What a superb collection of different boats you get sailing at Buxton. Thank you for videoing them Phil.

Cheers, Nerys

Thanks I have the instructions & I will try using the truck engine sounds .

Don't know if you have this Garth, ? did you get any instructions with the unit, and are you able to manually change the sounds? Some of the truck sounds may be useful if they are on your unit. If you need the manual calibration and manual setting instructions, let me know.

JB

Hi Garth, here are a couple of vids of your TGY (GT Power) module,- might be useful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khk3_VT2q9g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRTDiltvZVI

JB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khk3_VT2q9g

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRTDiltvZVI

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Thanks JB but I'm kind of nerd when it comes to computer downloading so I just live with the simulated sounds .It would be nice to have a Diesel engine sound because the JimWilder tug was converted in the 60's to diesel .

Hi Garth, if you would like, I could scan the instructions I have and send them to you. pretty sure it's the same unit (had a look on YT) Once you get into it you should see a number of 'dashboards' for adjustments (assuming HK hasn't had a cheaper version made for re branding)

Here's an example of two of the dashboards you should be able to access. Have made a small vid of the dashboards on the operating screen I have, - I'll see if it will load, (won't so I've YT'd it) https://youtu.be/cU9Q_dAewc4

Here's the manufacturers website http://www.gt-rc.com/en/ (type -sound and light in the search box to find it)

JB

https://youtu.be/cU9Q_dAewc4

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Unit comes with a USD cable but no information on downloading sound wed site

Hi Garth, this looks and sounds like it might be the GT Power sound and light system, (HK usual BS re branding) which I have used. I have 4 of these (which are fully programmable) and 2 of the non light system sound units which are not programmable, - (they seem to have the wrong program) - the dashboard comes up but you can't adjust anything,- bit of a pain, but you can manually change the sounds.

The sound and light version is great, as you can adjust engine idle off timer, throttle sensitivity etc, (even a siren if you need one) with the computer. Lots of useless car sounds, but a good number of handy ones (diesels, V8s etc) Great little units. Latest model is BT, set from your phone (haven't seen one working yet)- might be handy.

JB

Ron, I think you've built an excellent representation of the real thing, well done.

Cheers, Nerys

Nice model Ron, pretty good representation 👍 Looks like it's actually done some work.

JB

Location here is Buxton Derbyshire,we sail at the Pavilion Gardens.👍

Nice conversion , where is she sailing?

I just used the information from a book page on the North Rock tug & I to have no idea what normal horsepower & indicated horse power are .😊.

A question on Horsepower; (as I have similar rating on my old Tug);

re; "The original tug was built in 1956 engine was 56 nominal horse power ( 1000 indicated horse power )"

What is the correlation between Nominal Horsepower and Indicated Horsepower?

Thank You.

Tug

Very nice, and nicely demonstrated. Reminds me a lot of my own little Challenge, which is very similar in performance. Tugs are great!

Nice to see a nicely balanced model that moves realisticly

The hull is 24 inch's in length it was a Billings Tug Samson that I converted to the North Rock I posted it on Model tugs & a former crew member remarked on my choose of color the real North Rock was White cabin black hull

Runs very steady. Is it about 30”? Is there any exposed keel? My Ville Class does not, and rolls when under way. We found the full size tug tied to the wharf moved or rocked as we moved along the decks. The skipper said wait till you get her out on the open water, then it really rocks n rolls. Yuk! Not my kinda ride.

Great to be able to take the model on board the real thing. I was lucky that way as well, being able to visit the EX RNZAF 63ft HSL (although converted now to a luxury launch) with my model, and the owner was stoked. He had only seen black and white pics of it during the war, but as I had been on board it in original form (1968 before it was first modified,- this is its' 3rd cabin mod) I had done the model in it's original colours ) Funny how close it looks to the original (just coincidence according to him)

You're lucky the real boat was still original! (and in beautiful condition as well by the looks of it.) Bet they'd love your model mounted inside somewhere!

JB

That's the pool for running model boats in Burlington Ontario Canada. It was closed most of the summer & all the boat guys are happy to be running .We sailed at the Leander Boat club on the Hamilton Harbor in the spring but the green algae started & weeds got real bad so off to Burlington . Your summer is coming & our fall is almost here.

Hi Garth, think I found the pool- Spencers on the waterfront ? If that's the one,-very nice!

JB

Looks great Garth, runs very well. nice pool to sail in by the looks of it,- is it in a park or mall.
The green ferry looks like our old NZR inter island ferry Wahine ? Hoping we can get out soon (lockdown till next week so far) and the Spring has sprung, so getting warmer (hasn't stopped the rain though.

JB

Hi Nerys, you're doing well to do what you are doing still under the circumstances, and you are not just sitting in a wicker chair staring out the window. Your models are great and a credit to you, and you are obviously enjoying them. I'm the same (re - if it looks right.......) as most of my models, (boats and planes) are scratch built or highly modified kits or resurrected and improved bin jobs from other modellers.

The only model boat I've built from a proper plan, was my Vic Smeed MTB, the rest have been from drawings from model magazines. I built a 15ft delta hulled racer in the late 70s using the 'looks right' method, and powered it with a 75hp outboard. Managed to get 50mph out of it, and it handled quite well. Blew the motor up before I could refine it unfortunately. As kid we built 8ft skimmers, powered with a 10hp outboard which were a lot of fun as well.

I've enjoyed restoring 5 small boats (plus a f/glass clinker sailing dinghy for my son) and completely fitting out my Hartley from a shell, but the price of materials is getting prohibitive these days, and approaching the price of a small new car to build anything around 20ft. My 15ft day sailer for example (built 1986) would probably cost around $12,000 to build today complete. Not a lot of home building these days unfortunately due to the cost,- cheaper to buy a second hand boat ready to sail or motor.

I think we are lucky to be able to build from an idea without a plan and have it work, as many people are not as fortunate. Perhaps boating experience gives you an idea of how things should work. We have a top boatbuilding company here who started building fantastic launches, starting with a 'looks right' half model,- taking measurements from it and scaling them up. Has worked well for them since the 50s

Stay Safe.
JB

Hi JB,

I'm afraid my days of building real boats are long past. I have difficulty in finding enough strength to perform even the simplest tasks, Alice has to come to my aid for almost everything these days. I was very pleased that I managed to finish the rigging of my latest barge project a few days ago with only the slightest intervention from her -and that's a model!. Actually the only time I ever built a boat from a plan was when someone gave me a part built Wharram cat. The rest of the time I built on the old adage of if it looks right, it probably is. And, blowing my own trumpet, it always seemed to work for me.

Cheers, Nerys

Hi Nerys, you can still buy the plans from Hartley in NZ, for a number of their boats. There were a lot built in Australia as well as a number of other countries. Their Trailer sailers were some of the most popular ever built. Great little yachts, some epic trips made by some people in them.-

Achievements
Since their introduction, our boats either professional or amateur built, have logged thousands of major achievements in skill and endurance by both craft and skipper. Many have made global circumnavigations and ocean crossings.
Some examples are Atlantic crossing in a ‘Hartley 16’. First woman solo Cape Town to England. First woman solo crossing of the Tasman Sea. Peter Freeman in his home built ‘Hartley 32′, held the monohull single handed round the world non-stop sailing record for boats under 50’ for almost 20 years.


prices of plans in $US Mine was the 19ft 5" Flareline (under power boats) but with a different cabin. Most of their runabouts and launches were designed so that they could be lengthened by adding another frame. People still build the odd Hartley and Pelin designs today, as they are lighter than the modern f/glass boats and easy to build. Here's the plan for my 12ft Pelin dinghy (built in the 70s) and still available. As good as any dinghy today, and super stable.

https://www.pelinplans.co.nz/boat-plans/dinghies/aquarius-no...

https://hartley-boats.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrB-1rLQDuo

JB

https://www.pelinplans.co.nz/boat-plans/dinghies/aquarius-nomad-12-detail

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https://hartley-boats.com/

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Very realistic! A pity the shadow of the giant, and his car, was in the video. 👍

Very impressive jb, looked quite realistic. I like the looks of those Hartley boats and feel that the kits are excellent value (In UK, don't know what they are in NZ).

Nerys

Hi Nerys!! How you doing? The schooner is a customized Robbe “Atlantis”. The owner, Stephen, mad a few mods to make it look more realistic. The other large sailing craft is a racing boat in the Canterbury J class, the two smaller sloops are Micro Magics. Our little club is starting to grow a bit😀

Hi Cash,
Interesting to see what you guys are putting on the water. Now as an old fashioned sailor girl, I must admit to having a liking for that lovely wishbone schooner. She was gorgeous. I wish we could have seen more of the other sailing craft too, there was another smaller schooner that looked interesting as well as a couple of sloops.

Cheers, Nerys.

Thank you Stephen and Doug for helping to get the video fixed. It makes a big difference to the post! Ed

Hi Ed,

The link is fixed. The space in the URL is deliberately added to avoid some web browsers trying to stretch the page width. The gallery works a bit differently to the rest of the site (different code), but I've just enabled the displaying of links.

Thanks
Stephen

Doug, I see the space now, but when I go into edit it isn't there. Even widening the margins on my computer so the full copied and pasted link gets on one line, when I submit the post the space still appears. When I take out the https so the link is shorter, the space appears in a different part of the URL. The link has a line break above and below it. I don't get it! Thanks for helping me try to solve this. Ed

Nerys, of course feel free to use any of these ideas. Ed

Thank you Ed, that all sounds highly complicated at first, but the more times I read it, the more it is understandable, and, as you say, the photos help. I think it is a very clever answer to a long standing problem and I hope I have understood it well enough to use myself when I have the chance. Unless you copyright it!. I am off to read it again.

Cheers, Nerys

Hi Ed,
"I can't seem to load the video which is a shame as it was the best part! Facebook videos loaded correctly in the Rosalind blog

https://www.facebook.com/modelBoatsTrainsPlanes/videos/80092...

Ed, you somehow seem to get a space added to the link, which invalidates it.
This time "Pla nes".
Tip: Always put a web link on a separate line in your post and exactly as it appears in the 'Address box' when you visit that site. No extra characters on the same line. 😉
Cheers, Doug 😎

https://www.facebook.com/modelBoatsTrainsPlanes/videos/800923610583750/

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Nerys, there are just two servos. One for the rudder, in the structure under the tiller. The other is a drum winch servo in the bow, which drives a loop running the length of the boat below decks. The secret is that, unlike conventional layouts where moving the control stick simply pulls the sheet in, in this case the center position for the stick results in the sails all the way out, ie running, and pushing the stick up or down results in pulling the sails in on port or starboard tack. It's incredibly easy to control the boat. Close hauled, just hold the left stick up or down and steer with the right. Tack by swinging both sticks to the other extreme. The mainsheet is attached at the very stern end of this loop. The jib sheets are controlled by two wire push/pull cables attached to the sides of the loop and brought around to exit to the deck at the aft end of the forward cabin top. This makes another loop, running aft, around two pulleys by the transom. The two headsail sheets are attached to this loop. You're probably sorry you asked - it's easier to explain in pictures rather than words! Ed

Pete, we only had to drive down to the float! For longer trips it just fits in the SUV with the seats down and the keel extension removed! Ed

Doug, you got the video to work!!! I've copied this exact link into my post text and I still can't get it to go, yet the other Facebook video I posted worked fine. I just don't get it. Ed

Hi Doug,
For some unknown reason the link works fine for me now. That short video just reinforces what a lovely boat that pilot cutter is and how well she sails.

Cheers, Nerys

Hi Bill,
Ref PMs.
I would reply, or even bother to read them, if I thought it would achieve anything.
The résumes I saw in my mailbox led me to believe that it wouldn't. Just more of the same.
Like you I never liked Ping Pong, I was a cricket and Tenpin Bowling man myself.
League player at both 😉
This is not the place for this debate.
Regards, Doug.

Sorry about that Nerys 😭
Link works every time for me, and others too apparently.
Ask Alice to check out your PC firewall to see if it's blocking Facebook.
Cheers, Doug 😎

Hi Ed,
Looking at your photos again, I was wondering how many servos you have controlling the headsails and how they are organised.

Cheers, Nerys

Hi Doug, nice link, at over 6 foot tall, would be a fun time getting that in the car😁

Cheers, Pete

Nice to see you back Doug, but I couldn't get that link to open.

Nerys

Hi Doug.
Nice to see you back on site.
Perhaps you would like to respond to your PM’s.

Try this folks 🙄
https://www.facebook.com/modelBoatsTrainsPlanes/videos/80092...
Veeery nice Ed 👍
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https://www.facebook.com/modelBoatsTrainsPlanes/videos/800923610583750/

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Thanks Nerys. Just wish the video would run. That was the best part! She sailed better than I even hoped with the new keel, but it comes off quickly when she leaves the water! Not very attractive. Ed

Hi Ed,
You are right what you say about a deep weighted keel being needed on a boat such as your Pilot Cutter. I must say she looks magnificent in your photo. Lovely set of sails.

Nerys

yes i was a bit taken aback when i weighed her, but to my untrained eye she seemed to sit ok in the water and i didn't really want her skipping over the ripples 😂

Must be pretty solid Nick, mine weighs 2.8kg with a 3s 3000mAh LiPo. Ply from memory was only about 1.5mm. Nothing wrong with a bit of weight, makes them run a bit more realistically. The originals looked like they were sinking with the weight of the fuel and 4 big heavy Thornycroft v12s in the back.

JB

hey jb - a hefty 4.5kg!

Looks pretty good to me Nick, nice job👍 What was the final weight ?

JB

'Naiad' is an interesting concept of a very traditional design. I like her lines and it's good to see a good old gaff rigged boat being built today.
Likewise 'Emma', lovely old Bristol Pilot cutter, sailing well. You have some good boats at Buxton.

Nerys