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    ๐Ÿ“ Motor follow up
    17 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    During the gearbox inspection, I noted one of the large plastic gear missing a tooth. That is the source of the noise. I do not have a method to repair it, so I lubricated the gears with a generous amount of marine grease... Hopefully it will last a few more years. I also reduced the battery voltage to 2S ( 7.4 volts ) instead of the 3S.


    I still need to see if there is a great affect on the boat's speed in the water.


    Isaac

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Motor follow up
    17 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Lew


    Yes, I did see that video a few weeks ago.

    However, the gear tooth missing is so tiny, that my shaky hands will not be able to glue it in place properly or at all.

    For now, letโ€™s see how the cleaned up and lubricated gears work and for how long.


    Thanks , I wish I could do it.


    Isaac
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Motor follow up
    17 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ LewZ ( Commodore)
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    Isaac, I recently saw a method of repairing spur gears that have damaged or missing teeth. They took silicon or modeling clay and pressed it on a good section of the gear thus making a mold. They filled that with epoxy (JBWeld probably). Curred, that shaped it to match the damaged area (also trimmed) and cemented that in place. One could conceivably make a new gear with the same method.
    For those with 3D printers there are apps to easily make your own gears.
    Lew
    Florida โ›ฑ๏ธ, USA ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
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    ๐Ÿ“ Motor mount repair
    19 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    The two screws holding the brushed motor to the orange gearbox backed off completely.

    Unfortunately there is no access to their screws because the builder glued the wood part after the assembly was bolted together.

    I had to break off the wood plate. Amazingly it separated cleanly at its original lines.

    I now separated the assembly, cleaned the plastic gear and noted one tooth was mostly missing. Oh well. This is an old Robbe gearbox, and I just lubricated the gears and closed it all up.

    It works fine, but is noisy.


    I then reconnected the coupling and applied a generous amount of epoxy back to the wood mounting plate.


    All fine. A bit noisy, but ok. Letโ€™s see how long it lasts.

    Isaac

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Motor mount repair
    18 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    I tested the boat after the repair in my pond at my backyard. I applied forward power, but then reversed it to maneuver. Everything stopped and no response from the boat. No power at all.

    Removed the boat from the water and back to the bench for diagnostics.

    I found the 30 amp fuse blown.

    Not sure if it happened as a result of the motor disconnecting earlier, or maybe a piece of the gear tooth jammed the gears.

    I did turn the prop manually and no issues. I then installed a jumper cable at the fuse harness and it ran fine again.


    I ordered more fuses and will test again.

    Running the motors on 3S LiPo battery

    Approx 14-16 volts


    I will reduce to 2S 7.4 volts to see if it is better for the system.


    Who knows. Itโ€™s a fishing expedition ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

    Isaac
    ๐Ÿ“ Loose motor
    19 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    I went yesterday to the lake with the big Torpedo boat.

    As I checked the boat prior to launch, I noticed that the number 3 motor was loose off the gearbox housing. I had no tools, so I hand tighten it. Bad idea!

    The run in the water went great. All fun.

    I then returned after 10 minutes as it somehow slowed down.


    Results: the motor completely disengaged. At least I had two more motored to rerun to port.

    Home for repairs.


    I will explain the repairs next.

    Isaac

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Loose motor
    18 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ LewZ ( Commodore)
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    Bottom line is you just can't beat a Flysky as the best bang for your buck. (Translated to non-US English: value for your money).
    Lew
    Florida โ›ฑ๏ธ, USA ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
    ๐Ÿ“ Radio
    19 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    I replaced the radio with yet again another radio. This one was Flysky 5 channel surface radio. I did it because the old Spectrum receiver went dead in the middle of the lake. This new one is working great. I liked it so much, I purchased 5 more receivers and converted 4 more boats to that system. Transmitter has 20 model memory.
    $70 USD on Amazon.
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Radio
    18 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Rear Admiral)
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    Very good for radios.
    ๐Ÿ“ Transmitter and receiver changed
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Just to be clear, I changed both. These are used routinely on my RC planes. So I know they work.


    I never had issues with the Spektrum radios.


    Iโ€™ll let you know when I run the boat again.

    Isaac

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Transmitter and receiver changed
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Isaac, ok the new one works great, but before throwing away the old one try to understand if it's the receiver that's wrong or the transmitter or both.
    ๐Ÿ“ Radio and ponds
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Rudy


    I use the Spektrum line of radios on all my RC planes with no issues. But in this case, I used an old set and it may be the cause of failure. Iโ€™m using a newer set now and will check it out.


    Lew
    Yes rocks in the pond. Like all Florida developments they dig holes to make retention ponds. The bottom is not smooth. They leave rocks and debris on the bottom. And at low water level, they stick out

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Radio and ponds
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Len, very colorful but effective review, hahahaha!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Radio and ponds
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Len1 ( Lieutenant)
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    Isaac I tried using the newer Spectrum items and had nothing but trouble, aggravation with the products, and NO support from their customer service representatives. Finally gave up on them, sold off all the Spectrum stuff and switched to Flysky. Great products at a good price.
    I know why they named the product line Specktrum because it rhymes with rectum and you know what you get out of your rectum.๐Ÿ˜
    Len
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Radio and ponds
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Isaac, luckily this problem happened to a naval RC model and not to an airplane.
    A nice advantage for ship modelers.

    In your opinion, is the problem in the transmission of the radio signal or in the reception?
    Have you checked this yet?
    If I understand correctly, you replaced both the receiver and the transmitter (radio control), right?

    If you have already answered my question but I didn't translate well and I didn't understand, please excuse me.
    ๐Ÿ“ Dead in the water
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    A beautiful day to take this big boat on the big pond here. I lowered the boat into the water, radio was working. I applied power and slowly left the dock. However, I noticed that the rudder control was reversed ( I used my Spekrum 6 channel airplane transmitter and receiver radio ). That was strange. So I reversed the power and got the boat back to the dock. I started going thru the menu of the transmitter and in the process of finding the correct menu, I reversed the rudder. But silly me, the rudder for the boat is on the right stick ( aileron side in airplane speak ). So I reversed the boat and got it back to the side of the dock still in the water. Once again as I changed the setting to reverse the servo direction for the boat, I did not pay attention and the boat drifted away from the dock and was approx 50 yards from shore. By itself this would not be a problem...๐Ÿคž



    but...............๐Ÿ˜”


    For some reason, the boat was not responding . No communication on any channel. Nothing working. Not even the horn. It was dead in the water.


    Luckily, I knew the kayak vendor right there and he let me used his kayak to rescue my bost.


    After that save, I raised the boat out of the water and sure enough, nothing on the boat was working. However, after I restarted both transmitter and receiver, all was fine and working correctly.

    feeling OK, I launched the boat again and it ran fine for over 10 minutes.


    then....๐Ÿ˜”

    As I placed the motors into reverse about 20 yard away from the dock, it died again. So back into the kayak and I rescued it again.


    I took it home and decided to replace the receiver taken from one of my RC airplanes as well as program my other newer Spekrum transmitter. All is working!!!!!!!!!!!


    I am yet to test it in the water. My local pond behind my house is so shallow now that I do not feel comfortable running it for fear of hitting rocks ( I already had that experience once ).


    I hope this fixes things.

    I wonder if the original old Robbe ESC/BEC has something to do with killing power to the receiver?


    Isaac

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Dead in the water
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Rudy-M ( Midshipman)
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    Just throw the Spektrum in the pond. It solved most of my issues.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Dead in the water
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ LewZ ( Commodore)
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    Rocks in the pond... in Florida?
    Lew
    Florida โ›ฑ๏ธ, USA ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
    ๐Ÿ“ Another run
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    The โ€œseasโ€ were rough today at our local public pond. I did a short run though.

    My modified cart and cradle worked well

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Another run
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Another run


    This time with my blue research ship



    Isaac
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Another run
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi Isaac, hats off for your mechanical skills.
    I remain very admired by your cart.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Another run
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Here are photos of the setup. Iโ€™m demonstrating it on a different boat.


    Works great๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘

    Isaac
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Another run
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Yes, I am a mechanical engineer and also inventor specializing in jet engines. Thank you.

    As for the cart, it started with all the canvas extra sides and bottom with braces. I removed all of the non needed braces ( cut them with a hacksaw ). Now it is folding up nicely with minimum weight. I added foam pads on the bottom to support any of my boats. I then decided to also include the separate PVC pipe cradle. Now , I can load the boat at my car ( SUV ), place the cradle on the cart, and then the boat on the cradle. I now can drive it on the pavement all the way to the dock. I can also drive it on the grass to ponds that do not have a dock.

    All fun๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž


    Isaac
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Another run
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช hermank ( Captain)
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    Isaac you must be an engeneer or an inventor or a combination of both
    what a practical thing to transport your boat!!!!!!!
    congratulations well invented!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Another run
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ cdnfurball ( Warrant Officer)
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    I really like your idea with the folding cart ! ๐Ÿค”
    ๐Ÿ“ Mounted
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    This huge 6.5 ft long boat is now fully operational. But I have no room for it inside the house. It was just taking valuable table space in the garage.

    I decided to build a shelf for it on the garage side wall ( concrete blocks ).

    Now this big boat has a proper place in between missions

    ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž

    Isaac

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mounted
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    RossM

    I don't understand your comment about resetting the funnel? What do you mean?


    Isaac
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Mounted
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ RossM ( Lieutenant)
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    So, you reset the centre funnel?
    ๐Ÿ“ Show and tell
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Isaac ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Now that the old torpedo boat is operational and running fine, I was asked to do a short Show and Tell about it. I will present it to a club in the Sarasota ( Florida ) area soon.

    I wish I knew the original builder's story. There must be at least some hundreds of hours worth of build here.

    I just repaired it and made it sea worthy again.

    Picture is from the original owner. ( the submarine in the back was sold to a collector in Texas ).


    Isaac

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