Well Doug. Thanks for the explanation (again) I will give it up just for you 😉. However this is the clearest explanation so far. With my simple logical brain I found it strange to hover over the the individual score to see I had answered (as of today) 21 questions and got 17 correct but my % score was 57%. I had completely forgotten that we actually get 30 questions set and get a not answered registered as a wrong answer.
Well Doug. Thanks for the explanation (again) I will give it up just for you 😉. However this is the clearest explanation so far. With my simple logical brain I found it strange to hover over the the individual score to see I had answered (as of today) 21 questions and got 17 correct but my % score was 57%. I had completely forgotten that we actually get 30 questions set and get a not answered registered as a wrong answer.
A dumb question today (12.4.25) for a dumb Comms engineer who spent nearly 40 years working on Naval Comms systems😁
PS for Alessandro: Naval in the English sense meaning the Military Naval Force.
Not general commercial marine shipping or pleasure boating.
But some regulations apply to both, e.g. GMDSS and SOLAS.
😎
A dumb question today (12.4.25) for a dumb Comms engineer who spent nearly 40 years working on Naval Comms systems😁
PS for Alessandro: Naval in the English sense meaning the Military Naval Force.
Not general commercial marine shipping or pleasure boating.
But some regulations apply to both, e.g. GMDSS and SOLAS.
😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
Hi Stephen,
Re "There will be a reason why you’re hovering around 50%"
Surely it's blindingly obvious (except to Simple apparently!🙄)
As I (only a dumb Comms engineer😉) understand the system-
Every day at at 00:00 Zulu time a new question is posted.
Until one answers it it is registered as a 'No answer' and hence one looses 1/30 points (=3.333r% rounded to 3%). If during the next 24 hours one answers correctly the 3% are regained. If wrong one remains at -3%. Not exactly rocket science!!
If on that day you answer correctly and-
* a wrong answer drops off one's 30 day tally then you go up a further 3%.
* a correct answer drops off your tally - nothing changes.
If on that day you answer incorrectly and-
* a wrong answer drops off your 30 day tally--> nothing changes
* a correct answer drops off your 30 day tally--> you drop 1 point = -3%.
The only part of your 'new equation' I'm not sure about is the algorithm for weighting when members have the same number of correct answers but have answered fewer questions!
Cheers, Doug😎
Hi Stephen,
Re "There will be a reason why you’re hovering around 50%"
Surely it's blindingly obvious (except to Simple apparently!🙄)
As I (only a dumb Comms engineer😉) understand the system-
Every day at at 00:00 Zulu time a new question is posted.
Until one answers it it is registered as a 'No answer' and hence one looses 1/30 points (=3.333r% rounded to 3%). If during the next 24 hours one answers correctly the 3% are regained. If wrong one remains at -3%. Not exactly rocket science!!
If on that day you answer correctly and-
* a wrong answer drops off one's 30 day tally then you go up a further 3%.
* a correct answer drops off your tally - nothing changes.
If on that day you answer incorrectly and-
* a wrong answer drops off your 30 day tally--> nothing changes
* a correct answer drops off your 30 day tally--> you drop 1 point = -3%.
The only part of your 'new equation' I'm not sure about is the algorithm for weighting when members have the same number of correct answers but have answered fewer questions!
Cheers, Doug😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
My dear Simple,
"Well blow me down Captain. That old 30 day thing again"👎👎👎
Sorry to have to say it, BUT. Give it a rest PLEASE!!
Why is it so difficult to understand the simple logic and arithmetic behind the score calculation?
It's been patiently explained to you many times that the Leader Board scores are calculated over 30 days. So no answer to any question = no points! Just like any school exam.
For each non answer (or wrong answer) in the last 30 day period you loose 1/30 points = 3.33r%. Rounded to 3% on the Leader Board.
If you give a correct answer, and a correct answer at the back end of the 30 days (31 days ago) drops out of the calculation nothing changes coz you still have the same ratio of correct answers to the 30 days.
Your %age score will ONLY go up when you give a right answer and a wrong answer or no answer (31 days ago) drops out of the calculation. --> +3%😉
Since your 'week off' was quite recent you will have to wait around three weeks until those 7 non-answers start to drop out of the calculation.
Now PLEASE PLEASE stop haranguing us with your unfounded complaints.
It's becoming very tedious.😠
I'm beginning to wonder if you are just trying to wind us up, pulling our collective chains.
It's getting very irritating.😠
Doug.
My dear Simple,
"Well blow me down Captain. That old 30 day thing again"👎👎👎
Sorry to have to say it, BUT. Give it a rest PLEASE!!
Why is it so difficult to understand the simple logic and arithmetic behind the score calculation?
It's been patiently explained to you many times that the Leader Board scores are calculated over 30 days. So no answer to any question = no points! Just like any school exam.
For each non answer (or wrong answer) in the last 30 day period you loose 1/30 points = 3.33r%. Rounded to 3% on the Leader Board.
If you give a correct answer, and a correct answer at the back end of the 30 days (31 days ago) drops out of the calculation nothing changes coz you still have the same ratio of correct answers to the 30 days.
Your %age score will ONLY go up when you give a right answer and a wrong answer or no answer (31 days ago) drops out of the calculation. --> +3%😉
Since your 'week off' was quite recent you will have to wait around three weeks until those 7 non-answers start to drop out of the calculation.
Now PLEASE PLEASE stop haranguing us with your unfounded complaints.
It's becoming very tedious.😠
I'm beginning to wonder if you are just trying to wind us up, pulling our collective chains.
It's getting very irritating.😠
Doug.
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
I shall have another go at the score board at some point. There will be a reason why you’re hovering around 50%… I think a lot of it is about publishing the numbers to the granular level, so you can all see how it’s calculated up at the top level. A bit like a ‘show detail’ option.
Stephen
I shall have another go at the score board at some point. There will be a reason why you’re hovering around 50%… I think a lot of it is about publishing the numbers to the granular level, so you can all see how it’s calculated up at the top level. A bit like a ‘show detail’ option.
Stephen
We may not be able to control the wind 🍃 but we can always adjust our sails ⛵ - MBW Admin
Well, here I go again (A song I think). Since my last rant about the scoring I have been oscillating between 50% and 53%. I have had every question correct since re-joining at 50%, so I would have assumed that the score would increase each day. But NO. It is stuck in some ground hog day thing. Thanks for todays question I have found out a lot about the Indian Ocean. I didn't realise it was geologically interesting.
Well, here I go again (A song I think). Since my last rant about the scoring I have been oscillating between 50% and 53%. I have had every question correct since re-joining at 50%, so I would have assumed that the score would increase each day. But NO. It is stuck in some ground hog day thing. Thanks for todays question I have found out a lot about the Indian Ocean. I didn't realise it was geologically interesting.
I am on a winning streak. Moving up. Do not know how long I will be having the correct answers. I look forward to these questions every day. Lots of fun😊👍
I am on a winning streak. Moving up. Do not know how long I will be having the correct answers. I look forward to these questions every day. Lots of fun😊👍
Alessandro what has logic got to do with A.I. and Q.o.D?
I am getting very leary about reading items on the 'net. After a while you get to realise the style and over emphasis on description that A.I. uses. I wonder how many different versions there are of this s/w?
What with the advertising on You Tube which I now use far less than I did, due to random advertising. A couple of days ago I watched, on my TV, a cable channel programme on a WW2 naval incident. When it came to the credits I switched off to watch the news. The next day on my laptop I was asked if I wanted to continue watching it!
Paying to stop the ads on you tube is a bit like the 1950s /60s when Pubs and the like were often forced to pay protection money from crooks, or else!
I have Virgin cable IT which is not bad as I just have one number to ring if there is a problem, but they took away my standby email address! It was an Ntlworld domain, and as I do not use a mobile phone I have not managed to find another email address as they all want a mobile phone number as a reference.
It is all becomming a right b****r!
Roy
Alessandro what has logic got to do with A.I. and Q.o.D?
I am getting very leary about reading items on the 'net. After a while you get to realise the style and over emphasis on description that A.I. uses. I wonder how many different versions there are of this s/w?
What with the advertising on You Tube which I now use far less than I did, due to random advertising. A couple of days ago I watched, on my TV, a cable channel programme on a WW2 naval incident. When it came to the credits I switched off to watch the news. The next day on my laptop I was asked if I wanted to continue watching it!
Paying to stop the ads on you tube is a bit like the 1950s /60s when Pubs and the like were often forced to pay protection money from crooks, or else!
I have Virgin cable IT which is not bad as I just have one number to ring if there is a problem, but they took away my standby email address! It was an Ntlworld domain, and as I do not use a mobile phone I have not managed to find another email address as they all want a mobile phone number as a reference.
With the questions it seems like there is a clear improvement, but how do you explain that the Czech Republic is first in the ranking (100%) despite there being no Czech member in the top 20.
How do you think this is possible?
With the questions it seems like there is a clear improvement, but how do you explain that the Czech Republic is first in the ranking (100%) despite there being no Czech member in the top 20.
How do you think this is possible?
Titanic has just brought a moment of joy for me this morning! I even got the answer right.
Should have realised it was 10th. April as we seem to be working through anniversaries. Perhaps the launch of Apollo 13 in 1970 for tomorrow?
Roy
Hi fireboat,
Finally a Titanic answer. There are hundreds more questions that Mr AI can come up with for Titanic for us.
I miss Titanic. 😁😁🤣🤣
Mind you Mary Rose gets missed.
My dad (R.I.P Pop) was a lover of that, I used to rib him of that, he was in the Navy and met my mum in the navy she was a Wren.
I used to say he was on the Mary Rose building crew.
Hi fireboat,
Finally a Titanic answer. There are hundreds more questions that Mr AI can come up with for Titanic for us.
I miss Titanic. 😁😁🤣🤣
Mind you Mary Rose gets missed.
My dad (R.I.P Pop) was a lover of that, I used to rib him of that, he was in the Navy and met my mum in the navy she was a Wren.
I used to say he was on the Mary Rose building crew.
Got a titanic question. I’ve been missing those…
Date and answer is right again though! I feel there may be more titanic related questions in the coming days 🤔
Stephen
Ref today's question; apart from having seen a docu on History Channel about Weserübung, I also had the pleasure of steaming passed the fortress last September, on the return leg of a Norwegian cruise on Mein Schiff 3.
Cheers, Doug😎
BTW: Operation Weserübung (Invasion of Norway) was the inspiration for me (at age 15) to build a 1/72 scale model of the destroyer HMS Hotspur. Scaled up from a 1/600 Airfix model after reading the Airfix resume of her action in the Battle of Narvik.
Seen in the attached pics on her maiden voyage at Radnor Park Lake, Folkestone, Kent,UK.
And after a major refit ca 1986, including RC upgrade, together with my 1/72 Type 1A U-Boot.
Scale 1/72 was chosen as I had dozens of 1/72 scale 8th Army and Afrika Korps soldiers, left over from my 'Backyard Battles', to use as crew members.😉
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Ref today's question; apart from having seen a docu on History Channel about Weserübung, I also had the pleasure of steaming passed the fortress last September, on the return leg of a Norwegian cruise on Mein Schiff 3.
Cheers, Doug😎
BTW: Operation Weserübung (Invasion of Norway) was the inspiration for me (at age 15) to build a 1/72 scale model of the destroyer HMS Hotspur. Scaled up from a 1/600 Airfix model after reading the Airfix resume of her action in the Battle of Narvik.
Seen in the attached pics on her maiden voyage at Radnor Park Lake, Folkestone, Kent,UK.
And after a major refit ca 1986, including RC upgrade, together with my 1/72 Type 1A U-Boot.
Scale 1/72 was chosen as I had dozens of 1/72 scale 8th Army and Afrika Korps soldiers, left over from my 'Backyard Battles', to use as crew members.😉
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
Nick,
Had to read that 3 times (3rd time out loud) 'til I twigged it!
Very good 😁😂🤣
Cheers, Doug😎
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Today is the day that in 1768 that the criminal smuggler, John Hancock, refused to allow his ship, Liberty (Haarumphh) to be searched by loyal and legal representatives of the British Crown. His actions encouraged the land speculators including George Washington to conduct terrorist acts against legitimate British Authority which had financed protection from the native and badly wronged indigenous inhabitants. Infamy, I tell you, Infamy.
One man's patriot is another's terrorist.
Today is the day that in 1768 that the criminal smuggler, John Hancock, refused to allow his ship, Liberty (Haarumphh) to be searched by loyal and legal representatives of the British Crown. His actions encouraged the land speculators including George Washington to conduct terrorist acts against legitimate British Authority which had financed protection from the native and badly wronged indigenous inhabitants. Infamy, I tell you, Infamy.
One man's patriot is another's terrorist.
Infamy. A Day of Infamy. That equation will go down as a day of Infamy.
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The first question I ask captain AI is if there is an anniversary for anything. Except now, I’ve asked it to be more accurate and also double check it.
If there’s a wrong anniversary or no anniversary, it’ll fall back to a general question based on a keyword.
Whichever route, several questions are generated, based on either keywords or event anniversary. Each question and answer is then double checked. If it passes the check, it gets added to the consideration list.
Then the best question from the consideration list is calculated out, and it’s that question which is published. If there was a keyword prompt for it, that keyword is also removed for the next 30 days.
Then a final fallback, if captain AI isn’t feeling like playing, is to recycle an old question. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen too often though!
Stephen
The first question I ask captain AI is if there is an anniversary for anything. Except now, I’ve asked it to be more accurate and also double check it.
If there’s a wrong anniversary or no anniversary, it’ll fall back to a general question based on a keyword.
Whichever route, several questions are generated, based on either keywords or event anniversary. Each question and answer is then double checked. If it passes the check, it gets added to the consideration list.
Then the best question from the consideration list is calculated out, and it’s that question which is published. If there was a keyword prompt for it, that keyword is also removed for the next 30 days.
Then a final fallback, if captain AI isn’t feeling like playing, is to recycle an old question. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen too often though!
Stephen
We may not be able to control the wind 🍃 but we can always adjust our sails ⛵ - MBW Admin
Aha! Joke, Sorry missed that☹️
I meant what I said though, the P90 IS a collectors item.
If you still have a working one you could get a decent price for it on one of the Collectors groups.
Cheers, Doug😎
https://www.x86-guide.net/en/cpu/Intel-Pentium-90-cpu-no305.html
Aha! Joke, Sorry missed that☹️
I meant what I said though, the P90 IS a collectors item.
If you still have a working one you could get a decent price for it on one of the Collectors groups.
Hi SimpleSailor,
Imagine you are sitting an exam at school or in college.
There are ten questions.
You answer one, correctly, and leave the rest unanswered.
What grade would you expect to get?
100% and pass with flying colours?
No! You'd flunk out with 10%. Zero for any question not answered.
My German friends have an expression for this.
Von nichts kommt nichts. -> From nothing comes nothing!
That's the way the cookie crumbles😉
Now is the time to stop whingeing and to start thinking😉
Cheers, Doug😎
PS Just saw your last post.
Your CPU is a 'Collectors Item' released March 7th 1994, 90MHz core frequency.
Time to get up to date?
Plus, you have to define all the variables before you can use any expression.
How did you do that?
Hi SimpleSailor,
Imagine you are sitting an exam at school or in college.
There are ten questions.
You answer one, correctly, and leave the rest unanswered.
What grade would you expect to get?
100% and pass with flying colours?
No! You'd flunk out with 10%. Zero for any question not answered.
My German friends have an expression for this.
Von nichts kommt nichts. -> From nothing comes nothing!
That's the way the cookie crumbles😉
Now is the time to stop whingeing and to start thinking😉
Cheers, Doug😎
PS Just saw your last post.
Your CPU is a 'Collectors Item' released March 7th 1994, 90MHz core frequency.
Time to get up to date?
Plus, you have to define all the variables before you can use any expression.
How did you do that?
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
I'm just happy that the question today was about an event that actually happened today (in history) and not a random other date...
So I'm taking that as a win!
@SimpleSailer, what would you expect to happen if you only answer 1 question in the last 30 days, and it was correct? To keep you at 100% all month? I think we'd end up with a leader board full of members only answering the questions they know for certain... tried to solve this tricky one a few times 🙈
I'm debating using the new US Tariff formula next 😂 apparently it makes things fair 😎
Update: got it sussed! Potential formula attached!
Stephen
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I'm just happy that the question today was about an event that actually happened today (in history) and not a random other date...
So I'm taking that as a win!
@SimpleSailer, what would you expect to happen if you only answer 1 question in the last 30 days, and it was correct? To keep you at 100% all month? I think we'd end up with a leader board full of members only answering the questions they know for certain... tried to solve this tricky one a few times 🙈
I'm debating using the new US Tariff formula next 😂 apparently it makes things fair 😎
Update: got it sussed! Potential formula attached!
Stephen
We may not be able to control the wind 🍃 but we can always adjust our sails ⛵ - MBW Admin
Hi. Sorry, but I am still going on about the scoring. As mentioned before. I came back after a week of not answering questions (No internet access) and I was at 50%, I got yesterdays correct and it went to 53%. I log in today and I am at 47%, I get todays correct and and now back to 50%. This should be done on the number of clicks you do, not days the number of rolling days.
Hi. Sorry, but I am still going on about the scoring. As mentioned before. I came back after a week of not answering questions (No internet access) and I was at 50%, I got yesterdays correct and it went to 53%. I log in today and I am at 47%, I get todays correct and and now back to 50%. This should be done on the number of clicks you do, not days the number of rolling days.
I think I remember seeing a snippet on TV saying that A.I. was the process of adding facts and opinions etc. Well I have had the last 5 days correct and still I have 21 out of 29 just as it was 5 days ago. Does this mean that calculating numbers is no longer factual? Just a matter of opinion?
I watched a video of people stopped in the street and asked a very simple arithmetic question, like what is 33 +77, nobody got it right several gave a (wrong) estimate!
I suppose we are self selecting group where measuring and numbers are the cornerstone of the hobby. But at that level virtually everyone on this forum could answer correctly this level of question on any subject.
No wonder some politicians can make a career of smiling and mendacious rhetoric at the same time. They have sprung up all over the world.
Good old A.I.!!!!!!!
Roy
I think I remember seeing a snippet on TV saying that A.I. was the process of adding facts and opinions etc. Well I have had the last 5 days correct and still I have 21 out of 29 just as it was 5 days ago. Does this mean that calculating numbers is no longer factual? Just a matter of opinion?
I watched a video of people stopped in the street and asked a very simple arithmetic question, like what is 33 +77, nobody got it right several gave a (wrong) estimate!
I suppose we are self selecting group where measuring and numbers are the cornerstone of the hobby. But at that level virtually everyone on this forum could answer correctly this level of question on any subject.
No wonder some politicians can make a career of smiling and mendacious rhetoric at the same time. They have sprung up all over the world.
Good old A.I.!!!!!!!
I would assume that the reason you lose percentage when absent is so that you do not get an advantage by answering only the questions you know the answers to. This might keep somebody on 100% having only answered one question per 30 days.
I would assume that the reason you lose percentage when absent is so that you do not get an advantage by answering only the questions you know the answers to. This might keep somebody on 100% having only answered one question per 30 days.
I cannot promise to finish one project before starting another. I know, I tried.
Just as I predicted. I have been away for a week and have not been able to get on site. Now because I have not answered a weeks worth of questions I am at 50%. Why should I be penalised for not answering? Surely it should freeze if no answer is given?
Just as I predicted. I have been away for a week and have not been able to get on site. Now because I have not answered a weeks worth of questions I am at 50%. Why should I be penalised for not answering? Surely it should freeze if no answer is given?
Can't wait to see how that works out Stephen👍🤞
Just a thunk -
Does the 3rd algorithm include a digital kick up the proverbial if he comes up with another repeat/recycled question: i.e. one which leads to a correct answer or duff gen we have had before?😁
Hope house move and arm healing are going well🤞
Cheers, Doug😎
Can't wait to see how that works out Stephen👍🤞
Just a thunk -
Does the 3rd algorithm include a digital kick up the proverbial if he comes up with another repeat/recycled question: i.e. one which leads to a correct answer or duff gen we have had before?😁
Hope house move and arm healing are going well🤞
Cheers, Doug😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
Captain AI has been told off and had a slight re-wiring! Let's see what tomorrow brings.
I decided to apply some multi-step logic with multiple different algorithms checking each others homework. There's also a 'temperature' parameter which hopefully is adjusted to give more fact than fiction. Then after generating several potential new questions of the day, a third algorithm picks the most interesting one.
Let's just say, Captain AI is being monitored very closely from tomorrow!
Stephen
Captain AI has been told off and had a slight re-wiring! Let's see what tomorrow brings.
I decided to apply some multi-step logic with multiple different algorithms checking each others homework. There's also a 'temperature' parameter which hopefully is adjusted to give more fact than fiction. Then after generating several potential new questions of the day, a third algorithm picks the most interesting one.
Let's just say, Captain AI is being monitored very closely from tomorrow!
Stephen
We may not be able to control the wind 🍃 but we can always adjust our sails ⛵ - MBW Admin
