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    VINTAGE RUNABOUT -NEW WINTER PROJECT?
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    1 day ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Having a go at making a nav light 'mono cluster' using the usual Xmas tree LEDs. LEDs were cut off the string, and stripped back to their original form. They were then soldered +to+ -to- and soldered to a fine wire lead. A streamlined housing was made with balsa, and hollowed out to accept the twin red and green paired LEDs. A ply bottom plate was made (after hot-melting in the LEDs,) and glued to the bottom with the lead protruding. A black card separator was slid between the 2 lamps.

    Yet to be reduced in size and finished. but seems to work ok. A spotlight will be another thing to make, (found some 15mm plastic screw covers at the hardware previously, which are perfect for this.
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    6 hours ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hard part Mike, is getting it small enough without it falling apart ! (hence the ply base) Might have to resin coat it yet.

    JB
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    6 hours ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Stephen, I'll be painting it chrome like the rest of the bits. The paint you are talking about is quite expensive (if it's the stuff I'm thinking of,- looked at it a few years back) it's a multi step process, but for the money, some people were saying it wasn't particularly worth it. Same problems as the normal chrome paint by all accounts, but lasts a bit better. Not really economical for small projects , more for bike tanks etc, as it's a 2 pack system. Think that lot's about AUD $50 but probably not shippable (dangerous goods)

    https://alsacorp.com/product/easy-chrome/

    JB
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    19 hours ago by stevedownunder ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Looking good JB,

    Are you going to paint the light fitting chrome?
    If you are I saw a guy on YouTube who first painted gloss black as a primer then put the chrome over and the results were great, maybe try it on some scrap first.

    Cheers,
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    22 hours ago by mturpin013 ( Rear Admiral)
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    That looks like it will be a nice addition to the boat, nicely modelled, I look forward to seeing it in place
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    3 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Finally got the paint something like I wanted, despite dust, moisture, storms, pollen, cold and anything else which was sent to stop me. Still not perfect, but it will have to do, as my varnish is going off in the can causing problems, and we are in lockup for yet another week, and nothing is open☹️. Lots more to do in the way of trimming etc, painting the bottom, making some more fittings etc. Transom will have to wait for more coats.

    Screen frame is coming along, but still have the top frame to add, plus the screens. It's not attached yet, as I still have some hold down tabs to add to the center. It will be screwed on so if damaged it can be removed for repair. Received some new 32mm props the other day (LH/RH), but still waiting for the skippers mates' body parts (plus other bits) to come (over a month now and apparently just left China !?) Think he'll have found a new 'squeeze' by the time they get here😁

    Photos are rubbish, as it's really dull today. The camera does not like it for some reason and won't auto focus properly.
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    1 day ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Sea trials are a little way off yet Peter, still a bit to do. Have to wait a week or so for the varnish on the deck to harden enough, so as not to be marked when I turn it over to paint the bottom (not his girlfriends😁) Rudders are done, props are here, sounds are in (stereo and engine), just a bit of trimming, the windscreen to finish, and some lights to fit. In the process of making a one piece nav light cluster and a spotlight.

    We're doing 'porridge' for another week if we have been good little kiddies, so that stops you buying anything (especially paint for the bottom etc.) Need more varnish for the transom maybe, as well.

    JB
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    1 day ago by redpmg ( Commodore)
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    I have heard of the Headless Horseman JB - but the Headless Starkers Lady??????????????

    Not far to go now - looking good - when are the sea trials?
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    1 day ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Stephen, thanks for the comment, (looks better in the pic than it actually is,- but near enoughπŸ˜€) Good idea with the paper trick (shouldn't have to 'fool' expensive cameras should we?!) but I might have found a solution. I suddenly got sick of dud inside photos and decided to have a play with a number of settings (this thing has dozens, a bit like fancy watches where you only ever use one or two functions, but have lots you will never use) I found a setting which adjusts to LED light (and probably flouros - they have little yellow) and it works quite well without the flash, inside, (better if you use a tripod).

    I've previously tried about 1/2 the settings (light, speed, exposure, flash etc (each has lots of settings) and had varying results inside, (outside no probs) but this seems to work. You are right about the manual focus, but my eyes have deteriorated so much, that the diopter won't adjust any more and I can't see the focus properly☹️ Still have my old Voightlander (120 film) camera, which was an ex press camera (similar to pic,-top wiewfinder flips open) which has even been to Antarctica,❄️ - took great portrait pics, but no film available now. All my teenage years pics were taken with that.

    Pic is with the new setting,- no flash- lots better, and actually focusses. His girlfriend's been out on the turps, and is feeling a bit light headed,- left it at a party in China😁

    JB
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    2 days ago by stevedownunder ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi JB,
    Your runabout is looking great very glassy finish and your wind screen is coming along nicely.

    I tend to agree with Graham, my Nikon does something similar on high gloss surfaces.
    I find I can trick the camera by placing a piece of paper on what I want to photograph press the shutter button half way to focus then while holding the button remove the paper and fully depress.
    The other option is to turn off the auto focus and do it manually.

    Cheers,
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    2 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Thanks Graham, I think the camera has trouble focussing on a whole area, (even though it has a selection of formats), and doesn't like it if the flash is turned off, as it relies on feedback from small pre flashes to set itself in low light. Works fine in good light though. My old film Olympus OM1 would do what you told it, unlike this digital stuff (Olympus E500 ) 12 yrs old, cost me $1300, and you can't buy batteries any more😐!. Luckily I managed to find some aftermarket ones in US. My old OM1 was about 35yrs old when I sold it,- just took a common NmH cell.

    JB
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    2 days ago by Graham93 ( Commodore)
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    JB,

    Very nice finish, worth all the time and effort. I wonder if the camera auto focus was confused by the reflections of your highly polished surfaces?

    Graham93
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    7 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I've made a slightly deeper 'die' for the fairleads now, and there is a bit more width on them to play with . Also came up with a way of assembling the windscreen frame on a bent ply base, (same curve as the deck), which as worked well. Just the top to attempt now. Yet another coat of varnish (7 I think,-lost count) after a good sand with 400, which has made a bit more progress towards full coverage. Left the previous coat to dry for 3 days due to the wet weather, and the need for a good sand. I think 1 more coat ought to do it, but will only know at the time.
    Cold weather ain't good for varnishing
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    7 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Stephen, the jig's pretty basic but it seems to have done the job. Only thing is, the screen is bound to get damaged at some stage, as it's pretty fragile as you can imagine. Might have to make some sort of carry box for the boat. Weather is getting better slowly, but still high winds and rain, (up to 180kph down south, trees down on roads etc everywhere, - and that's after the big floods we've just had. It's you guys burning all those gum trees over there that's doing it😁
    This was 3pm on a sunny day, last big ones. Hope you don't get any more this summer.

    JB
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    7 days ago by stevedownunder ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi JB,
    Looking good, the windscreen jig is great.
    Won't be long now and the weather will worm up.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    10 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Just finished a quick sanding and filing test on one of the fairleads, and it turned out reasonably well. These are quite small ( 12L x6H x2W) and reasonably strong. I am going to make another 'die' about 3.5mm wide if possible as these are a little thin. This should allow them to be finished to 3mm Wide, and to be a bit stronger. Ok for a first try I think, and still useable.

    Also forgot I had found these handy little items in the hardware store, which can be used to make 5mm diam spotlights. These are pop on screw covers and have a clear base with a slot for a screw. This can be replaced with clear acrylic or left as is and an LED fitted. $5 a pack of 12. Could be used for ventilator cowl fronts, large mushroom vents or whatever.
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    10 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Tried resin casting the small fairleads today, and they came out of the mould easily. Could have made them a bit thicker, but I'll see what they look like once finished. Had some resin left over so cast another air scoop and anchor fairlead. Varnish is 6 coats and counting, (if it wasn't for all the pollen and dust in the air at the moment, it would be a lot smoother. Weather's rubbish at the moment, so cant rush it, even if I wanted to, (drying is very slow), 24hrs later and still slightly tacky😐
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    10 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi TD, been just warming it in the oven at about 50C for an hour and once cool, can be popped out of the mould, and is quite firm (gets harder with time a well.) - sandable after about 2 hrs. Haven't had any problems with air bubbles as I let the resin 'rest' for a few minutes to let any out. You shouldn't get too many if you stir the resin gently (same thing with varnish)
    If you move the resin around slowly in your mixing container after mixing, it will help remove any bubbles which may be trapped. Also if you force it to set fast (too much catalyst) it will set before the bubbles can escape.

    I'm using Polyester resin which is the quickest and easiest to work with for small things and is not too fussy about mixing ratios. This resin has a light blue tint and changes colour to clear as it hardens. Seems to last for maybe a year at least if tightly sealed in a cool position (bought this can last year and it's still good. I always put the lid back on immediately after removing the required amount, to stop moisture entering.

    Just tested some F/Glass resin I bought about 6 yrs ago when sheathing my 12ft racing dinghy resto. Suspected the hardener might have gone off and thought I'd see if it was still useable (cost $100 for 4L so didn't want to waste about a litre of resin) Looked a bit brown from the hardener, but went off ok,- quite surprised!.

    JB
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    10 days ago by ToraDog ( Midshipman)
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    Very nice. Are you allowing them to free harden, or did you use a pressure or vacuum pot to reduce air bubbles in the resin? My resin is rather finicky in that it's self life, once opened, is about 6 months. After that it absorbs too much water and it's ability to harden degrades significantly.
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    11 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Trying a bit more resin casting, this time trying fairleads. The anchor one was finished and painted, so thought I'd have a play making a rough die for imprinting the clay. Made the shape from 3x3mm square balsa pieces and glued them to a balsa holder. It was then all hardened with thin Cyano and then pressed into the flat clay piece. The wider holder acts as a stop, so you can re-create exactly the same piece each time.

    They will need finishing, as they are just slightly bigger than needed, and will be slightly rough when taken from the mould, (as were the vents and anchor fairlead) and with a long end for possibly holding when painting (filed off later) As long as the mould lasts they could be made in batches for future use. Easy enough to make a bigger die as well. The mould is easy to recreate from the clay as well if it breaks. The moulds need to be kept on the same flat surface after the impressions are made, as if you move them by hand they will distort before air drying or oven heating.

    Another coat of varnish today as well, (no 6), pic of coat 5. Slowly smoothing out as the grain fills.
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    8 days ago by mturpin013 ( Rear Admiral)
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    Great idea, with good results
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    11 days ago by Graham93 ( Commodore)
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    Hi JB,

    I like the casting technique. πŸ‘ Might have a go for fairleads on the Rescue Launch

    Graham93
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    16 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Trying to clear varnish in cold weather is so much fun😐 3 days, 3 coats, and probably a week to go. Only using an airbrush and applying thin coats, as thick brushed coats would take a month to dry between coats. This varnish (Aust Bondall marine varnish) is thinned about 15%, and takes 24 hrs to be firm enough to sand. I couldn't use an NGR stain, (non grain raising) so the ply grains stood out a bit in places, but are slowly disappearing. The red stain is getting darker with each varnish coat which is what I'm after.

    Update - Had some sun today, so put it outside to get a suntan.
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    16 days ago by stevedownunder ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Looking stunning JB,
    Love the deep red.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    16 days ago by mturpin013 ( Rear Admiral)
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    Patience JB, it will be great when finished
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    18 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Vents now sanded, sealed and chrome painted (1st coat) They haven't come out too badly considering the crude moulding method. I've also made a different vent and a clay mould for the bow roller to be resin cast later, (both have been baked like the vents.) I think this clay is my new favourite moulding material, as when it's dry, it can be sanded or painted with anything, and used as is, ( even resin coated for more strength) or as another female mould master. About $11 a 1.1lb block.

    The vents have 3mm screws cyano'd into drilled holes in the bottoms, so they can be bolted on later, and be removable for re-painting.
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    16 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Thanks JB πŸ‘
    I'll look out for that.
    Last year I tried an EXPENSIVE €€€ two part system, paint plus activator πŸ™„, intended for the plastic bodies of cars and buggies.
    Came out looking more like Hammerite textured 'non-slip' grey ☹️
    Cheers, Doug 😎
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    17 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    It's definitely a problem getting a chrome finish Stephen, especially with paint, as it dulls if you touch it or spray clear on it. You could get plastics etc chrome plated, but the cost would be astronomical for a small item. There are a few processes, (actual chroming, vacuum sprayed metallic vapour etc) but they are multi step processes which involve labour and material costs at every step, so not really for tiny jobs. Chromed parts in kits are obviously mass produced, so the cost would be reduced. There is also vacuum applied thin foil, but it's only for flat surfaces.

    I think paint is the only option for modellers, unless you have money to burn, and don't mind waiting for months. The paint always looks like stainless after a while, which is a shame. I found if you handle it with a soft cloth, and don't touch it with your fingers, it lasts longer, as the sweat on some peoples' fingers may be slightly acidic, and react with the aluminium particles in the paint, (an old saying in engineering was that some people had 'rusty fingers' as any metal they touched showed their finger marks, while other people didn't have that effect. I've seen it myself , especially on machined surfaces, - you can even see their finger prints.

    I've made these removable for the inevitable future touch-ups.

    JB
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    17 days ago by stevedownunder ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Looks good JB,
    Chrome paint I have found to be a problem always difficult to get that really chrome finish.
    Nice idea for moulding and good result.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    17 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Looks better 'in person' Doug, and better now they have a second sprayed coat, (first was a thick brushed coat)

    JB
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    18 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    They've turned out pretty well JB πŸ‘ Esp. for a first try.
    Paint reminds me more of stainless steel than chrome but that's OK as well.
    What brand paint is it?
    Cheers, Doug 😎
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    18 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Just having a play with moulding some deck vents. I used JOVI air dry modelling clay and made impressions with a cyano hardened mould on a stick (pic) Baked it in the oven at 100deg C for a few hours and left it there overnight, after turning the heat off. Today I used separating wax inside the moulds, filled them with polyester resin, and warmed them in the oven to set them quicker (too cold today)

    Once well set, I easily flicked them out with a hobby knife. A few were a good shape, but they all need to be sanded to shape anyhow (oversized), Worked really well for a first experiment, and with more care, pretty accurate moulding of small parts could be done (vents etc -ie half and half)
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    And now for something slightly different. Finally managed to get a slightly warm day, and decided to do some painting and staining. Still have the bottom to do, and clear varnish the deck and transom. Screen needs finishing, as well as a few deck fittings and spray rails etc making, - also some interior stuff. Saw a late model Chris-Craft this colour and liked it.
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    Will hopefully look better with the deck varnished Rick, just stained and basic paint at the moment. More 'stuff' to go on yet.

    JB
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    19 days ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Stephen, thanks, - black's always a pain as it shows everything, but I'm not too worried, as it's a stand-off type model, (a long way of) and won't show too badly out on the water. Have to cut the black yet, and that will make a difference. Needs a break between the black and red deck I think,- some sort of moulding or a thin mahogany strake perhaps, but can't get out for 2 more weeks (lockdown) to have a look for anything.

    May be longer before I can go to the model shop (which will probably be short of stock anyhow, like last year) and look for some long strips of hardwood I can stain up. A lot of bits to go on yet, but no way of getting material of any sort at the moment, - not even glue. Luckily I stocked up on glue and balsa before this, so good for a while. I will need some Cyano gel which will be a problem. Varnishing the deck will keep me busy for a week (24hrs at least between coats (cold at the moment) - first sealer coat done this arvo. Might start making some moulds for the deck vents, - going to experiment with modelling clay (imprinted and waxed) for the female moulds.

    JB
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    20 days ago by stevedownunder ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi JB,
    Good days effort and great results. πŸ‘

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    20 days ago by Newby7 ( Vice Admiral)
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    So right JB it does look good.
    Rick
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