.

When they arrive I will check to see if they have the same front cabin window shape as the smaller 34" Precedent Huntsman 31.

If it does then it may not be much help, but at least it will make a handy 1/11 scale reference from which to work from when making changes to improve the shape.

Bob.
Never too old to learn
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#1 1

WANTED - Precedent Fairey Huntsman Plan/parts diagrams needed to make repairs and corrections.

Hi folks, I have recently added a 34" Precedent Fairey Huntsman to my fleet.
For some reason, the cabin/superstructure has been made too big and not to scale. Plus, it was damaged slightly during delivery (a chance you have to take when these things are so often too far away).
So, I really need either a set of plans, or a parts diagram so that I can I can both repair and also correct the inaccurate parts.
If anyone can help me with the above, I'd be hugely grateful. I don't mind if it's a paper or electronic copy, either would be gratefully received.
I am aware that only the earlier kits came with a plan apparently, the later ones just had a build guide.
It's a plan or parts diagram to make the relevant parts from that I really need, Pretty please 🤞😇

Thanks in advance to anyone who comments or gets in touch.


Will.
Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46"
Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42"
Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36"
Aerokits Sea Commander 34"
Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2"
SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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