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    HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    by jbkiwi ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ ( Vice Admiral)
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    ๐Ÿ“ HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    16 hours ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Decided to do a bit on the lighting side for a change and knocked up the riding light for the cabin roof. LED is once again my fav Xmas light LED with the insulation cut off back to the lamp legs. I soldered The Neg wire to the inside of the bottom end of the 4mm od brass tube and the Pos to the leg on the lamp. This was insulated with heat shrink tube,- then the Neg leg was bent in an arc, and when the lamp was pushed back into the tube, it acted as a contact. This makes it simple to replace the lamp as there is only 1 wire to remove and no soldering involved on the tube, plus the lamp is just a push fit.

    The base is just hardwood stock, sanded to shape and painted with chrome paint. Brass tube is cyano'd into a corresponding 4mm hole in the base and the whole thing mounted to the roof with 2 dabs of cyano gel (in case it gets knocked, it should just break away without too much damage)
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    13 hours ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    This is when she starts to come alive Jb,

    Martin555.
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    13 hours ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    It better bloody well suck water after all this when it goes for a dip, or I won't be happy Martin๐Ÿ˜

    JB
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    12 hours ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,

    I have complete faith in your design and building skills and i think she will respond better than you think.


    If not it will still make a really good static model.

    Martin555.
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    9 hours ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    That's what I was thinking Martin๐Ÿ˜‚ Only time will tell๐Ÿ˜

    JB
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    9 hours ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Re,- This is when she starts to come alive Jb,

    Tis nothing but a grain of sand, compared to your Cottismore Xmas tree Martin !
    BTW have you made any progress on that lately ? I miss seeing those great details you were adding, (not to mention the sub)๐Ÿ‘?๐Ÿ‘?๐Ÿ‘?

    JB
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    8 hours ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,

    HMS Cottesmore is putting weight on but it is only dust that is doing it LOL!!

    As for the Sub U552 I have picked up the instructions, had a quick look at the next compartment and then put them down again.

    So i suppose you could class that as progress LOL!!.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ“ HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    2 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Finally received my dummy motor/cooling fan today and just had to have a play๐Ÿ˜. This comes in kit form with around 40 screws for assembly, but no instructions. Took a few hours of mucking around to put it together and test the fans, (2 fans are mounted under the air cleaner in the engine body). There is a way of assembling these step by step as some pieces need to go on in certain directions before others or you can't get the next one on. Quite simple when you have it sorted, but would be a hell of a lot quicker with instructions.

    All in all, the parts fitted exactly and it turned out nicely. There are a couple of options , (distributor with leads or chrome water outlet and corrugated top hose) -I chose the latter due to the lack of room and the need for an engine box. It is the perfect size for this boat and pretending to be a 283 Chev small block, it has replaced the MK3 Zodiac motor in the original๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜ Took a bit of time to cut all the notches etc to allow it to fit with minimum clearance (need some floor to mount the engine box) taking the interior out and replacing it a hundred times to get it right. Now it fits with about 1mm clearance round the exhausts and drive motor.

    This model motor would be ideal in a Riva model or similar and clips onto a 32mm brushed motor. Might purchase another one for a future project along those lines maybe. Fans are 9v, which suck air through the air cleaner, and put out a reasonable flow through the alloy body/heat-sink, and over the motor. I've only run them on 7.5v so far and they're not too bad. I'll see how effective they are once running (if the jet performs as hoped)
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    2 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Love it JB - must have been expensive .........
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    2 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I really really like that Jb.

    Just when i think i have seen it all you go and top it again.
    Your ability to amaze is beyond me.

    Martin555.
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    2 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Re- must have been expensive

    Hi Peter, not too bad for the result actually,- $39 NZ on sale (that's including the new 15% grab and snatch tax recently put on o/seas orders, - plus I put a better shipping method on due to the cost) Now about $45+. You could not make anything close for the price. Plus it is a functional piece, not just a decoration. I'm stoked with it๐Ÿ˜Š

    JB
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    2 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Re, I really really like that Jb.

    Not me Martin but thanks๐Ÿ˜ I'll have to give credit to the clever little oriental gentlemen who designed it. All I did was screw it together and clip it on the motor๐Ÿ˜ Very accurately made which was a surprise, - no modifying needed and it all fitted perfectly together (albeit I was a bit slow putting it together,- it's the lichen on the brain that does it๐Ÿ˜‚) Does look nice though. if I do say so myself๐Ÿ˜Ž More 'different' stuff to come๐Ÿ™Š๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰

    JB
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    2 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Jb,
    RE :- More 'different' stuff to come.

    Now you really are teasing us LOL!!.

    Martin555.
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    2 days ago by Newby7 ( Captain)
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    That looks great.A sound module for a V8 would give a good effect if there was one made.
    Rick
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    2 days ago by MIR ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    What a great job. Best MIR
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    2 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    RE - A sound module for a V8 would give a good effect

    Hi Rick, I have a GT Power unit (basically for cars and trucks) in my MTB, which I might steal as I don't use it much, and that has around 32 different sounds programmed, with a number of V8 sounds. Might look at some of the other car version reviews to see if there is anything better. I have twin units in my ST and HSL which add a bit more interest to the models.

    JB
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    ๐Ÿ“ HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    4 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Making sure the bits fit in the boxes. Hopefully I'll be able to cram everything in, such as on off switches, UBECs etc. Once the floor's screwed down and pumps or whatever are fitted below it, the basic stuff should be easily accessable. RX will be going right up in the bow as usual.
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    ๐Ÿ“ HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    6 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Been having a play with the dash lighting using one of my my favourite Xmas LEDs. Lights up pretty well and still remains nice and clear. Also glued in the rear seat boxes and managed to make both interior complete halves removable (with a lot of complicated delicate chainsawing.)

    Also made a power terminal block for all the necessaries (ESC etc). it's fed from the battery at one end and all the rear terminals are joined with brass rod. Handy screw on terminal blocks bought from from Ali Express
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    6 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,
    The problem with doing interiors like this is it leads to making Canal Barges then Dolls Houses LOL!!!!!!

    Martin555.
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    5 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Martin, you've been reading my mind again,๐Ÿ˜‚- was thinking that very thought (re dolls houses) as I was making the curtain! Could be a good sideline๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜ ???
    JB
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    5 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Jb,
    Some of those Dolls Houses can fetch a fortune.
    That will help with the boat building budget.

    Martin555.
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    5 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    I'll let you start and I'll watch Martin, I'm sure you'll have some great ideas๐Ÿ˜‚ What about a dolls' houseboat๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‚
    JB
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    5 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Jb,
    Maybe a converted MTB LOL!!!!

    Martin555.
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    5 days ago by stevedownunder ( Warrant Officer)
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    Lovely gauges Jbkiwi.
    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    4 days ago by MouldBuilder ( Captain)
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    Love the back lighting jb. How did you stop light leakage. Super job.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    Peter.
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    4 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Rob, Thanks for the comment, (had a bit of practice with planes over the last 40 yrs) the instrument panel is glued down to the cabinet which has a partial back to it. The LED is mounted on a removable insert which places the LED behind the back panel. Seeing that most LEDs emit more light from the ends than the sides, the light is directed more towards the dash. Helm cabinet is just screwed to the partition externally (thought of using magnets but they can be a pain) Other than that, nothing special.

    The dash in the biplane might give you ideas for other projects as I used thin aluminium which was engine turned (hard to see in pic) with hand painted dials (1980 before computers and colour printers), -not that many options back then๐Ÿ˜. Pylon racer dash -2006, with black panel (had recently bought first computer and printer) Life's even easier now!

    JB
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    ๐Ÿ“ HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    8 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Rear seat varnished trims on and insides painted. Made a start on the lights using some ex xmas lights which I bought a swag of cheaply a few years back, at a big hardware store post xmas sale. They are handy as the tops are flat and they are quite compact and the colour's not too bad. I strip the insulating covers off and bend the legs at right angles so they will go straight through to the inside of the cabin. Next I cyano a 1/3 diam piece of black heat shrink on to the LED to create the viewing quadrant, paint the top and bottom with a thick coating of Reeves acrylic black and Bob's yer aunty,-ready to fit. I'll use the white ones for the inside lights and make one up for the stern light. I have some 3mm white LEDs I will use for the riding light on the cabin roof.

    I usually just run my LEDs straight from a 3v source and dim them by adding a resistor as necessary, but I have bought some small V/reg/bucks which are even better, as you can vary the brightness much more easily, and they work perfectly, plus if you need to run big LEDs you have the variable voltage capacity there. I could have used the square/flat LEDs which are easier, (if you can find them) but I'm not paying a rip off price for them (about $6 ea,-- $6 per 100 on Aliexpress!) no thankyou very much!
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    8 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Way to go๐Ÿ‘ ... Bud ๐Ÿ˜ Bud Light in the fridge I assume. Enjoy!
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    PS First bench/locker/cable conduit on my Sea Scout is mahogany! Sniff sniff ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ™„
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    8 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Getting a bit flashy then JB - excuse the pun - -are getting there - came across the 1/12 coke bottles , various cans and only one beer bottle - funny cant remember drinking the rest....... Would look good aboard - pity we live so far apart .
    Needed a blue flashing LED for the Police Launch - but only red or white available here. Bought a so called bright white - turned out to be one of those colour changing ones.
    Have plenty of the little flashing LED candles - used for a few of our laser products - but of course cant find a white one now..........
    Grandsons will have to have multi coloured flashing lamps in the lighthouses they are being given as part of their birthday presents. Dont suppose they will mind.........
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    8 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Ooh err Doug, bit posh wot ?๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Ž

    JB
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    8 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Peter, thanks for the thought ๐Ÿ˜Š. I discovered that a lot of cool scale bits can be bought for 4x4 R/C models (winches, buckets, fire extinguishers, tools etc) so I've ordered some fire extinguishers to have a look at ( 2 types very cheap) I could probably post you a couple of these blue non flashing LEDs if you want. PM me if you do, I'll never use them and I have a number of them. I also have tons of UV LEDs which I was going to use to help attract Guava moths to a pheromone trap (sort of a nice porch light to welcome them.) Buggers are destroying my loquats, plums, peaches etc.

    If you are looking for cheap white LEDs, try those cheap solar garden lights,- they usually have the large 5mm white LEDs which I have used for lighting in a few of my boats. We can get the cheapo lights here, complete with AA NmH batteries (and of course the solar panel which you could adapt to your lighthouses) for a few dollars, and cheaper than 1 LED from the electrical store.

    JB
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    8 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,
    As model makers it is surprising what we will use to get the desired effect.

    I have even used see through coloured sweet wrapper around white led's in the past.

    Martin555.
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    7 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    True Martin, all sorts of inventive stuff used. The curtain material challenge seems to have petered out so I'll add another clue here if anyone's still up for it, the name is like a French pancake. Someone has to get that, any takers?
    JB
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    7 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,
    My wife has joined in with this little guessing game and she said it is crape paper.

    Martin555.
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    7 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Close Martin!
    Must be crรชpe paper then!
    Alors, doit รชtre papier crรชpe !
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    7 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Finally๐Ÿ˜ well done Mrs Martin, it is indeed crepe paper, knew one of the cooks would get it๐Ÿ˜ If anyone is making curtains or similar for a boat, this stuff is great! You can just fold pleats into it (iron it if necessary for a tighter pleat) The good thing is it comes in different colours (you could probably dye it as well) and it has a nice unidirectional pattern. I had some 70s Graupner pleated cloth curtain material left over from my Commodore kit which I used in my Fairacre rebuild, but the crepe is just as good. Best thing is that it's super cheap.๐Ÿ˜Š

    JB
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    7 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Thanks again Doug,
    French is not my best subject neither is spelling LOL!!

    Martin555.
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    6 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi JB - you do realise that crepe paper is not waterproof I hope - take it you varnished it - chances of a bit of water getting on it are quite high - at the least will leave white spots or at the worst a lot of blue stain in your good looking cabin.............
    Blue hanky would work as well - they are usually very fine cotton weave . No danger of colour run either .
    Once again probably teaching my grandmother.............
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    6 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Mercy bowkoo monsewer (Admirable in charge of langwiges) for the clarification๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ just as long as it doesn't have an A in it๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‚
    JB
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    6 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Peter for the thought, but it will never get wet where it is as the cabin is fully enclosed (unless you squirted a hose in the cabin) I could possibly try doping it which would waterproof it, and I have about a sq metre to play with if necessary but I think I'd have to spray it on.
    Just remembered I also have some Helmar art lacquer spray which might be better.
    JB
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    6 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    No worries Martin,
    Just call it 'creepy' paper!๐Ÿ˜
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    11 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Managed to fit the grab rails to the cabin tops and glue down the 'cushions' on the seat/bunk boxes. Front varnished box trims still being processed, (it's a pain as a day between coats means it takes a while) Rails were drilled and 1.5mm pins cyano'd in, then correponding holes measured and drilled in the cabin tops and rails attached with a drop of thick cyano on the pins.
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    10 days ago by Newby7 ( Captain)
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    She will look good on the water.
    Rick
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    12 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Been down today to the Spotlight store and got felt, (should re-phrase that๐Ÿ˜) bought some different coloured felt squares (reminds me of a little Audrey joke,- anyone interested, pm me๐Ÿ˜‰) and made up the seat cushions for the rear seats/bunks and started on the carpets. Both bunks have hinged (aircraft hinges) lids and space will be used for the battery access etc. Have started framing the front bunk and it's a lot of fun making everything in the interior so it comes out in 2 pieces.

    Found some nice orange felt,- just right for the odd life jacket (boat will need them as it's law here,(one for every person๐Ÿ˜) so knocked one up as a trial. There are some trim pieces in the varnishing process at the moment, which go on the front top of the seat boxes. Also I have some 3mm grey felt which is ideal for fitting inside the frames as sound-proofing (keeps a bit of motor noise down) Also finished the grab rails.
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    12 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "... got felt"
    Shades of Peter Seller's version of the Beatles 'A Hard Days Night'!!๐Ÿ˜‰
    "When I'm home .... "!
    Nudge nudge, wink wink say na more๐Ÿ˜‰
    ... and grabbed by the rails as well!๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    My word what's Lockdown done to you folks!!!!
    Like the results though๐Ÿ‘
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    12 days ago by Ianh ( Midshipman)
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    'Got felt'? Your living to close too Aussie๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€
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    12 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Could be a different one to that one Doug๐Ÿ˜ I'm sure Bill Shatner did that one, (or something similar, - I loved his Jarvis Cockers ' 'common people' remake๐Ÿ˜‚ And just for fun
    https://www.famousfix.com/topic/spike-milligan-the-sewers-of... and this classic,

    https://www.famousfix.com/topic/spike-milligan-the-erection

    Or this, which Spike Milligan did a better job of I think, than this guy who wrote it, (Milligan recorded with him for a while in SA from memory.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_UfFe8o2XA


    JB
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    12 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,
    It looks like you are really enjoying this part of your build.
    Keep it up.
    It is looking great.

    Martin555.
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    11 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Re 'Got felt'? Your living to close to Aussie๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€

    Hi Ian,-were you referring to them wearing thick socks in their gumboots to protect their shins?๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ We have a friendly rivalry with our Aussie cuzzies๐Ÿ˜‚ AND, we make a lot of their beer for them๐Ÿ˜ and usually beat them at rugger๐Ÿ˜
    JB
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    8 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLEMncv140s

    The Out-takes!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grixYeb-EJA
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLEMncv140s
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    15 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Doug mentioned curtains so I thought I would humour him by adding one to the portable 'head' area (which as previously mentioned is usually carried for 'mermaids' only๐Ÿ˜, - gentlemen to the transom and leeward!๐Ÿ˜) Also managed to knock up a set of grab rails for the cabin tops (1st coat of stain on.) These were made by using an aluminium pattern with the rail 'blanks' clamped to it, the bulk carved out, and finished with a drum sander in the drill.

    Quite quick and easy to do, especially in basswood. Rails were 2 pieces of 6x1.5mm basswood laminated to get the desired thickness, and to allow for a bit of finish sanding, (didn't want to make them to fragile) Also finished fitting the inner top and bottom cabin window, lower varnished trim pieces.

    Any guesses on the curtain material?
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    15 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,

    Looking good.

    Is it some sort of plastic bag ?

    Martin555.
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    15 days ago by Graham93 ( Commander)
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    Vinyl gloves?
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    15 days ago by robbob ( Vice Admiral)
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    J cloth ?
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    14 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Not a plastic bag Martin๐Ÿ˜€ It's quite useful stuff and comes in different colours and is ideal for this type of use and is cheap! and I just discovered it. Very common.๐Ÿ˜Š
    JB
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    14 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Not gloves Graham, it has a texture to it.
    JB
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    14 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Not J cloth either Rob, you could be surprised at what it is.
    JB
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    14 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Babies nappies LOL!!!
    Perhaps your wife is trying to tell you something.LOL!!!!

    Martin555.
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    14 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I reckon it's a COVID facemask๐Ÿ™Š, good usage JB๐Ÿ‘
    Or have you been choppin' up your girlfriend's nightie? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿค•๐Ÿ˜ญ
    โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’”๐Ÿ’ค!
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    14 days ago by Newby7 ( Captain)
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    Nice job.
    Rick
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    13 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Re - Babies nappies LOL!!!

    My wife lives 15km away Martin so no chance of that๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘and that's still too close๐Ÿ˜‚
    Not nappies, but made in China and seen at parties.
    JB
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    13 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Re - I reckon it's a COVID facemask๐Ÿ™Š, good usage JB๐Ÿ‘

    Can't afford a girlfriend at the moment Doug, spending too much on bloody models๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜ (but the bonus is,- I'm allowed to hang my models all over the house - and to use that famous advertising line,- 'because I'm worth it' and I can't get told off๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š. Not nighties,- but for parties is a clue.
    Something I never thought of until I saw it and thought I'd try it, and it was perfect for this type of application.

    I'm off to the magical Spotlight store to find some 'carpet' for the boat.
    JB
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    13 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "spending too much on bloody models๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜"
    TELL me about it JB๐Ÿ™„
    Re curtain; chiffon, silk scarf ? Ladies garter?๐Ÿ˜ฎ
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    12 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Nay lad, it be not those ladies accoutrements๐Ÿ˜ next hint,- a natural product๐Ÿ˜‰
    JB
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    12 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "made in China .... a natural product"
    Gotta be silk! Weaves nice and fine so ideal for scale models
    Originated in China and the worms were closely guarded against smuggling out of the country - death penalty if you were caught!๐Ÿค” A few brave (or foolhardy) souls managed it though.
    So started the 'Silk Road'.
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    12 days ago by Nerys ( Vice Admiral)
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    'gentlemen to the transom and leeward', reminds me of a sailing barge skipper I knew. He was sailing up Sea Reach, on the Lower Thames, lovely day, wind astern when he felt the need for a No.2. Gave the helm to the mate, then as it was such a pleasant day, squatted on the quarter board to do his business. Sailing along, no hurry, at peace with the world when suddenly a huge cheer went up behind him. It was a P&O liner coming up astern, with all the passengers standing on the forecastle watching him!

    Cheers, Nerys
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    12 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    'gentlemen to the transom and leeward'
    As soon as I read that I had to laugh cos it reminded me of your story Nerys, which you first posted a little while ago!๐Ÿ‘
    Glad to hear you are 'up and running' again๐Ÿ˜€
    My two 'motivation' projects have now arrived as well, Le grand dรฉnouement follows!!๐Ÿ˜‰
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    12 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Great story Nerys, question is, did he casually carry on and just wave (suspect he may have).
    Took a few mates out on this boat (models 100%) one of whom was not familiar with marine ablutions etiquette. It was quite a windy day and he was in need of a No 1, so standing at the transom, pointed the pressure relief device into the breeze, and before we could stop him, he'd worn most of it and washed the rear deck quite efficiently (luckily it had a large lip at the front edge and use of the bilge pump was avoided) Needless to say, the usual tear producing laughter from all of us, followed by the obligatory derogatory comments.๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‚

    When I was a young guy, I occasionally crewed for a local boat builder on his C class yacht. I noticed the boat had no toilet and we would be out for hours, and asked how one managed. He pointed to the bumkin for the backstay and said, "you just sling your a--se over that if you really need to". Needless to say a lot of clenching was required on a long harbour race, to avoid any possible embarrassment, should the nether regions have been required to be exposed to to a very crowded Auckland harbour on racing days.๐Ÿ˜ (pic for the unenlightened)
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    12 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Re- "made in China .... a natural product"

    Getting closer Doug but more for decorative use๐Ÿ˜‰- texture and little people a clue.

    Have covered planes in silk in the past, (70s) was cheap but it's horrendously expensive these days, (if you can find it!) (pylon plane in pic is silk covered balsa doped on,- wings are foam cored, balsa covered and silked 1978), very strong!
    JB
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    12 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Paper Napkins.

    Martin555.
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    8 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    OB JB, You got us!
    What the sky blue pink blazes IS it ?
    Rice paper?
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    8 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "He pointed to the bumkin for the backstay and said, "you just sling your ..."
    Thanks JB๐Ÿ‘
    I'd often wondered why it was called a BUMkin!๐Ÿ˜ฎ
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    17 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    A little bit more work on the dash with the gauges done. They will have a lamp mounted in the cabinet behind to backlight them. Done the samel way I've done aircraft dashes for years, by finding a very clear pic on Google, scaling them down and printing them, then mounting them on the back of a piece of pre applied acetate sheet. I use std A4 paper as it ends up opaque and lends itself well to backlighting. You can actually buy a dash kit for aircraft which has various printed gauges in a range of sizes, and the thin acetate sheet to mount them over. You can also buy ready made dash packs for r/c cars which look very nice.
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    17 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I love the gauges Jb,
    It is these little touches that make all the difference.
    Keep up the good work.

    Martin555.
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    16 days ago by Newby7 ( Captain)
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    Still amazes me the detail some go into.I envy that high ability to do be able to do.
    Rick
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    16 days ago by Rookysailor ( Captain)
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    Very effective jb, but how do you get the different colors on the dials?๐Ÿ˜Š


    Cheers, Pete
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    16 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Don't forget the cooler bag for the beer JB - and the sami's
    Like your idea on the guages - Do you just paint the interior of the cut out to look like a rim - cant quite make it out - seen it done with thin slices of plastic tube as rims - gauges printed on paper & stuck on perspex buttons inlet into the board - but not with the backlight - that would have made a big difference. Given me ideas as there are a few buttons lying around from commercial jobs.........
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    15 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Peter, there is some chrome paint on the inside of the rims, which I applied using a pencil, with a coating of paint on the pointy end as a sort of tapered brush, - worked reasonably well.
    The tube idea sounds interesting, could try that in conjunction with the method I used.
    JB
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    15 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    RE,- Very effective jb, but how do you get the different colors on the dials?

    Hi Pete, the dials are just copied from colour pics of real dials,(pic) and scaled down to the appropriate size, printed on plain paper, (this allows them to be opaque,- photo paper is too solid,- even though the print quality might be better) cut slightly oversize and spot glued to the back of some acetate, which is also spot glued to the back of the panel. Crude but quite effective. Hope that is what you meant?
    JB
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    14 days ago by MouldBuilder ( Captain)
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    The dash really does look effective. Nice job๐Ÿ‘
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    13 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Very nicely done JB๐Ÿ‘
    But yer battery's flat and yer outta gas!๐Ÿค”
    Oil pressure ain't too healthy either!!
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    18 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Decided to have a crack at the boarding ladder Sunday night/early yesterday morning and after many hours and even more choice words, I finally got it looking something like a ladder. Quite tricky making it as it's made from 2.5mm brass rod and the pivot pin is only 1mm which needs pretty accurate drilling (had a couple of goes as my eyesight is not brilliant as I missed the center with the center punch, - even though I filed a flat, - and it drilled off center) Luckily I have a large bench top drill/mill which makes it easier but it was a bit like using a sledge hammer to drive a panel pin๐Ÿ˜

    Bent the rod by drilling a 3mm hole in some alloy bar, holding that in the vice, inserting the rod end in the hole and winding the rod round the bar, cutting the bent leg off and trimming everything to size.

    Made a rough balsa jig to solder all the pre cut rungs and rails together but this was the most frustrating part, as the spacer legs were next to a rung, and when trying to solder the leg on, the rung solder would melt and the rung would move. Ended up using a small pair of pointed vice grips as a heat-sink on the rung which worked quite well. Pivot pins were made from 1mm rod , pre tinned and soldered on the outside rail, (pushed through just proud of the inside of the lower step rails,) then trimmed and filed, Rail deck ends and stand-off rod ends had 3mm washers soldered on for pads (didn't think the stand-offs out very well๐Ÿ˜ด,- should have left a few mm to mount through the transom, as the deck ends are not fixed due to the removable top deck). Might have to drill small rod holes in the ends or hope the good Loc-tite cyano will hold๐Ÿ˜

    Lots and lots of soldering and unsoldering later, the ladder was painted with Dupli-colour chrome epoxy enamel and trimmed with mahogany veneer treads. NEXT๐Ÿ˜€--------------
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    18 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jb,
    That is fantastic work and well worth all the time taken.
    The chrome paint looks good.

    Could you post a photo of the paint container and where it can be purchased from please?

    Martin555.
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    18 days ago by Newby7 ( Captain)
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    Nice work on the ladder.The chrome does look good.
    Rick
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    18 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Martin, thanks for the comment, the one I used is an epoxy enamel, but there may be an acrylic as well, although I haven't seen one. Not sure where you would buy it in the UK. Try searching Dupli colour sales in UK. Maybe Ebay? Walmart sell it and so do Amazon.
    JB
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    18 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Thanks Jb,
    I will have to look around.
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    18 days ago by robbob ( Vice Admiral)
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    A nice bit of brass fabrication there JB ๐Ÿ‘.

    I am gaining a greater appreciation for the trials and tribulations of making railings and the like in brass now that I'm making some for my Pilots Boat.

    The bit in the picture is about two days work ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    The chrome paint finish is very effective too ๐Ÿ˜Ž.
    Gotta get me some of that paint......can you give me some more details on it please ?
    Rob

    EDIT.....I see Martin has beaten me to the question...๐Ÿ˜†
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    18 days ago by MIR ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Great job. I have been dealing with some the same issues. I very much like the chrome look of the letters. How was the paint to work with and did it have the chrome look you wanted.

    MIR
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    Hi JB I found using pins helped with keeping things in place, Plus for cleaning joints up don't us files as they just clog I find it best just to use a craft knife and gently cut fine slivers until the desired contour is achieved.
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    17 days ago by Rookysailor ( Captain)
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    That's a lovely piece of work jb, a master at soldering๐Ÿ‘, and the paint job is pretty good too.๐Ÿ˜Š

    Cheers, Pete
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    17 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Re - Hi JB I found using pins helped with keeping things in place,

    Hi Mike, I remembered you did a nice job of your Fireboat ladder which was a bit more complicated than mine, which was a copy (almost ) of the ladder I fitted to my 100% boat (pic). Unfortunately I put the pivot pin through the rail (where it should have gone on top) which stops the ladder closing fully (original had a D clip on the top section, which flipped over one leg of the bottom section to hold it up, and had an offset bracket. I was half asleep while making it, so the brain wasn't fully engaged๐Ÿ˜ I can always change it if it bothers me enough.

    Agree about the solder carving as I did do a bit of that, but the needle file was quicker and I wasn't worried about the finish, as the ladder was to be painted. I did make a jig with 3mm sq balsa pieces, but being tired, I was getting a bit clumsy and not as steady handed as I should have been for that job๐Ÿ˜ Might give the pins a go on the next one.

    JB
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    17 days ago by Ianh ( Midshipman)
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    Luckily I have a Sieg Mini Mill. Ideal for accurate drilling.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    17 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Re - A nice bit of brass fabrication

    Hi Rob, that's a very nice bit of brass manipulation, I can see why it took you some time. I sometimes think when I'm making model bits that I could knock up a full sized version in 1/2 the time with the right gear.๐Ÿ˜‚
    JB
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    17 days ago by robbob ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Jb.
    Thanks for the compliment, I'm quite pleased with the result too ๐Ÿ˜Š.

    On your ladders did you etch prime the brass before you sprayed the chrome finish or apply it directly ?.
    Rob.
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    16 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Rob, I just sprayed it on directly. I have etch primer but thought if I gave it complete cover it should be fine (wouldn't have hurt though.) Easy enough to touch up with a brush if you mark it.
    JB
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    16 days ago by jbkiwi ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi MIR, paint is no problem to spray and dries quite quickly. Gets quite a nice chrome look,- may last longer with and enamel clear, but I haven't tried that yet. I've used it on the plastic tow ball covers on my cars and it lasts about a year outside in the elements.
    JB
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    16 days ago by robbob ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi JB.
    Thanks for the response.
    I can't find the same paint here in the UK but I've ordered some paint that's as near an equivalent as I can find here.
    I'll do some tests with/without etch primer and with a lacquer too before I do it for real.
    Cheers ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘.
    Rob.
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