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    ๐ŸŽฌ HARTLEY FLARELINE, MOTOR MODS
    1 month ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Finally got a good day to try the new brushless motor. Boat goes 100% better now (if a bit noisier) 3s 25c 2200mAh liPo got a bit too hot, so probably need to up the C rate to 40 to keep it cooler (maybe install a fan as it's closed under the seat) It's pushing a 6lb boat with a 26mm jet with a 3000kV brushless so it has an excuse to get hot, (only got down to 3.7V/cell after that run, so not too bad). Runs with a more scale look now which is what I wanted. Took a bit of experimenting, but got there in the end. Thermostatic cooling fans for the motor worked well, and within 10 mins the motor was cool. Only used around 2/3 throttle so as not to stress the coupling too much (you can hear it protest a few times, - silicone tube slips slightly making it squeal)- automatic rev limiter๐Ÿ˜

    Sorry, vid is blurry again โ˜น๏ธ (original's fine -HD) but something happens when it goes through my movie editor then to YT. Keep procrastinating about getting a better camera (or maybe it's just the editor. - More experimenting, this is getting tedious๐Ÿ˜
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    1 month ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Hi Ron, haven't spent a huge amount due to the fact that all the electrical bits are very cheap ($1 ea for a voltage reg, $8-12 for a pump, $30 ea for a motor (bought 2 as the first was not fast enough) and jet unit, $15 for the ESC, a few JST plugs and wire, $3 smoke pen, few lengths of silicone tube etc, plus balsa and f/glass, -probably not a lot more than NZ $200. A lot of things you buy of course like resin and paint, usually have to be bought in bigger quantities than you would use on one model, and may be used on other projects, so it's hard to work out an exact cost. I think the hull was the most expensive part, due to the cost of balsa and resin.

    Mostly a lot of time, (hate to work out the labour cost on any model at going rates,- probably in the thousands)!

    JB
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    1 month ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Don't get too hopeful Graham, check out the latest bit of wire in the blog๐Ÿ˜‚

    JB
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    1 month ago by Graham93 ( Captain)
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    JB,

    Looks like you finally have it sorted ๐Ÿ‘ You are going to have to find something new to work on now ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    1 month ago by Ron ( Captain)
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    How much $ you have invested in this one?
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    ๐ŸŽฌ HARTLEY FLARELINE, JET. MOTOR COOLING MODS
    1 month ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Fitted a new bottom skin fitting for the water pump pickup(air/water/exhaust smoke system) - removing the pickup from the jet, as flow stopped when the jet stopped. Fitted a new transom skin fitting (RH side transom) for the ESC cooler exit, and took the water from the jet pickup for the ESC cooler. Everything seems to work well now, with the ESC water flow increasing with throttle. Now for a test on a decent day, (has to start with the rain and wind now, doesn't it?โ˜น๏ธ)

    Set-up pics in blog,
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    ๐ŸŽฌ HARTLEY FLARELINE JET, MOTOR MODS
    1 month ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Set the new Surpass 3000KV 36 diam finned in-runner up in the boat, and did a tank test. Lots more power than the HV brushed 1200kv 550, but with higher idle. Re-did the reinforced silicone coupling and fitted a small collar to the inner end of the motor shaft to hold the tube from moving forward against the motor, as with the extra torque of the in-runner, it was trying to twist the tube off the shafts. Seems to be hanging in there static which is a promising sign. Once running, the load will come off which should help.

    Runs full at around 4A and the battery holds at around 3.8v/ cell )alarm is set at 3.6 for safety, (as a sort of rev limiter) performance should improve a bit now. Have to wait till tomorrow as the restrictions end at 6am Sunday, (then have to hope for good weather for the test) The prop in the jet is a 28mm 3 blade racing prop which I modified to fit. Don't think I'm going to get much more out of the jet unit without it exploding๐Ÿ˜, (it's only plastic I think, not GRP), - might have to buy a back-up and fit it with better quality bearings etc. If the jet was in the usual 'plastic' 24" toys it would be a rocket, but it's pushing 6lbs which is a challenge๐Ÿ˜€

    Note the police chase outside in the background๐Ÿ˜- always action around here, lots of hoons in cars๐Ÿ˜
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    1 month ago by davidhgreatbatch ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    My lockdown project MV Overchurch (Mersey Ferry) 1/48 scale scratch built, radio controlled. Still a bit of work needed to finish her
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    1 month ago by Ianh ( Commander)
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    Now it's the wait of Lockdown before you hit the water.
    Looks like a neat project
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    1 month ago by Nerys ( Admiral)
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    Lockdown project or not, you have built a very nice model and I look forward to seeing her afloat, if ever they let us sail again!.

    Nerys
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    ๐ŸŽฌ HARTLEY FLARELINE, THERMAL FAN SWITCH
    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    I trial fitted a thermal switch to the fans in the dummy motor, which is mounted on the 540 motor. It starts the dual fans at 30deg C and switches off at around 20deg C. Bit hard to hear in the vid (plus the YT transfer removed the middle of the vid, -there was a gap before I put the soldering iron on again,- and at the end don't know why it does this, - doesn't like the format I think๐Ÿ˜ ) Anyhoo, not doing it 3 times! (clipped the end 10 secs off the previous try as well๐Ÿ˜ )

    Fan switch is powered at 8v via a small voltage reg from the main battery (3s 2200 20c) and works pretty well. All fully hortomatic like๐Ÿ˜Š
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    More changes, (not again you say๐Ÿ˜) this time the original nozzle was re fitted, as I found that the very clever improvement I made, (a flasher, smaller, better fitting brass one), wasn't so clever after all (can't be brilliant all the time๐Ÿ˜) and was restricting the flow. The performance was quite a bit better today (still not startling) and it seems obvious now that MORE POWER will be the next step (have a higher KV, 35 sized brushless coming on the sampan to try).

    Had a chat with a long time expat UKer (ex British army) at the pond today, and he mentioned that he has an Aerokits fireboat 'kit' still in the box he hasn't started, (you might be able to hear the conversation) and that he was modelling in the 60s in the UK, running diesels in his boats. He was sailing a Kyosho Seawind today (as was the other guy),- and they look like a nice little yacht, and sail well.
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    ๐ŸŽฌ HARTLEY FLARELINE, FIRST CRACK AT TRAILER LAUNCHING.
    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    I decided to risk a salt water trial, as there is no place I can think of with fresh water and a smooth beach or ramp which doesn't involve a 100 mile round trip (most beaches where I am are ocean beaches and others are soft sand/shell. The only lake I can think of is 112km away and I'm not THAT keen. Launching went ok but retrieval was another matter, not helped by an 8mph side wind (looks calm but is windy) Had a number of goes and discovered a few things which need changing, (extra front guide posts and rollers either end of the pads) The rubber resting pads stick like glue so I'll have to make some pop up rollers at the ends.

    The pads hold the boat slightly above the centre rollers to avoid damage and stop it sliding off while shifting it. New front guide posts are needed as the boat only draws about 30mm and goes right over the trailer with it underwater ๐Ÿ˜ฎ(no prop or rudder sticking out,) so it might help locate it when coming in. Jeep had truckloads of power (just fitted a new even lower geared -geared motor -1000rpm/min @ 12v), but unfortunately being only 2x2 (not 4x4) and being half the weight of the boat/trailer combo it couldn't get a grip in the mud, so needed a bit of assistance, (as did the boat getting onto the trailer). Cut out most of the vid with the boat missing the trailer about 10 times, but scored a direct hit once๐Ÿ˜Š. Heaps of fun trying and heaps of washing and CRC when I got home! Going to need some new bearings at some stage, - the ones in it are rubbish and have only lasted for about a few hours running, noisy as anything now, even with gallons of oil. Stainless NMB ones next if I don't change the jet to something else, (another thought on propulsion happening)๐Ÿ’ก
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Hi Peter, I could probably drive the boat on the right stick, and the truck on the left stick of the 9x TX,- I'd just have to sort out the smoke/air/water pump starting, which at present uses the left stick moved right and left to start/stop. The smoke etc doesn't run all the time, (just for starting as a display thing) and can be turned off at any time with Grahams clever little control board. It's not too much of a problem really though,- if I was better organised, I could probably hang one over each shoulder (or clamp them back to back)๐Ÿ˜

    JB
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    2 months ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi JB - Martins eBay one looks like the place to start - add metal diffs and a good body - away you go .
    Was thinking its a pity you are stuck with two transmitters - be nice to only use one like the old Futaba/Graupner F14 set they used for the German Rescue & Daughter boats..........
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    Hi Martin, 'SNAP'๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘ see my comment to Peter (Red) just now. Also, pic is of what we have here in the hobby shop, (better quality,-brushless, metal gears etc,- - but still nowhere near the best, - ready to play) Stupid massively inflated prices!!! (and they go way over $1000 for similar ones to mine (a bit fancier, but don't do much different) Hence why I made my own!

    Mine only cost around $80 to build, and I don't think it looks $1200 cheaper than the other one (at least not externally)๐Ÿ˜lol

    JB
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    Hi Peter, I've seen those on Ali Expr and they are about NZ $40 delivered. I've also seen them here in the hobby shop, (silly prices) and they are really only a kids toy, with the motors on the diffs, (very light construction). I thought about trying one, but the chances of it getting here in one piece would me minimal at best,- would probably arrive as a kitset๐Ÿ˜‚ Probably only suitable for dragging itself around, as the gears in those things are usually only plastic, and non replaceable. Could be a bit of fun to play with, all the same.

    My 'Jeep is 17" long x 8" wide and weighs 1.7kg whereas the Al Expr ones only weigh around 900g, so would be a bit light to tow the boat. Could be a starter for a better model perhaps, with a proper driveline and motor (using the original wheels) and a bit of reinforcing on the frame etc.

    JB
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    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    What a coincident Red.
    I have just been looking at these too
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    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-8-4WD-Remote-Control-RC-Cars-Bi...

    Martin555.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-8-4WD-Remote-Control-RC-Cars-Big-Wheel-Kids-Toy-Car-Monster-Truck-2-4GHz-UK-/133630178182
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    Hi JB - here's a pic of the 4wd for R620 or about $48nz - its about a foot long
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    2 months ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi JB - no problem with the plans but doubt you would be able to cut by hand - grille for instance slots are knife blade width, and a lot of the detail is given by a light cut . When you do get the axles let me know the width and we can go from there - Defenders have the wheels protruding outside the wings (so bear that in mind for the width of the body) - already has a wheel arch extender. Note its the original type Defender - not the version launched this year. Defender would be easier to convert than the Series 1 and would probably be more in keeping with the Flareline.
    As to the 48km - the nearest decent shopping centre is 55km away from us - and if you you need specialist bits & pieces its more like 155km................
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Hi Peter, sounds like it could make an interesting project, but if I start anything else now, I won't be getting on with the real boat repairs, - the 12ft dinghy needs some major surgery on the top rail which I recently noticed has a bit of rot. I'll need to spend a few dollars doing that before winter if possible, and if I start a new model I'll get carried away and do that instead๐Ÿ˜ I might slowly start collecting some parts to make a new 1:10 wagon later in the year perhaps as I'm running out of room for any more big models, and these don't take up a lot of room.

    I might be able to knock up the body you have by hand from a plan or drawing if you have one which might be easier than trying to get things cut, as most of these places (more than 20 in Auckland) are miles away and the majority are specialist outfits doing metal work. One or two of them look ok and can do wood cutting, and one looks quite reasonable pricewise, but he is 48km away. I'll do a bit of research.

    JB
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    2 months ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi JB - bought a whole off road vehicle to convert - very expensive complete with simple 2.4 ghz RC - all of about $33nz . Decided it was too nice to butcher . You could get one of that type as it comes with sprung shocks, good wheels & tyres etc . Only 2wd though the 4wd version is about one and a half times that...........

    As to the body I can send any type file eg dxf dwg, jpg etc - most lasers run on dxf files. We charge R10/minute so Defender body would cost about $20 +material here. Nice thing is you can make it any size you want ................Just takes a little extra work to make it suit the material thickness............
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    Hi Peter, there's certainly some nice stuff to build with on line, but if I got too carried away I'd blow my budget in no time. I might just wear out the bits I've got at the moment, and slowly buy some better bits for it as I find them. I think I've found one which might be worth a go, which has spider gears, which would be better for steering, but worse for towing (don't think anyone's made an LSD for models yet!) Certainly something to play with over the winter.

    I could buy a decent set like the pic, which has hardened steel gears, LH and RH crown-wheels and pinions (for front and back, but no spiders) but the price is rather nice, and how could I mount them on parallel springs. You'd have to buy a splitter box (black one on the right,) drive shafts, trailing arms, shocks etc,- the list goes on and on with these things and they'd end up costing way more than boats to build. Perhaps if I win lotto๐Ÿ˜

    Could get things laser/water cut here no problem, but I'd have to sign my house over to get anything done and wait a year to get it, (they are not really interested in small jobs,- same with engineering jobs) It would be easier and cheaper just to buy a body from the hobby shop or Ali Exp. You'd also have to give them drawings in a format they use on their particular machine, (tried that with printing decals on vinyl once,- wanted to charge me about $8 a letter to draw it up and print it)!

    JB
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Would it come with a ramp Martin๐Ÿ˜? (and beer holders)?

    JB
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Hi Graham, I now have sandpit envy๐Ÿ˜‚

    JB
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    Hi JB - Already have the Bucket & Spade - big ones for the garden unfortunately ............
    Have some small surfboards bought for the grandkids too - but too b cold here in the South Atlantic....
    Herewith pics of the ones already found - See Banggood does have an agent there - makes it easier. The big set is metal - perhaps you should start with the right parts - can always send you drawings of a Series 1 Land Rover body - or the new Defender SWB . Can get them cut on a laser from liteply ...........there must be a service in Kiwiland surely ?????
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    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I like that Graham.
    You could do a second version one with a pool.
    Then he could have a paddle whilst using his boat.LOL!!!

    Martin555.
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    JB,

    "I'll have a sandpit with a bucket and spade next๐Ÿ˜‚"

    I've already succumbed to that temptation! I'll send you the plans if you like ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

    Graham93
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    Hi Peter, no problem getting that type of tyre on Al Exp, just the rim size can be a problem. My problem is the scale of the truck I think, - it's somewhere between 1/10 and 1/14 scale,- bit of an uncommon size, due to it having been just a big non scale kids push and go car. The front axle is a perfect fit but the diffs all seem to be either too wide or too narrow. The diff I have is a copy of a Willtoys diff, but it has no spider gears, which makes steering tricky at times (really good for a drift car). I think I might have found the same diff with spiders so I might buy one and see. I'll keep looking for a matching front andrear diff and something might pop up. One more problem is,- most are made for multi link suspension and coil-over shocks, not leaf springs (had to tie and epoxy mine in place).

    I need something which is 7" to the wheel centres, (1/10 ends up at around 8 1/4") but most will end up 1"too wide or too narrow. There are so many combinations (not to mention wheel offsets which they do not mention) that you could spend forever (and a lot of money and waiting time) trying to guess what will fit. I think with the right surface, it wont be a problem (I took it out on my street the other day, and it hauled the boat up the hill with no problem, (slope is about 25deg). Pics are of the parts I used. Front axle is supposed to be for 1:14 scale and is nicely made, but I can't find the right type of diff to match it. Has to be really strong to take the torque. Has around 1.8kg of pull on carpet before it starts skidding (only takes 300g to move the boat on a hard flat surface) so not too bad.

    It's really all only for a video, but is actually a lot of fun to play with๐Ÿ˜ (I'll have a sandpit with a bucket and spade next๐Ÿ˜‚)

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    2 months ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi Jb - the tyres I was thinking about look like miniature tractor tyres or they have hundreds of rubber studs - rock crawlers seem to use them. Sure you could find a wide enough diff - the 1/18 scale ones are suitable for my purposes but they range up to 1/10 scale . 4wd would make a huge difference - Banggood has an agent in SA so deliveries are OK . Do they have the same in NZ?

    Was going to use a miniature tractor to launch my 7" CC but the internal rechargeable batteries have expired and its too small to use standard ones. Pity because it only needed a small garden pond...........
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Hi Peter, the 'Jeep' has a truckload of torque but it overpowers the grip. Tyres are soft 3"x1-1/4" but it was just the mud it was on. What you probably can't see in the vid-(it's a bit dark) are the wheels spinning, and it doing an impression of a rotary hoe, (pretty scale really๐Ÿ˜). I'd stamped the mud and stones down but it still dug through. I would have used the concrete ramp and it would have been fine, but without brakes, it just wanted to run away backwards, as the ramp is quite steep. The whole outfit weighs nearly 13lbs so I'll have to see if I can make a driveshaft brake, or change the ESC to one with a brake, -(only a cheapo in it for testing at the moment).

    I enjoy playing with this sort of stuff, and the challenge of trying to make it work. I had a look at making it 4x4 but there are no diffs the right width (the rear diff's an example,-sticks out for miles) Almost everything is a different width, as the are mostly copies of individual kit parts and don't match. Re never growing up,- look how many are on this site๐Ÿ˜‚ as long as we are enjoying what we do.

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    2 months ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Good One JB ........... Looks like you had a lot of fun - but as you say tow vehicle looks a little underpowered - has the buggy got the soft off road tyres ?- they do add extra traction - definitely better than the solid type

    Checking Banggood under gears came up with front and rear diff units complete with steering arms quite cheaply (plastic geared) but also found a set of replacement brass gears for the units also reasonably priced - may well pay you to convert to 4wd using a new front axle........

    (Wanted to motorise one of the self designed WW2 Willys Jeeps kits for our Laser, still have a couple unbuilt - and possibly another selfie a Series 1 SWB Land Rover)

    Better half tells me I have never grown up - but are we not allowed a second childhood..........
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    A lot of fun Martin, shame I had to go over to another area to do a video, but you have to go somewhere where there are no people (hard these days) if you don't want people asking questions while you are videoing, (sort of spoils it with people yakking all over it,- even when you have a camera strapped to your noggin and it should be obvious what you are doing!) I managed to get in just after a guy left on a jet ski and finished just as he came back๐Ÿ˜Š

    Not a bad idea- re the TXs,- I should really just operate the truck on the left stick of the boat TX (I use the right stick for throttle and steering for the boat and the left stick to turn the water and smoke on, (but that could possibly be put on another switch). Probably won't really get used enough to worry about it though. The truck TX is used for the other boats as well.

    I'll do some mods to the trailer and give it another go somewhere better if I can. I'm also going to experiment with a different drive system for the boat perhaps, although I do like the jet as it's a bit different (even though it's a bit slow,)๐Ÿ˜€ Re ramming the trailer, - the cheapo ESC won't go into reverse quickly, the all of a sudden it will. I'll be getting a better ESC when I can (Quickrun maybe) or I might change it all to brushless.

    JB
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    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    It looks to me like you had great fun Jb.

    So if the boat dose not go on the Trailer you ram the boat with the trailer LOL!!

    Maybe next time the Truck, trailer and boat go out again how a bout making a board on a lanyard that will hold both transmitters.
    Then you could switch from one TX to another TX with ease.

    Martin555.
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    I'm always modifying Graham๐Ÿ˜, I'm never happy till it works๐Ÿ˜‚

    JB
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    2 months ago by Graham93 ( Captain)
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    Hi JB,

    Really like the launch off the trailer. Looks really good. You just need a bit more practice on the recovery ๐Ÿ™„ and perhaps a few modifications ๐Ÿค”
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    ๐ŸŽฌ HARTLEY FLARELINE, JET MODS 2
    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Tested the new reversing bucket, and it has improved reverse power quite a bit (actually was backing into a strong wind). Bit hard to gauge the reverse steering as there was a 10-15mph wind blowing the boat all over the place, (looks calm but wind funnels through the area from either end at times). Performance hasn't changed with the new grille unfortunately, but the flow looks slightly better. I noticed the reduced brass nozzle I had made was creating a small amount of back pressure, so have re-fitted the original oversized plastic nozzle for the next test.
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Glad to see your humour is still intact Martin๐Ÿ˜‚ -very clever๐Ÿ˜Š

    JB
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    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Jb,
    There was two comments in your last post that i thought summed me up.
    'Always windy and rough', and 'old and knackered'. LOL!!!!

    Martin555.
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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Good to have a break Martin, otherwise you can get a bit stale, and modelling becomes a chore. There are other things in life to do, and modelling should be something to fill in spare time. I had a long break from flying models (did a few racing boats) when I got married the 1st time, then picked it up again later. In between times, I re-did a few full sized boats, in between working overseas and here. Now I have too many models to use and I'm getting out more, rather than breathing balsa dust for hours on end.

    It's getting a bit expensive these days anyhow, and places like HK have gone downhill a lot from 10 yrs ago, and their prices have gone through the roof, (especially shipping costs which are just a rip off.) I have these boats in the yard I've done up which I should be using (or selling) but they are a bit like big models, and are hanging around like the models inside my house, and I don't want to part with them. Sad I know, and they will rot in the yard if I don't get A into G and do something about them. Pain in the butt maintaining them and their trailers as well.

    None of them are worth a huge amount, being old style - it's just the work that I put into them to restore them. I still use them from time to time, but the way the weather is these days (always windy and rough), it's hard to get out, (plus I'm getting old and knackered๐Ÿ˜‚)

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    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,
    Thank you for asking but i am not sure when i will get back to working on them.
    I have been model making most of my life and have decided to have a break from it for a while.
    I know it has been quite a few months since i worked on them but i will get back to them one day.

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    2 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Hi Martin, I usually test my planes in calm weather so you get an idea of the trim. I don't usually worry too much with boats as you can see if they will be successful or not, pretty quickly. First time I've tried a jet but as previously mentioned, it's only at the cheap end of the scale and may need a bit of mucking around to get the most out of it. Main aim is to get it running reasonably at a scale speed, and be able to back the trailer into the water and drive the boat off and on again for a vid, to sort of complete the whole project. After that, it will probably sit on a shelf gathering dust, like most of our models do๐Ÿ˜ Think I must like the making and proving more than the playing๐Ÿ˜€.

    BTW, when are we going to see 'more of the Cottis' ? (and the sub) I was enjoying watching the progress and the amazing detail you were putting into them (as was everyone I'm sure) Hope you are not getting too stuck in the 'chinflu' anti enthusiasm mode, might take your mind off it if you can get back to it๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

    JB
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    2 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,
    A slightly unfair test, maybe you will have to wait for a really calm day.

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    ๐ŸŽฌ Trying a method of producing correct engine sound using BT for the seaplane tender.
    3 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    I purchased a small BT player which has a number of features including recording. It can output using BT to a BT speaker, so I recorded an engine sound (Detroit 4-53 for the seaplane tender) I found, and copied it a number of times using the player and the vid on the computer (paused the recording, ran the video back, started recording again, etc etc) worked reasonably well. Very hard to find a sound which is continuous for a decent length of time, especially sounds of older engines which may not exist or are in museums. Used the BT feature to send the sound to a small BT speaker sitting in the boat.

    Now I need to find out how to get the sound to accelerate and somehow get it into my 'GT Power' engine sound unit files, (the sounds on that are in lots of small WAV files linked to the TX throttle movement (I think they are on an SD card and they just loop where you stop the throttle, and advance or retard to the next file as you move it) A bit of investigation is in order.๐Ÿ˜€
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    3 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Hi Peejay, I have a number of GT Power sound units and a couple are the sound and light versions for cars, (stop/tail lights, indicators, headlights) which have 50+ sounds, from formula 1 cars to diesels (but not much I can use) and the also have provision to select a horn. Haven't tried any of that stuff yet as not needed on the boat, (could probably use the horn) - hence I have a bunch of LEDs (red, white. orange) which plug into the unit still sitting in the boxes, waiting for the right project. Was going to use some for dash indicators etc but couldn't be bothered with all the extra wires!

    JB
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    3 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Hi Peter, the new little BT player can actually record sounds, then you can play them straight to the BT speaker which is quite cool. I can see having a lot of fun with this๐Ÿ˜. Re the bicycle spoke idea, you could link a geared motor to run with your main motor to get the correct lower and top end 'revs',

    JB
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    3 months ago by Graham93 ( Captain)
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    Hi JB,

    Looking forward to HEARING your progress.๐Ÿคฃ

    Graham93
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    3 months ago by Peejay ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Somewhere on my workbench, I have a sound board fo Diesel engine noise to be hooked to the motor so it would vary with speed. It is to go in my trawler, once it stops being โ€˜decorโ€™. I already have a speaker in the boat for the horn.

    It may be the one offered by Harbor Models, who offer it with a 2โ€ or 4โ€
    Speaker. It also includes a horn.
    https://www.harbormodels.com/sounds.html
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    3 months ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Of course you could go back to simple methods JB - use a bit of plastic on a electric motor shaft - have that beat on an object as it rotates - try various objects until you get the right sound - let it speed up and down then record the noise on your smart phone . up to you to get it onto the BT player..............
    Old idea dredged up from from Model Maker days (except for the cellphone - anticipating any inane comments !) - bit similar to the playing card in our bicycle spokes as a kid which turned them into motorbikes............
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    3 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    It is not a good sign if you get no reply, unless Covid is interfering with normal service.

    Martin555.
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    3 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Hi Martin, as I said once before, "great minds think alike"๐Ÿ˜‚.

    I'll have to get hold of the tech guy at GT Power, - they reckon they can do a custom sound if you send them a file, then you can download it to your unit. Tried once before to find out some info on what file they need, but no reply.

    JB
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    3 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,
    I have done similar with an old MP3 player,
    Recorded engine sounds and copied and pasted several times.
    So when i switch on the ship you hear the engine sound, but like you unable to speed it up or slow it down.

    I have also recorded the sound of the ship alongside the jetty and that sounds the same even when the ship is underway, so that is the one i will use for the moment.

    So i look forward to hear about your progress.

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    ๐ŸŽฌ Chesapeake Bay flat bottom Crabbing skiff build
    3 months ago by Aerostar55 ( Leading Seaman)
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    Just finishing up a Chesapeake Bay "flattie" skiff. The bottom flat and is cross planked Here is the video fo the buildhttps://youtu.be/gdeQWLIZjUY
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    2 months ago by Ygagnon ( Master Seaman)
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    Very nice video, instructionnal
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    3 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Captain Ron.
    Congratulations on your promotion.
    Just out of curiosity what are the dimension of the outboard motor ?

    Martin555.
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    3 months ago by Aerostar55 ( Leading Seaman)
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    Those look real nice.
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    3 months ago by Ron ( Captain)
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    No leaks! Fun build
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    3 months ago by Nerys ( Admiral)
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    A lot of flat bottomed boats are built with the bottom planking going across the bottom, I have built three in my time, but they generally need something extra to keep them watertight, usually some form of double planking. The last one I built, quite a big sharpie, I doubled up with 6mm marine ply.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    3 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Aerostar55.
    Nice work altho it dose seen a bit of a long winded way of doing it.
    But if you had done it with a sheet of thin ply it would not have that planked effect.
    Well done.

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    ๐Ÿ“ท Atlantic 85 1/12 scale scratch-built
    3 months ago by EricMB ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    More work on the little boat today #lockdownfun
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    2 months ago by Inkoust ( Midshipman)
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    Great job, health Zdenek๐Ÿ‘
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    3 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Eric.

    Looking good.
    I would be interested to see more photos of this Lifeboat and its crew.

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    ๐ŸŽฌ GRAUPNER OPTIMIST REFITTED, FIRST SAIL IN 22YRS
    3 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Finally got a good day, so raced down to the pond and threw the boat in. 2 problems, 1: battery had run down a bit with all the testing, and the new 18kg digital servo winch needed every bit of 4.8v, so functioned intermittently, meaning not much sail control, 2: jib boom needs a kicking strap to stop it 'skying' and tangling (knew it would happen but wasn't a worry). Apart from that, everything worked perfectly ( cheapo China Futaba knock -off rudder servo still worked fine on the low battery which is a bonus)

    Sailed brilliantly like it did over 40 yrs ago, and as it's set will sail hands off on a reach, being nicely balanced, (even with the crappy jib,- which I had to make,- well actually my mother made for me,- back in 1980 after the original was stolen by a kid at the beach, while my back was turned๐Ÿ˜ ) Funnily enough it was made on the same Bernina I used to sew (horrendously) the jib foot after trimming it for the boom a few days ago.

    A few more things to improve and add, but pleased to have it back on the water. Another crap video, -seems to get blurry once it's been through the movie editor and You tube ) One day santa might bring me a Gopro, ("yeah right"!)
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    3 months ago by roycv ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hi the Graupner yachts are the best, I have a Gracia and she sails very nicely and such a pleasure to watch. She had a small change last year to the servos and works for ever on a 4 AA cell pack 2300mAh. I have a little less sail area and have a sail servo the same size as a standard servo and this copes OK.
    regards Roy
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    3 months ago by Graham93 ( Captain)
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    JB,

    Looks like a perfect day. I find sailing very relaxing and quiet, with no engine/motor noise. Can be quite challenging though, especially when you need to bring it back in to the dock.

    Graham93
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    3 months ago by jbkiwi ( Admiral)
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    Hi Martin, Nice and quiet and very relaxing, and with a decent battery you could run all day for free (almost) - the less you move anything (winch/rudder) the longer you can sail. You could go the length of the pond in the right wind with just a touch of rudder now and then. No shafts etc to worry about.

    JB
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    3 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,

    Did you find that more relaxing than an electrically power boat or just the same.?

    Martin555.
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    ๐ŸŽฌ Fiberglassing your hull
    4 months ago by Brightwork ( Midshipman)
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    I tried to put this up in the How To Articles...but it does not have url upload capability. So here it is. This is a very good video on how to work with fiberglass with odourless resin. It is very simple and should make those who are nervous about this process feel very confident.
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    3 months ago by Ianh ( Commander)
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    This is an excellent Video.
    I can't get Eze Kote is SA but, I can get Z Poxy products.๐Ÿ˜Š
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    4 months ago by Madwelshman ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    That's a good, handy video.
    Thank you for sharing it.

    Will
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    ๐ŸŽฌ "Majestic" - Stern Trawler
    4 months ago by philcaretaker ( Lieutenant)
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    RC Stern Trawler - "Majestic" by Thunder Tiger. Model owned by Buxton Model Boat Club member Adrien.

    For more photos, highlight and click the following link :-

    https://model-boats.com/places/60518
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    ๐ŸŽฌ CHRISTMAS CHEER !
    4 months ago by philcaretaker ( Lieutenant)
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    Just for fun ! (I did this for the local school kids where I was caretaker about 6 years ago).
    Best wishes to all !!โ›„
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: CHRISTMAS CHEER !
    4 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    T'ink dat cool Phil.
    Liking dat man.

    Congrats Rasta Lieutenant.

    Martin555.
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