It must all be in the wording, I was looking for The Nuestra Senora de Atocha but that had only $40m in gold and silver, but was the World's most valuable wreck, as it was carrying Columbian emeralds among others.
It must all be in the wording, I was looking for The Nuestra Senora de Atocha but that had only $40m in gold and silver, but was the World's most valuable wreck, as it was carrying Columbian emeralds among others.
Hello Isaac, it is normally achnowledged that history is written by the winners. So probably a distorted version of the truth anyway but justifying all measures taken. Other less savoury things that happened are swept under the carpet.
If allowed, the truth emerges a couple of generations later. The TV in the UK seems, mainly on cable etc to be concerned with the second world war, then the fiction writers stick in a plot, that distorts some facts to accomodate the plot and another 'truth or fact' emerges.
Check out the Battle of Midway through its path from fiction to fact, also the enigma code story. The facts are still distorted here, much is given to Bletchley Park for its work. Yet the truth lies beyond with Polish and other nationals having an input. One American film will have you believing it was all solved with their Navy capturing a U-boat etc.
The underlying problem already suggested is which 'truth' do new generations remember, the text book or the film?
Then the new 'science' of Political science also known as fake news is there to feed on facts and distort meanings. All set up to confuse the other side.
Life ain't easy, you have to have your wits about you when it comes to knowing what is actually happening. Much in the UK anyway has more than one verification source to authenticate 'the news'.
The social media channels are the source of many peoples news and information and when 'set up' interviews and apparently unorchestrated confrontations are both reported and filmed it is easy to believe what you see.
Roy
Hello Isaac, it is normally achnowledged that history is written by the winners. So probably a distorted version of the truth anyway but justifying all measures taken. Other less savoury things that happened are swept under the carpet.
If allowed, the truth emerges a couple of generations later. The TV in the UK seems, mainly on cable etc to be concerned with the second world war, then the fiction writers stick in a plot, that distorts some facts to accomodate the plot and another 'truth or fact' emerges.
Check out the Battle of Midway through its path from fiction to fact, also the enigma code story. The facts are still distorted here, much is given to Bletchley Park for its work. Yet the truth lies beyond with Polish and other nationals having an input. One American film will have you believing it was all solved with their Navy capturing a U-boat etc.
The underlying problem already suggested is which 'truth' do new generations remember, the text book or the film?
Then the new 'science' of Political science also known as fake news is there to feed on facts and distort meanings. All set up to confuse the other side.
Life ain't easy, you have to have your wits about you when it comes to knowing what is actually happening. Much in the UK anyway has more than one verification source to authenticate 'the news'.
The social media channels are the source of many peoples news and information and when 'set up' interviews and apparently unorchestrated confrontations are both reported and filmed it is easy to believe what you see.
I would think that the logic would be, first there would be trade and then someone would try to subvert the trade by force. (Navy 1) Then the trading country would arm themselves / create protection ships, (Navy 2).
Pirates spring to mind but they hardly constitute a navy.
Is a Navy a protection force?
Then there is the question of invasion by sea.
Roy
I would think that the logic would be, first there would be trade and then someone would try to subvert the trade by force. (Navy 1) Then the trading country would arm themselves / create protection ships, (Navy 2).
Pirates spring to mind but they hardly constitute a navy.
Is a Navy a protection force?
Then there is the question of invasion by sea.
Ancient Egyptian navy
While no one can accurately state who is the first ( especially since we are not versed in ancient Asian nor America's histories ), the Egyptians had a vast and known civilization and utilized boats early on for transportation of man and material around.
Anyhow, as I said, some of those questions we get are so prone to interpretations or are highly depended on the source.
Isaac
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_navy
While no one can accurately state who is the first ( especially since we are not versed in ancient Asian nor America's histories ), the Egyptians had a vast and known civilization and utilized boats early on for transportation of man and material around.
Anyhow, as I said, some of those questions we get are so prone to interpretations or are highly depended on the source.
As usual, another wrong historical answer. Phoenicians were not the first users of a Navy, but what do I know! History is written by whomever wants to write it and even then everyone will say it is "fake news" even when it is fresh and in your face.
Oh well, "who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes!!!!!! "
🤣🤣🤣
Isaac
As usual, another wrong historical answer. Phoenicians were not the first users of a Navy, but what do I know! History is written by whomever wants to write it and even then everyone will say it is "fake news" even when it is fresh and in your face.
Oh well, "who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes!!!!!! "
🤣🤣🤣
Well another interesting answer. I was going to tick Phoenicians but couldn't find anything that would convince me they started the first organised navy. They were a great maritime force but not a united fighting force. However the Romans did organise a navy because they could see it would help conquer the world as it was then. As they say "You live and learn" 😀
Well another interesting answer. I was going to tick Phoenicians but couldn't find anything that would convince me they started the first organised navy. They were a great maritime force but not a united fighting force. However the Romans did organise a navy because they could see it would help conquer the world as it was then. As they say "You live and learn" 😀
The Egyptians are known to have had a navy before 1200 BC.
The old kingdom used ships for military purposes (2575 - 2130) including organised defence of the kingdom.
The Egyptians are known to have had a navy before 1200 BC.
The old kingdom used ships for military purposes (2575 - 2130) including organised defence of the kingdom.
Hi Com-H now that is a hard, quite out of the blue a name like that.
Such are the mysteries of life. The AI only seems to sort out a question, not realising the answers should be also linked in time or possibility or even confused with a similar event.
Now take the Titanic, if we were into Just3words it could be Big, ice, sink.
Of course when stock answers are called upon Titanic, Bismark and Lusitania then there is a hidden hint there, never mind the question.
So far AI seems to aid fake news and perhaps fake questions are yet to be launched on us? When you get answers with ski as the suffix then Putin your money on the answer is a no-go!
Non-fake news! I am getting better by the day despite the rain continuous now for 30 hours. Exercise is the key, and a build up of food and get the muscles aching with effort. I have lost a stone in weight (6+kilograms) since I arrived a month ago.
I am now doing a Captain Tom, what a lovely man he was, and adopting his motto of 'tomorrow will be a good day'! I have measured out a lap of one tenth of a mile and counting the laps, 20 so far. Had to use a walking stick to start with but will try without soon. It is the walk out onto a 4 foot wide jetty that needs a bit of balance and that was dodgy before anyway.
Best regards😀😀😀
Roy
Hi Com-H now that is a hard, quite out of the blue a name like that.
Such are the mysteries of life. The AI only seems to sort out a question, not realising the answers should be also linked in time or possibility or even confused with a similar event.
Now take the Titanic, if we were into Just3words it could be Big, ice, sink.
Of course when stock answers are called upon Titanic, Bismark and Lusitania then there is a hidden hint there, never mind the question.
So far AI seems to aid fake news and perhaps fake questions are yet to be launched on us? When you get answers with ski as the suffix then Putin your money on the answer is a no-go!
Non-fake news! I am getting better by the day despite the rain continuous now for 30 hours. Exercise is the key, and a build up of food and get the muscles aching with effort. I have lost a stone in weight (6+kilograms) since I arrived a month ago.
I am now doing a Captain Tom, what a lovely man he was, and adopting his motto of 'tomorrow will be a good day'! I have measured out a lap of one tenth of a mile and counting the laps, 20 so far. Had to use a walking stick to start with but will try without soon. It is the walk out onto a 4 foot wide jetty that needs a bit of balance and that was dodgy before anyway.
Best regards😀😀😀
Roy
Happy eastern to all modelboatbuilders all over the world who are on this fantastic forum and special thoughts to those on our forum who are not in the best health at the moment and those who lost loving people the last days
We all think of them
Happy eastern to all modelboatbuilders all over the world who are on this fantastic forum and special thoughts to those on our forum who are not in the best health at the moment and those who lost loving people the last days
We all think of them
Hi Roy you are more than welcome, good luck with your meds, good job you are staying with family get your strength back it's a long flight home sure your family are glad to have you there😁👍
Philuk👍
Hi Roy you are more than welcome, good luck with your meds, good job you are staying with family get your strength back it's a long flight home sure your family are glad to have you there😁👍
Philuk👍
Hi PhilH, no excuses just a bit b*****d. Reducing on pain killers and off the big one and see how the morning goes. It is bed time here! I am sleeping for 8-10 hours not my normal 6. and I am trying to keep awake!
Have rescheduled my return journey for a fortnight later. If you try and delay a week the price is enormous, but a further week and it is as you would expect. Price and demand rules on the airways.
I usually book a flexi-ticket on the return legs as cost of changing is zilch and means I can extend without problems, so 7 weeks this time but 10 days in hospital takes it back a bit.
Just as well it is family and no such thing as over staying your welcome!
Again thanks for the support.
Roy
Hi PhilH, no excuses just a bit b*****d. Reducing on pain killers and off the big one and see how the morning goes. It is bed time here! I am sleeping for 8-10 hours not my normal 6. and I am trying to keep awake!
Have rescheduled my return journey for a fortnight later. If you try and delay a week the price is enormous, but a further week and it is as you would expect. Price and demand rules on the airways.
I usually book a flexi-ticket on the return legs as cost of changing is zilch and means I can extend without problems, so 7 weeks this time but 10 days in hospital takes it back a bit.
Just as well it is family and no such thing as over staying your welcome!
Hiya,Roy,
So sorry to hear of your health problems. I hope you will soon be back to 100% health and back to modelling. At least you were abroad where your son lives, so that must be a great comfort to you all. Take care. Very best wishes.
Hiya,Roy,
So sorry to hear of your health problems. I hope you will soon be back to 100% health and back to modelling. At least you were abroad where your son lives, so that must be a great comfort to you all. Take care. Very best wishes.
I'm not very good at geography so can someone please explain how a ship sinks around UK but ends up in US? Did they move it there?
Oh, and happy Easter everyone
Thank you all so much for your comforting remarks. I am a bit woozy, probably still got some anaesthetic in circulation. You really do not know what is going to happen next! I am in a very nice place and can layout on a day bed when tired and watch the view, all boats! A bit of sun helps too so can't complain, got to get the paperwark done now and start an insurance claim, not that it will return much. Staying on a bit longer so must look on the bright side!
Cheers all
Roy
Thank you all so much for your comforting remarks. I am a bit woozy, probably still got some anaesthetic in circulation. You really do not know what is going to happen next! I am in a very nice place and can layout on a day bed when tired and watch the view, all boats! A bit of sun helps too so can't complain, got to get the paperwark done now and start an insurance claim, not that it will return much. Staying on a bit longer so must look on the bright side!
Cheers all
Roy
Roy, hope you’re feeling better soon. I had a stroke myself about 13 years ago, my grandmother had mini strokes. Take care of yourself and rest, we’ll be here for you.
Cash
Roy, hope you’re feeling better soon. I had a stroke myself about 13 years ago, my grandmother had mini strokes. Take care of yourself and rest, we’ll be here for you.
Cash
Speedy recovery Roy, get well soon. Roger.
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