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#1333

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Hi Stephen, Doug and Edw. Greetings to all ship modelers on this forum.

I want to appeal to the Court of Appeal! Ahahahaha.

Joke!

The question turned into an excellent discussion point on a topic that we love very much: ships and naval history.
So thank you Stephen.

You will certainly have more sources with which to compare these statements of mine.

There are two topics:

Did Frigates exist in the 18th century?

Was Blackbeard's (Edward Teach) flagship a frigate?

The first question is the one I care about most.
The type of ship called a frigate certainly existed in the 18th and 19th centuries.
In that period almost all war navies, and certainly the most powerful ones, such as the British and French, had double or triple-deck vessels for line deployment.
The frigates did not participate in the line deployment for many reasons. They were wasted for a line deployment, having only one bridge, being less armed and being less protected.
Furthermore, their agility and speed would not have been exploited online.
However, they were very important warships and part of the official lists and deployments.
Even though they had only one deck, they had a strong armament, inferior only to ships of the line.
They were excellent for escort, warning, reconnaissance etc. duties. etc.
Suitable for operating alone or in support of larger ships.
The term frigate disappeared for a long period (certainly absent in the First and Second World Wars) but reappeared in recent times.
This answer indicated in the photo must therefore certainly be eliminated, otherwise we will make bad disclosure.

The second issue is that Blackbeard commanded sloops of war before the Concorde and after its capture he had other sloops of war available in his fleet, but Edward Teach's flagship is the Queen's Anne Revenge. Unequivocally.
She is launched in Bristol as Concorde, she is captured by the French and then captured again by the English thanks to Blackbeard.
It would be interesting to consult the official archives of the English and/or French navy to see how she was registered. A job for professional historians out of our reach.
#1332

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I agree with those who state Blackbeard’s ship was a frigate. After I got the question wrong I when and checked the article I had read about it been found and that and the associated articles all state it was a frigate.
A Sloop of War only had a maximum of 18 guns and fell outside of the Royal Navy rating system which started at 20 guns. Queen Anne’s Revenge had 40 guns and could out gun most ships of that time and therefore a frigate.
But then that is my humble opinion and have been known to be wrong.
Ed
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#1331

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Hi Stephen,
I have to agree with Alessandro!
All my reference sources (and various Nation Geographic and other documentaries) refer to Blackbeard's last command and flagship, Queen Anne's Revenge, former La Concorde, as a 40 Gun Full Rigged Frigate.
He may well have commanded a smaller sloop type vessel before that.

Both terms Sloop of War and Frigate have been used fairly loosely since the 15th century, covering a variety of sizes, sail plans and armaments.
In the Royal Navy of the 18th century a Sloop of War was an unrated ship of up to 18 guns.
Historical records, and recent exploration of the wreck, show that Blackbeard's last command carried 40 guns. 30 of which have been salvaged to date.
As La Concorde the French had used her as a Naval Frigate and she had been converted to a Slave Ship when Blackbeard captured her in 1717.

Just a brief resume. 😉 Many books have been written on the subject!
Cheers, Doug 😎
PS. As Capt. Mike Flynn of HMAS Hammersley (Sea Patrol) said:
"There's nothing I enjoy more than a good throat-ripping debate!"
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
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#1330

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If everyone is in agreement, I'll retrospectively change it to Frigate 😁 but I'll await more feedback. I see most have actually put Galleon so far. We can safely say it's not submarine at least 👍

Stephen
We may not be able to control the wind 🍃 but we can always adjust our sails ⛵ - MBW Admin
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#1329

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Good morning everyone.

I wrote Frigate and I'm still convinced that it's the right answer.

It is very true that the galleon no longer existed in Edward Teach's time.

It is very true that the submarine did not yet exist in Edward Teach's time.

It is absolutely not true that frigates did not exist in Edward Teach's time.

They were fast ships used for escort, patrolling rather than battle in line, in fact they were less armed and less powerful than contemporary vessels.

The Concorde captured by Edward Teach was a frigate.
Whoever built it says so.
She was renamed Queen's Anne Revenge and became Teach's flagship.

On all my sources the Concorde/Queen's Anne Revenge is listed as a Frigate.

The important thing is that you do not pass on the incorrect information that the Frigate was not a ship existing in the 18th century (as was explained in the answer). It really existed.
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#1328

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He’s not my friend. Captain Barnacle for President.😬
I cannot promise to finish one project before starting another. I know, I tried.
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#1324

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Ed Tordahl is on the Subcommittee I believe, he runs with our group. I’ll give him a holler too.
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#1323

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RE Stingray. This is the bloke that makes the semikits..
Mamas Pitsillis. Take a look at his website...
If it don't fit, use a hammer to make it fit....
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#1322

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Wrong, hey ho. You live and learn 😊
#1321

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Re: Stingray. There’s an article in Feb 2023 Model Boats magazine about a Stingray build.
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#1320

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I seem to recall someone doing a mould of her a number of years back. Perhaps someone at The SubCommitee knows. I'll check
#1317

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Cheers Bill, better try to clear the backlog I seem to be accumulating at the moment 😀. However, if anyone does know of a link!!!
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#1315

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There was a company making grp/resin kits for an RC Stingray, a Titan Terror Fish and Agent X Two Zero but I can't find a link.
If it don't fit, use a hammer to make it fit....
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#1313

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Standby for action! Anything can happen in the next half hour!
If it don't fit, use a hammer to make it fit....
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#1312

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I worry a ,and think how come I know the answer to this trivia?

I must be on my way to when the past was better than the present. I think I need some sort of world rescue organization.

Roy
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#1310

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question of the day 15th Nov.
Which of these is a sea area in the shipping forecast?
Is there a precise explanation to be found?
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Salute, Michel-C
if you don't ask, you won't get an answer!
#1309

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Hi Nick yes she is PLAudit and as you say a plan from Model Boats magazine.
I have grown very fond of her. And have adopted her into my family.

She was a 'left over' from an auction.

Regards

Roy
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#1307

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Hi Roy. Is that the PLADIT that was a plan feature in M B magazine years ago?
If it don't fit, use a hammer to make it fit....
#1306

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All 31 sea areas all get an individual name, so somebody on land or aboard a vessel just has to listen out for the relevant forecast they are in or going too and they get the weather forecast they need
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#1305

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Ok I understand now, but being from across the pond not really relevant to me. I was thinking that this was something which had to do with the shipping during WWII. That is why I chose forties!
Chris
#1304

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As a landlubber, I will never understand this question. . ☹️😠☹️😠
Michel-C.
if you don't ask, you won't get an answer!
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#1303

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Shipping forecast

In the forecast, the waters around the British Isles are divided into 31 sea areas, also known as weather areas. The forecast begins by listing areas with gale
The sure way to succeed is, just try one more time
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#1301

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I really don’t understand todays question, but got a lucky guess anyway!
Can some one further explain what this is?😊
Chris
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#1298

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Hi Nick I will have you know that her name is Susie and she is a 'Laaady'.

She first gives her mark of approval then, has a look and then asks to see the plans for herself!
She made her feelings very clear for my Thames tugboat. She had a look and then implied that this would not have been her choice!
Roy
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#1294

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Hi all, I did a count up of those taking part and it comes to 80. Inevitably the single figure entry countries will lead the way, but the UK has the most at 49.

So thanks to the organiser for a little bit of fun every day!
Cheers
Roy
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#1291

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It's been a long day, but managed to stay awake 🤣
#1290

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I was thinking of the soundtrack below.

There was a time when I was young and in my 70's I could dance jive all the way through that song. It is about twice as long as most records. I first heard it as part of the sound track in 'City of Angels' film.
regards
Roy

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=You+Tube+Eric+Clapton+Further+on+up+the+road#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:827765af,vid:h5aVK70P88k,st:0

There was a time when I was young and in my 70's I could dance jive all the way through that song. It is about twice as long as most records. I first heard it as part of the sound track in 'City of Angels' film.
regards
Roy
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#1289

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Ballad of Thunder Road….” He left the road at 90, that’s all there is to say, the Devil got the moonshine and the mountain boy that day…”
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#1288

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Hi Roycv, guess you were referring to good old "slowhand "😀
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#1284

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Royce
What à Beauty!!! À ginger tiger cat.👍👍👍👍

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