Hi Commodore never a day goes pass...... The Australian submarine service is of everyday conversation in our house.
Roy

What an easy question, everyone knows this and thinks about it everyday. UGH!
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Well after some research and more deciphering of what the Ai was actually trying to ask I got it right. so my score has gone up. On the question of scoring I had not realised that if you didn't answer a question you were classed as getting it wrong and 3% was deducted. The particular question was the one where the Ai got it completely wrong so I didn't answer. Ho ho, life goes on 😊

Another 'None of the above question.'🙄
It wasn't E11 but B11, and on 14th December 1914 not March 1915.
B11 torpedoed the Ottoman battleship Mesûdiye.
Again AI has got his calendar in a twist. But still fooled me into going for E11☹️RATS😠
HMAS AE2 first entered the strait on 24th April 1915.
E11 on 18th May.
B and C we can discount😉

Another shout out for History channel😀
Ciao, Doug😎

Oops got this wrong, hopefully will do better With the next one🤔

Hi all testing your memories!!!!

Recently someone enquired after a set of plans for the PBM tug boat kit Alfred. Maybe not on this site etc, possibly Model Boats magazine. As new custodian of the club inherited plans I have found a good quality set.

If this trips anyones memory please let me know.

I have lots of plans many from magazines some with articles, any reqests?

Regards
Roy

Hi Roy, I also believe that the AI ​​has sunk into the Arctic Ocean.
It should follow the rules that Doug said, but the frequent exceptions that you, me and many others have found make me doubt it.
It still has a lot to improve, but I am confident in the very near future.

I am on a roll as well I have been allowed up to 50% although I do not remember getting wrong answers more than once or so in the last fortnight. But having got today right I have less right answers than yesterday.

I wonder if AI knows the difference between positive and negative numbers?
Roy

Ham or cheese Ron?😋😋
Don't forget the pickles😁

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I must be on a roll, another good guess. Just lucky😊🤪

Hey Boatshed, you're on the Board. #20 57%. Yaaaaay😀
Welcome aboard👍Hang in there Shipmate.

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A BIG HOORAH for NatGeo and History channel😀
BTW It was 13th June not March🙄
What the heck calendar is our Awesomely Incompetent using??!!

Cheers All, Doug😎
Footnote. I know there was a Norwegian exploration ship called Fram.
But to me FRAM will forever mean ' Fleet Rehabilitation and Modernization' having happily worked on several such programs. 😉
More Trivia! USS Jeanette actually started life as a Royal Navy gunboat, HMS Pandora.
DON'T OPEN THAT HATCH!!!!! OH S***ugar😮

That's way better It's 9.56 A.M here in Canada & the question for 2025-03-12 is now posted & I can now answer it because I do most of my computer stuff in the morning Thanks P/S I've deleted all my e-mails that read answer todays question until tomorrow morning.

Hi Doug, Mums are the best!
Roy

I had just joined the Fire Service and was sent to work on the beaches for two weeks before I did my basic training we travelled down on the day the RAF bombed it !😁

I remember the RAF bombing the wreck to try and break it up and burn off the remaining oil. The RAF used Hawker Hunters and the Fleet Air Arm used Buccaneers...

Finally a correct answer, lucky quess. At least I moved up to Warrant Officer😊🇺🇸

re Alessanndro post I do not use a mobile phone, yes I am the last of the dinosaurs!
Roy

18th March🙄
(My Mum's birthday BTW. RIP Mum. She would have made 100 next week and received a Telegram/card from the Queen/King which she so dearly wanted. She missed it by three years.)

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Tomorrow’s question
What Royal Navy 🛳️ ship sank in Sicily on March 12th?
Titanic?

Hi roy I had same problem a while back but been OK since .
Philuk👍

Hi Roy, just a hypothesis: Is it possible that he rubs the screen of the phone inadvertently, maybe when it is in his pocket?
However, I think that the system may still have many problems.

3rd. time in a row that I have been told I have already answered it!
Roy

It's March 11 2025 & it's 8:57 A.M. in Hamilton Ontario Canada It's March 11 2025 & it's 12:54 P.M. in England . So I answer the question at around 7:15 P.M. March 11 2025 & that's why Canadians aren't answering the question at the proper time for all the Model Boat Website viewers . So what time is best to go on my P.C. and answer the question so my score will be made properly Thanks & have a great lunch .

Please stop this I feel like I'm being BULLIED ever day I will answer the Question if I feel like it .I do get tired of deleting E-Mails Thanks have a good day.

Right on SimpleSailor👍
Once again AI only got it partially right.
Right ship, wrong date, wrong islands.🙄

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https://www.priaulxlibrary.co.uk/articles/article/december-23-1803-loss-grappler-and-sufferings-its-captain-and-crew

Well I got so fed up that I cheated it did me no good as could not find a thing so in the end I guessed, once again 1864 really is that relevant to model boat building at this rate I might just give up . Bit of a joke
Philuk👍

Well I got that one right. Just by deduction as the answer Ai gives is not an exact one. According to the Royal Navy Loss List. Gunboat no 28 (HMS Grappler) was grounded at Lles de Chose France, (I actually think it was Iles Chausey, as there was a French fort there) captured and burnt by the French. Registered lost 30/12/1803

For those interested in Royal Navy history this link might be useful, particularly if the Ai could read it .

https://www.thisismast.org/assets/downloads/rn-loss-list-2023-02-27.pdf

I think this is the end for me!

One search has Grappler as non-existent!

Roy

My stab in the dark missed by a mile. I refuse to cheat by searching the internet for the correct answer - therefore most of my answers are guesswork.

I picked the wrong answer and got it right!

11th March 2025.
Answer: None of the above!
Which 'wrong / AI correct' answer you choose will be pure Pot Luck!🙄
Bon chance mes amis🤞
Doug😎

Chose a wrong answer, maybe better tomorrow🤔👍

Hi Doug,
That was as clear as MUD, as I have already said I was always the thick one at school and in the corner with the dunces hat on😂.
The bit that was clear is that come midnight my score will drop AGAIN.
But anyway I can live with that I will just keep trying to answer the questions correctly and try getting higher % than I am.
Or it's
Down down deeper and down.
Down down deeper and down

Hi Doug, my doubt was not related to the calculation of personal percentages (which is quite easy and that you explained well) but on those for nations.
Could you explain the nation mechanism equally well?

In the end, honestly, I am not very interested in the personal score and I refuse to take certain questions into consideration for various reasons (like the one about the phone, in that case out of respect for the memory of Antonio Meucci) even if I know that this means a wrong question and a drop in percentage.

Roy.
Re "For the members mentioned above, are the scores / numbers played updated? Mine have been like that since the start. Perhaps only part of the system is working, so much for automation!"

Roy, the short answer is YES!
For everyone; at midnight GMT/ZULU.
Then, for individual members, WHEN they answer the new question (right or wrong)😉
See also my post #3494 below.

Why is it so difficult for folks to get their heads round this simple arithmetic, not even math!
For me math began with calculus. Differentiation was OK, I struggled with integration though🤔
Applied mathematics and physics were my strong points🤗 Pure maths my weak point. Couldn't see the use for it back then😔
Probably why I became an engineer (specialism radio communications) and not an astrophysicist or astronaut😁
"Fly me to the moon and let me play among the stars,
Let me see what spring is like on Jupiter and Mars. In other words ..."
Wäre so schön gewesen. Vielleicht! 😁
Cheers, Doug😎

Hi Boatshed.
Re "HOW THE HELL is this scoring working.
I bet my score will go down again tonight for NO reason.🙈🙉🙊🤕. "
Your post # 3473.
I'll try once again to clarify this. It's not astrophysics and you don't need to be an Einstein or Heisenberg to get your head round it😉
As mentioned in my post # 3493 below.
Since Stephen's last rehash of QotD the leader board 30 day scores are calculated as
(answers correct/30days)%. NO LONGER (ANSWERS CORRECT/QUESTIONS PLAYED)%.
Therefore a question not answered now counts as a wrong answer.☹️

"I bet my score will go down again tonight for NO reason."
Boatshed, it sure will! But you are NOT alone; EVERYONE'S SCORE WILL GO DOWN AT MIDNIGHT GMT (ZULU TIME for the mariners & soldiers amongst us) for the good reason I just explained.
At that time a new question appears and until you answer it correctly it counts as a wrong answer for you and your score goes down by ~3%. The 3% is a result of the rounding that Stephen uses.
Example for you BS-
#20 on the Leader board is currently Alessandro with 63%. 19 correct. 21 played. --> (19/30)% =63.333r%. Rounded -->63%. QED.
You are not on the board so you must have less than 63%.☹️
Let's be generous and say you have 60%. So you must have answered 18 questions correctly over the last 30 days. 18/30=60%. No rounding needed!😁
At midnight GMT the question changes and your answer from 31 days ago drops out of the calculation so you then have (17answers/30days)% --> 56.666%. Rounded -->57%.
That's where the nightly 3% drop comes from.

IF you then answer the new question correctly, and a correct answer from 31 days ago drops out of the calc, you will again have 18/30 --> 60% again😀
If you get it wrong you will remain at 17/30 -->57%.
If your answer 31 days ago, which has now dropped out of the calc, was wrong and your new answer is right then you should have 19/30 --> 63% when rounded.

We are ALL going round on this carousel and the only way our scores can climb is if we always get the new question right and our past wrong answers drop out of the calc because they are no longer within the 30 day window. This can take a while, depending on when they occurred within the 30 days😉

All clear? Tutto chiaro? Alles klar Herr Commissar?
Doug😎
PS, due to the considerations outlined above I have been bouncing round a loop of 83, 80,77,80,83% for days. The trick is to guess what the AI means is correct for an obviously nonsense 'None of the above question'. 😉 I.e. outwitting the AI is the key. Bon chance mes amis🤞

Well this explains why I never found an answer to that one! Kept going round and round with the overall question, then the history of each submarine in the question and thought I was missing something. I was - an answer to the bogus question.

Just picked the name I have never heard of
Philuk👍

For the members mentioned above, are the scores / numbers played updated? Mine have been like that since the start. Perhaps only part of the system is working, so much for automation!

I am not going into anything A.I. driven unless it is on rails. Although I fly long distance there are crew watching the dials so feel that A.I. can't get a crafty one in.
Saying someone is wrong is like a red rag to a bull, then saying black is white into the bargain with no means of redress, frustrating .

It is like when you vote in a general election it is always the Government that gets in!

I keep thinking of the children's programme Trumpton when a certain face appears on TV. I think I know where his ideas come from now!

Roy

Pure luck on my part today. Took a stab in the dark and got it right through the heart!

It’s a good job that three of today’s answers can be eliminated fairly safely leaving only one. Never heard of that one.

QotD 10th March 2025.
Right ship👍, wrong date👎, wrong place👎🙄
30th May 1906, Lundy island.
Which to the best of my knowledge is still in the Bristol Channel north of Devon and not the Scilly Isles.

Doug😎

Bravo DG👍
Electra (H27) was indeed an E class destroyer, sunk 27th Feb 1942 in the Battle of Java Sea. Not by scuttling but by gunfire from IJN ships, one cruiser and two destroyers, while trying to protect HMS Exeter. She gave as good as she got and went down fighting with her Ensign flying.
Cheers, Doug😎

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Electra_(H27)#Battle_of_the_Java_Sea_and_loss

Finally got one correct, this was just a lucky quess😊👍

This is crazy. No British submarines were scuttled near Java as far as I can ascertain. I’m stopping doing this game.

Quite right ekoral and Nick👍
The correct answer today is 'None of the Above'.
There never was a T class sub named Talbot.
The only RN ship scuttled during the Second Battle of the Java sea was an E class destroyer HMS Encounter. She was badly damaged while trying to protect HMS Exeter (of River Plate fame) which had been immobilised by a hit in the boiler rooms. See report below.
Oh, and it was on 1st March not the 9th.🙄

Nick,
I can vouch for your comment.
During my first of several visits to Malta I could see Manoel Island from my hotel room window.
It's in a natural harbour just north of the Grand Harbour. It has also featured in various documentaries, including Lost Places.

Our AI has gone senile and should be sent to a Care Home.
Cheers All, Doug😎


HMS Encounter (H10) from uncle Wiki.
"Second Battle of the Java Sea
Main article: Second Battle of the Java Sea

The following day, after making temporary repairs and refuelling, Exeter, Encounter and the American destroyer Pope were ordered to sail to Colombo, via the Sunda Strait. They departed on the evening of 28 February, but were intercepted by the Japanese heavy cruisers Nachi, Haguro, Myōkō and Ashigara and the destroyers Akebono, Inazuma, Yamakaze and Kawakaze on the morning of 1 March.[33] About 08:00, the British ships spotted two of the Japanese cruisers, one of which launched its spotting floatplanes. Two others were seen closing in, and both launched their aircraft before opening fire at about 09:30.[34] The Allied ships laid smoke and turned away to the east with the Japanese to their north and south.[35] Exeter was able to reach a speed of 26 knots (48 km/h; 30 mph)[36] before the first hit on her again detonated in a boiler room and knocked out all power around 11:20. Encounter turned back to lay a smoke screen to protect the immobilised cruiser, and aid survivors, but she was soon immobilised herself by shell hits and splinters and set on fire.[37] Lieutenant Commander Eric Morgan, the destroyer's captain, ordered the ship scuttled to prevent her capture by the Japanese. She capsized and sank about 12:10.[38] Pope initially escaped this melee, only to be sunk about two hours later as well.[39]

Eight of the ship's company were killed and the remaining 149 became prisoners of war[40] when they were rescued the following day, along with the remaining survivors from Exeter that were still in the water, by the Japanese destroyer Ikazuchi. The Encounter survivors had been adrift for some 20 hours, in rafts and lifejackets or clinging to floats, many coated in oil and unable to see. Among the rescued was Lieutenant (later Sir) Sam Falle, an officer aboard Encounter, who would go on to become a British diplomat.[41] This humanitarian decision by Lieutenant Commander Shunsaku Kudō placed Ikazuchi at risk of submarine attack, and interfered with her fighting ability due to the sheer numbers of rescued sailors. The action was later the subject of a book[42] and a TV special.[43][44] 38 of the ship's crew subsequently died in captivity.

The wreck was originally discovered on 21 February 2007, lying at a depth of 60–61 metres (197–200 ft).[45] During an expedition to survey the site in 2016, it was found to have been almost completely destroyed by illegal salvage operations.[46][47] "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Encounter_(H10)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Exeter_(68)#Second_Battle_of_the_Java_Sea

I thought it was HMS Exeter but that wasn't an option!

There is no Royal Submarine HMS Talbot that is scuttled.

Hii SS A.i. thinks it was the Med' naval base!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think it is time to scuttle the A.I. pull the plug, nice idea but really so much controversy over the daft answers.

It has put me off any Medical diagnosis offered by computer. I did have a Q & A with a medical A.I. a few years ago. I had and still have a partially numb finger, pinky on left hand. Gets left out of most things anyway.

Are you in pain?
No!
How much pain on a scale 1-10?
0.

Where does it hurt?

I gave up!
I wanted some exercises and found them separately on a Physical Therapy site.

Needless to say the exercises were well meaning but ineffective, perhaps they found them on another A.I. site.
Roy