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8 months ago by πΊπΈ pressonreguardless (
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Trailer is beautifulπ
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8 months ago by πΊπΈ pressonreguardless (
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Hi JB,
It's tough doing everything yourself. Seems like you did very well though. ππ Trev ▲
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π¬ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, DAY ON THE RIVER.
8 months ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Thanks PJ, still working on a similar trailer for the vintage runabout, with this sort of thing in mind.
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π¬ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, DAY ON THE RIVER.
8 months ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Hi Trev, stuffed the video up a little bit, as I had made a bracket up to mount the camera on the TX, and I hadn't noticed that it tilted down a bit (notice pic 2) and I missed a bit here and there. Also forgot a few times to turn my body to follow the boat (used to having the camera on my noggin) so I got a few patches of nothing. Fun trying all the same
Hopefully will be better next time, and thinking of Using the Amphitruck (bigger, heavier and 4x4 rear ) to try a launch next time, as the ramp was wet and the jeep was loosing traction, (a lot to ask for it to pull a total of 13lbs up a wet steep rough rampπ It would do it in the dry ok, as I've previously slope tested it at home. You wouldn't believe it, but the next day was total 'carp'- rained all day, no sun at all. JB ▲
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π¬ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, DAY ON THE RIVER.
8 months ago by πΊπΈ Peejay (
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Looks great! Especially on the trailer!
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8 months ago by π¦πΊ stevedownunder (
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Hi JB,
Well done with the launch and recovery, I have enough trouble with one TX. π Love the photos, NZ is such a beautiful part of the world. Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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π¬ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, DAY ON THE RIVER.
8 months ago by πΊπΈ pressonreguardless (
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Very Cool, JBππ
Looks like the real thing. I especially like the Launch Sequenceπππ Trev ▲
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π¬ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW BATTERY, COUPLING AND MOTOR TEST
9 months ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Hi Steve, I've managed to reduce the power to about 50% (which is still a lot) after having a play with the TX settings again, (the ESC was not playing ball with the TX settings). All was fine the previous night, but next day when turned on, the throttle was back to the middle again. Changed the end point setting from left to right side (has 120 each way) zero'd everything and changed the ESC from soft start to auto throttle range, and now seem to have the stick back at the bottom, where it should be for a plane ESC.
None of this is a problem with a plain old std 4/6ch, as there is no fancy stuff hidden in a menu to forget about, and ending up having to hunt for when there's an odd problem. This ESC's been in a crash, so may be dodgy,- time will tell. I'm going to try the coupling again as it was before, but if it slips I'll look at the idea you mentioned (was actually hunting through my spring collection tonight for a suitable tension spring to cut some coils off.) Might have to find some HT wire and wind a special one on the lathe, with small legs to grab with pliers, (like mini radiator hose clips, - very little room to do much). I do have some proper wide ones which came with the tubing, but they are too big. I don't think it will need much to stop it slipping, just needs holding from expanding with use and age,- as silicone does.. If the coupling doesn't work this time, I might even just make a dog clutch, then there definitely won't be a problem, (except maybe noise)π JB ▲
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π¬ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW BATTERY, COUPLING AND MOTOR TEST
9 months ago by π¦πΊ stevedownunder (
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Great work JB,
Sounds like the coupling worked well and acted well as a mechanical fuse. I would try a making a snug fitting collar at each end instead of cable ties, just a thought. Of coarse torque is the killer of drive trains. Looks like she should go well with the greater power. Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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π¬ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW MOTOR AND HD COUPLING
7 months ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Hi Trev, I tried one of these (came with the jet unit) but found it vibrated a ridiculous amount, due to the holes being oversized. Tried it in my cabin cruiser and same thing. Had it reasonably balanced with cable ties but have replaced it with my own coupling and it's pretty much silent. My jet coupling has hung on well now I've cable tied it. A problem I found with the alloy spring couplings, is they are designed for light loads at slow speed (for 3D printers etc) and should run only one direction (with the spring wind, not against it) as if you load it too much against the wind, they can distort and go out of balance, eg, If a spring is RH wound, it's best to run it LH so it's tightening, and vice versa.
I think the best commercial ones for higher speeds would be the type like I've made which Cornwall Model boats sell (2 splined ends and rubber center tube) or with the red plastic universal for lower speeds. I have given up on Chinese stuff as it's just garbage,- they can't drill an accurate hole to save themselves. They obviously don't ream holes, just drill them to size, which is totally useless for anything other than rc cars. I've tried all the universals on Ali Express, and they are all useless. For smooth running you need a precision fit. I bought a few reamers for common motor shaft sizes, and used them to get a good fit with my new couplings, and it makes all the difference. It would be interesting to know what couplings the guys with the big scale powerboats use, as some of those rev insanely and sound really smooth. Maybe some custom US product ? obviously not Chinese ! JB ▲
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7 months ago by πΊπΈ pressonreguardless (
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9 months ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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9 months ago by πΊπΈ Peejay (
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Like your Bluetooth sound system approach. Might be a great way to put some old time piano on my Mt Washington.
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9 months ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Hi Steve, I was surprised it lasted a couple of runs, as there is a big load on it at full power. The main problem with the silicone I found, (even with the plastic tube reinforcement) is that the torque screws the silicone tube, and makes it climb towards the motor and tries to screw itself into the rear bearing. I put a small collar in front of the bearing, but as you can see by the flare in the plastic tube, it had tried to climb over the collar.
I had the same problem with the high speed brushed motor I started with in the boat, and I made brass tube and washer stops for that, (same in the runabout) but it still did the same if you gave it some stick. Hopefully this one will fix it, and if it does, it might be my std coupling on any future models. Re the coupling letting go near the bank, that was only half of it. When I went back to the jetty to grab the launching trolley, (bank was too steep to grab the boat) the wind suddenly changed and the boat started to head out into the pond. I raced back and thought, "crap, I'll have to step in and grab it before I need to swim for it" One of those times when the brain says "that's a really dumb idea mate!" but the body says "stuff you, I know better". So in I stepped, shoes and all, into 2ft of water with a slimy clay bottom, and promptly sat on my A888se up to my waist πππ. Was up in a flash before I was 100% saturated, but covered in clay and rather damp, (and hoping the residents of the apartments over the pond hadn't seen it and had a stroke laughing, - didn't hear any clapping so might have been lucky) Rescued the boat though, which was the important thing. Luckily I had a few old towels with me and managed to dry off a bit and drain the shoes. I had to wash the clothes and have a shower in disinfectant pretty much when I got home, as you don't know what's in those collection ponds (everything from the roads and land run-off etc).π All in all a great day, -what more could you ask for,- a play with the model and a swim on a lovely evening LOL. Probably scared the carp out of the eels.π Did manage to complete the vids of the trip to the pond which I'll post once YTd Think I'll have to build a rescue boat.π JB ▲
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9 months ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Hi Trev, a similar type of coupling is sold by CMB and others, but are just pressed into plastic universals. There was nothing available in such a short size other than the spiral aluminium connector it came with. They are only meant for 3D printers etc and they have a 'handed' spiral cut which is only good for one direction or light loads (with the spiral, not against it,-which could cause distortion under heavy loads and metal fatigue.
The impeller in the jet is doing about 25,000rpm loaded, so needs to be precise. The holes (4mm+5mm) in the ends are reamed to size (not just drilled like Chinese rubbish) and are a light push fit on both shafts and have no movement. Could still be improved by making them from brass, but I'll see how these hold up first. I should probably cable tie them before giving them too much stress. JB ▲
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9 months ago by πΊπΈ pressonreguardless (
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Hi JB,
Looks very realistic on the water. Love the rooster tail! Nice job on the coupling. Too Bad they aren't available Commercially. Trev ▲
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9 months ago by π¦πΊ stevedownunder (
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Hi JB,
Lovely mk3 coupling, looks like a bought one. I am surprised that the mk2 lasted as long as it did. Nice video, lucky the coupling let go near the bank, more than likely if that was me it would have let go in the middle of the pond. π€£ Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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2 years ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Hi Martin, I did see the question but thought I'd wait for the new bits to arrive and I can do a sort of exploded diagram showing what bits go where. There were a number of wires soldered on this one which might have made it confusing. I have a new board(with remote) and a spare remote as well which should be here soon.
Re a larger scale Hartley, I've already had the largest scale version possible, but it wouldn't fit in my modelling room nowπlol Not sure what to do next, as I have a number of projects to try and finish (one includes fitting a Seagull Silver Century motor in a Chrysler 15hp casing) I've just disassembled the old Chrysler motor today ( it did run but parts are impossible to find these days) Plan is to cut the drive end of the crank off and adapt the Seagull drive to it. I've already made an adapter plate for the motor. The idea is to have a proper forward and reverse and neutral and to make it quieter (Seagulls are pretty noisy on a long run) Just a bit of fun!π If the the Seagull doesn't work, a Chinese air cooled 4 stroke might be next. JB ▲
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2 years ago by π¬π§ Martin555 (
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Hi Jb,
RE :- I did order a spare board just in caseπ, but can now use that in something else. Could it be a larger scale Hartley Flareline ? I think you must of missed my question i had asked a little further down. ( a possible Thread/How-To) Martin555. ▲
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π¬ Re: HARTLEY IMPROVEMENTS,- RADIO
2 years ago by π¬π§ Martin555 (
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Fleet Admiral JB,
Nice work. When your bits and pieces arrive would it be possible to do a small Thread or 'How-To' on how to connect up the sound system with photos and how to program it to put the music on. And where all the equipment could be obtained from. This will be something that many members might like to fit in their boats, it will also help new guys to the hobby. Martin555. ▲
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π¬ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, TRAVEL BOX
2 years ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Pretty much Martin,π
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2 years ago by π¬π§ Martin555 (
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Jb,
Dose your plane have the same amount of pieces as that Jigsaw LOL!! Martin555. ▲
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2 years ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Don't worry Martin, it's all well secured and padded, and will only be going on soft sand mostly. I can carry it reasonably easily with the shoulder strap if needs be. I see you haven't lost your sense of humourπ, and yes, the plane now fits nicely in a shoe box, just have to assemble it at the flying site π.
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2 years ago by π¬π§ Martin555 (
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Thank's The only thing about having wheels attached to the box is vibration. Will it shake the contents of the box in to sizes to match your plane. LOL!! Martin555. ▲
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2 years ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Hi Martin, nice to have you back! You are right, one of those electric golf trundlers would be ideal ( a lot of Chinese use them here,-lazy buggers, more money than sense)π Thought I might just use wheels at one end, as I might not be able to get too much in the car with the box in there. I'll see how I get on once I get the opportunity to give it all a try, (rubbish weather at the moment, even rain!!! wooha, )- need it as the ground is like concrete with large cracks a foot deep!
Not sure what's next, (maybe rebuilding the last plane I built, and just test flew for the first time since I built it early last year,) - didn't end wellπ,- lots of bits,- my wing design was flawed, See before and after pics for a laugh. At least the fuselage stayed in one piece and can be re-used. Back to the drawing board π Can't make up my mind on future boats yet, - still thinking. I now have sound in my 'Jeep' towing vehicle, which is another mod, (I seem to be obsessed with adding stuff) (vid) and I'm waiting for a good day to try another video (never satisfied as it's hard to get things spot on by yourself, - operating a video, boat and tow vehicle all at once is a mission in this case!, especially while trying to keep yourself and your shadow out of the shot. All that stuff keeps you busy which is the main point I supposeπ. Don't over-do it trying to catch up all at once, will you?! JB ▲
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2 years ago by π¬π§ Martin555 (
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Hi Jb,
Well i have done a bit of catching up on this project and the amount of experiments and added bits is amazing. Even the transportation case is fantastic. I can see a modified RC Golf trolly being used/attached to this case to save you carrying it. So is it a secret as to what the next project will be ? Martin555. ▲
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2 years ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Now there's an Idea Graham !ππ - perhaps powered by a small 4 stroke mower engine with a centrifugal clutch, 21 speed Roadranger transmission..............π don't get me started lol.
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2 years ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Hi Peter, box is not really flash, just made for the job. It's always a problem moving countries with models. I spent days packing a number of planes, boats and a helicopter back in the late 70s to take them back to NZ from Norfolk Island (only about 500 miles away), and when I got to the customs here in NZ, they made me take them all out (even had to undo a few kits) so they could look inside themπ , no way I could get them packed up again. Had to try and carry a huge mess on a trolley to the waiting car. I'll be interested to see how you get on with yours. Sometimes I've found, that good strong cardboard boxes with polystyrene sheet side packing, and then filled with polystyrene packing chips does the trick, -recently sent 2 helicopters I sold, down south like that, and they arrived in one piece.
Problem is, unless you can take them in a car with you, you don't know how people will treat them. Moved possessions to and from Fiji by ship about 20yrs ago, and had some things clearly marked ''don't stack anything on top-fragile!!" made no difference at all, came flattened anyhow, (luckily not too much damage due to me packing them really solidly, (lots of padding, tape etc) You can never pack well enough for idiots! Wooden crates are the best, but you pay for the weight. Good luck with your move. JB ▲
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2 years ago by ππΊ MouldBuilder (
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Even the box is the Bees Knees. I will be making a box to move Dusseldorf to Hungary. There will be a picture on my retirement thread but I almost feel embarrassed to post it even though I have not made it yet. I am afraid that yours is much nicer than my effort will be.
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2 years ago by ππΊ MouldBuilder (
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Great photos JB. That really looks perfect.
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2 years ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Thanks for the kind comment Steve, it is a trailer boat after all and I thought a stand wouldn't look quite right. I actually towed the original with a Farmall 'A' which I had done up, but there are no scale RC tractors that big, which is a shame as I think it would have looked better. Might find one one day.
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2 years ago by π¦πΊ stevedownunder (
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Great looking setup JB,
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Hi Steve, only one way to find out I guess, although it shouldn't need to go in the water more than up to the rear axles to launch (especially in salt like the first attempt) - would depend on the slope. Going to give it a go on the back path this arvo with the boat on. Even if it got wet, it should be good enough to hold the vehicle and trailer once the boat is launched. I'll test your thought out as well.
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2 years ago by π¦πΊ stevedownunder (
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Ingenious JB,
Will it still work if the cord gets wet? Cheers, Stephen. ▲
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